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To not want ex involved in uni drop-off?

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stripycats · 30/08/2025 12:07

I am very aware I may be UR here so I would like to know what others think, especially if they have dropped dc off at university and are divorced.

Ds is going somewhere that is a 4 hour round trip away. He lives with me around 80% of the time and ex no longer drives due to a medical issue. Therefore, it has been a non-issue that I will be dropping off ds and for me it will be quite a challenging day. Obviously I'm immensely proud of ds and happy and excited for him that he's going to his first choice university and starting the next phase of his life. But this is tinged with sadness that he is leaving and I am going to miss him terribly.

We were discussing the plans yesterday and he mentioned his dad perhaps wanting to come and be involved. This completely took me aback as it had not occurred to me that he would be. Drop offs are, from what I've read, quite hectic (it's a city location) with not much time for hanging around. On a practical level I don't think it will work to be arranging to meet ex and having to factor that in. Moreover, I am absolutely not prepared to take him in the car. We are civil when required but barely speak. He has behaved in ways that are very hard for me to forgive, the details of which ds is of course unaware. But the thought of having him in the car on this difficult day is unbearable to me, especially on the way back when I would be otherwise on my own and am planning a good cry! Graduations, weddings etc - no issue at all and completely different. I will sit with him if needed, or not, and there will be no issue. But this is different.

I told ds I didn't think it would work him being there and he said maybe not but it wasn't up to me, which is fair enough to an extent. He said he isn't going to bring it up to his dad, but if his dad asks he isn't going to tell him he can't come. I get that but I honestly don't see the point. However, I didn't press that but did say I wasn't giving him a lift. Ds seemed fine with that and there are good train connections between the two places and ex travels by train a lot, so it should be fine. But I am just so worried on the day he will say something about the trains being a nightmare or there will be engineering works and I will end up having to offer a lift back. Without saying he categorically can't come I can't prevent that from happening.

So AIBU to say he can't come?

OP posts:
MrsJeanLuc · 31/08/2025 21:55

stripycats · 31/08/2025 16:46

I know I'm spiralling again, but I have a vision of us being part-way through unloading the car and ex ringing ds to say he's just arrived at the railway station and when can we meet. Then ds will get super-stressed as he won't want to let his dad down and won't want to say we're in the middle of it you'll need to wait. Then if gets a taxi or bus to the halls and we're done by then... This is what I mean about it not being practical for him to be there.

Good god woman, get a grip! You're actively looking for problems.

Let your ex make his own travel arrangements. If/when he arrives at the station, ds texts him your location and he gets a taxi/Uber. If in the meantime you move on, text him the new location.

As for the far-fetched rubbish about his train being cancelled/delayed ... really?!? How likely is that? And if it does happen it's not your problem. You can make up an excuse if you want ("there's no room", "I'm going somewhere else first"), or just say "you're not welcome in my car".

As others have said, stop making this day about you. You need to focus on your son, who will (I hope) be excited and not at all sad.

allmymonkeys · 31/08/2025 21:43

On the strict understanding that ex takes responsibility for his own travel, it would be unreasonable to say he can't come. Be prepared to harden your nose if those last minute excuses come up, that's all.

InterIgnis · 31/08/2025 21:35

Americano75 · 31/08/2025 21:30

Prioritised? Not necessarily. Basic consideration and empathy shouldn't be beyond anyone.

Including the parent who can have basic consideration and empathy for their child on their child’s day.

Americano75 · 31/08/2025 21:30

InterIgnis · 31/08/2025 21:26

Sure, but those feelings aren’t always going to be prioritized on someone else’s, specifically their chid’s, day.

Prioritised? Not necessarily. Basic consideration and empathy shouldn't be beyond anyone.

Saladbrains · 31/08/2025 21:27

stripycats · 31/08/2025 19:34

I’m sad for the pupils you teach for the example you blindly and clearly un-self-awarely show them.

Gosh, I was starting to reflect on myself there and then you came out with this, which is utterly ridiculous @Saladbrains, and just made me laugh. You must be projecting to be so sure that that my sons have 'been deeply affected' by my bitterness - you have no idea how hard I have worked to ensure they have been able to maintain a relationship with their dad, including keeping to myself the worst of his actions. There have been times when both dc have been very reluctant to see ex and I did my best to support the relationship then, putting in more work than he ever has.

He has found them easier the older they have got, which is good, and they have a decent enough relationship with him now. I am still convinced it's ex's feelings on the matter ds is most concerned with, rather than mine or, more importantly, his own.

Also, I notice more and more these days that women on here are blamed for not knowing that the 'man they chose to have children with' would turn out to be a less than ideal father, partner, or human being. The little dig about that did not go unnoticed, in yours and some other posters' comments. I chose to have children with him but that doesn't mean I had a crystal ball and now have to put up with anything he throws my way.

The original post about whether to offer Dad a lift or not has been entirely concocted in your head.

You’ve made it clear that Dad hasn’t thrown anything your way on the subject you posted about.

If Dad asks, and it is merely conjecture that he may ask, just say “no”. End of story.

The rest is all of your own dramatisation.

How do you not see that?

How about giving this much time and attention to the balance you need to show your sons?

Why not post here asking for guidance on that, instead of the time wasted on posting about your imagined problem?

InterIgnis · 31/08/2025 21:26

Americano75 · 31/08/2025 21:21

That's nice. But sometimes it's nice to remember that our parents are only human too, with real, valid feelings no?

Not wanting to be in the same room as someone who abused you doesn't make you a bad parent.

Sure, but those feelings aren’t always going to be prioritized on someone else’s, specifically their chid’s, day.

Americano75 · 31/08/2025 21:21

Praying4Peace · 31/08/2025 21:03

But she did it for the love and sake of her children, irrespective of their age

That's nice. But sometimes it's nice to remember that our parents are only human too, with real, valid feelings no?

Not wanting to be in the same room as someone who abused you doesn't make you a bad parent.

JayJayj · 31/08/2025 21:18

greengreyblue · 31/08/2025 19:56

And that’s what most people have said. She is NOT being unreasonable at all. It’s not all about what the son wants actually. Her feeling are just as valid.

If the son wants his dad there, on what is a big event for him, then that’s absolutely up to him. And so on this point no op’s feelings do not really come into account. Unless there is DV/abuse and that’s the reason then the sin should know these things to be aware why she can’t be around him.

The son or dad just can’t expect OP to be the one taking him to and from the city. But it doesn’t sound like that has been proposed yet she is just wanting to make sure that’s not an option.

Overthewaytwice · 31/08/2025 21:12

stripycats · 31/08/2025 19:59

That's great @Overthewaytwice , but I think it a bit of a shame your stepmum didn't have the sensitivity not to attend the drop-off. Like I've said, other events are different. Both she and your dad could have considered how your mum would feel.

She has been my stepmum since I was 5. I love her and wanted her there. My mum wouldn't have wanted anyone to prioritise her feelings over mine (in fact, they probably did check with her. I know my stepmum was careful to ask permission for things to do with my wedding and after my first child was born)

She was wrong for having an affair with a married man (though more of the blame lies with my dad, naturally) but she was a really good step mum. Life isn't black and white.

Kindornothing · 31/08/2025 21:09

tough situation. It’s not unreasonable but big picture.

Your kid asked so clearly wants dad there for a big milestone.

can you suck it up for one day for your kid?

and I know you have probably been sucking it up for more times than you can remember so either way good luck x

Jofish26 · 31/08/2025 21:04

You are not being unreasonable.Happily divorced with both ds's with me 80% of the time.Have dropped both of them off when the time came on my own
You honestly won't have room in the car on the way there and when you do get there it is quite hectic.Getting everything out,unpacked and set up for them.Depending on the university the social committee or whatever may come and gather them up and take them for some orientation so there usually isn't a chance to linger.
After the initially drop off my exh did sometimes collect during term time or drop back off again.He also never did the big pick up and clear out at the end of the year because no space in care for 3 people and you just want to get packed and get gone.

Jofish26 · 31/08/2025 21:04

You are not being unreasonable.Happily divorced with both ds's with me 80% of the time.Have dropped both of them off when the time came on my own
You honestly won't have room in the car on the way there and when you do get there it is quite hectic.Getting everything out,unpacked and set up for them.Depending on the university the social committee or whatever may come and gather them up and take them for some orientation so there usually isn't a chance to linger.
After the initially drop off my exh did sometimes collect during term time or drop back off again.He also never did the big pick up and clear out at the end of the year because no space in care for 3 people and you just want to get packed and get gone.

Praying4Peace · 31/08/2025 21:03

Americano75 · 31/08/2025 20:08

I feel quite sorry for your mum. That can't have been much fun for her.

But she did it for the love and sake of her children, irrespective of their age

Praying4Peace · 31/08/2025 21:00

greengreyblue · 31/08/2025 19:58

Oh your mum would’ve been uncomfortable for sure but she no doubt swallowed it for you. This is not ok.

Disagree entirely

TwinklySquid · 31/08/2025 20:57

Some people have been very unkind here. We don’t know the full story of why OP feels as she does.

I grew up with parents who couldn’t be in the same room as each other. And yes, it did upset me at the time, but once I knew the full story( and going through a similar break up myself) I understood it.

My ex has done some truly unforgivable things. Some of which I wish I had gone to the police over. I have chosen to remain on good terms with him for my daughter. It’s given me less stress but only because I have been through therapy and while I won’t forgive, I have chosen to move on. The key part here is choice. My daughter is convinced we are still a couple (despite having separate houses and living nearly 200 miles apart) because we get on so well. That took years to get to that point.

You never have to set yourself on fire to keep other people warm, OP. You can put in boundaries.

I would tell your son you are offering him a lift and to help unpack. You don’t have a problem with your ex being there, as he is your father, but you will not be offering lifts back and forth.

Your son is an adult now and needs to make adult choices. If that means he throws a wobbly and refuses to let you drive, then okay. Find an alternative way up there. Yes, it will be sad but you are also entitled to peace.

Eschra · 31/08/2025 20:54

stripycats · 30/08/2025 12:13

Yes, I thought of the space thing but it doesn't help on the way back if he puts me on the spot saying his train is a bus replacement etc. Not sure that he would but still.

Is it up to ds though @CaptainMyCaptain ? I get wanting him there but do I have to endure a nighmareish 2 hour long journey and have that possibility hanging over me for the sake of a drop off? If it was a big occasion like a graduation, yes, I would. But I don't think this is the same. But maybe I'm wrong.

First day at Uni and independence is just as big a deal as the daughter of graduation, getting married, first child etc. You got divorced fine but that didn't stop you both from have to co-parent till the day one or both of you die. 'Cause that is how long parenting lasts. It even lasts through grandchildxevents, key birthdays in adulthood, engagements, first housewarming. You're going to have to learn to develop being around each other civilly for hours or full days at a time. I. afraid that what you signed up for when you had a child. If you can't cope with each other in a car then just say that.
It's not your child's job to know why you can't exist together. Honestly emotionally kids aren't adult till mid 20's. it's not their job to deal with the relationship (even historic) relationship issues of their parents at any age TBH.

greengreyblue · 31/08/2025 20:54

I have a friend that had an awful husband and several chn with him When she left him her chn were young and she didn’t want them to know what he had done to her. She has to put up with them inviting him to family occasions but she won’t explain because she doesn’t want to spoil their image of him. She makes herself ill with the stuff she has to just swallow for the sake of them. It is not ok.

aurynne · 31/08/2025 20:54

You cannot put the blame in your DS that you are not strong enough to just say "no" to a lift, no excuse needed.

Hid dad has the right, and apparently the will, to be there. Making chitchat with him is not your responsibility. How he gets there and back is not your responsibility. But it IS your responsibility to say a clear NO if he asks to be given a lift. So pull on your big girl pants and stop whining and putting pressure on your DS. He wants both of you there.

Bowies · 31/08/2025 20:53

stripycats · 31/08/2025 20:06

I'm not comfortable with all the insistence on this thread, crystallised by @Overthewaytwice , that this day has NOTHING to do with parents AT ALL. Obviously it is a big day all round but all this, 'it's not about you,' is a bit off, imo. It is a bit about parents who live with their dc full-time when they leave home and go on to the next stage. It absolutely doesn't make manipulation or emotional blackmail ok, and the child's feelings are very important, but I think a bit of consideration for others is important too.

@Overthewaytwice did acknowledge it would be an emotional day for you OP.

It’s the same on all these occasions, though, what about DC birthday? It’s the day we gave birth to them!

It doesn’t change what your DS said and the sentiment of “it’s not up to you”, because it’s his milestone.

PippEmma · 31/08/2025 20:52

With both my sons there is no way I could fit a third person in the car, it was filled to the rafters with all the stuff they couldn't live without.
The actual drop off was a queue of cars dropping off, I stayed in the car whilst my son emptied the car.
A total of 25 minutes!!!

TheMauveBeaker · 31/08/2025 20:50

YANBU. There’s no way I’d tolerate my ex-H in my car for even a minute let alone a journey of that length. If he wants to go he has to make his own way there and back. You just need to be firm about that and ensure your DS understands that you will not accommodate his father in your car for any part of the journey there or back, regardless of any transport issues that may arise.

FitatFifty · 31/08/2025 20:48

To me, Ex is wasting his time. It’s a long way to go when the entire purpose is to unpack and leave. I’ve had lots of friends where there is zero hanging about. My own uni accommodation was out of town so there was a lot less hurry, now closed the equivalent is right in town and you need to be in and out asap.

He would be much much better waiting a few weeks, booking a hotel in the city, taking him out for dinner. Beneficial to everyone.

My friend had a useless ex, never helped with activities or taking the kids anywhere, bare minimum. Then eldest goes to uni and he wanted to be the one to take him, she put her foot down and said no, she wanted to make sure it was done properly/he had everything he needed.

Marieb19 · 31/08/2025 20:48

Having dropped off 3 sons at university, I can tell you they were more keen on meeting their new flat mates, speaking to the club and group reps etc and really didn't want us hanging around.
You absolutely do not have to offer your ex a lift. If your ex wants to be there, that is for him to organise but i fear it will be a wasted journey and he would be better waiting a month, when your son is settled in and would appreciate a free meal.

AnAlpacaForChristmasPleaseSanta · 31/08/2025 20:40

Americano75 · 31/08/2025 20:32

Just with regards to the lift and how his mother, who's done 80% of his upbringing might feel being in such proximity to a man who treated her so badly, whether that's his father or not. A bit of awareness and thought wouldn't go amiss.

I've never shared the finer details with my eldest about what a horror her father was to be married to, but she understands enough to be mindful of my feelings.

Ok thanks.
I totally agree with you about the lift but it still seems to be a bit of a non issue because OPs ds has seemingly respected her wishes and given no indication that he's going to ask OP to provide one to his father.

LucyMonth · 31/08/2025 20:38

So your son hasn’t asked his Dad to come.

His Dad hasn’t asked to come.

If he did come there’s straightforward and reliable train links and he uses the train all the time.

But you’re panicking that he’s going to manufacture an excuse to get a life home with you? For a trip he hasn’t asked to come on and hasn’t been asked to come on? And you think you should tell him he can’t come on this trip he isn’t coming on?

Yes YABU.

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