Immigrants but legal ones?

I agree with @ladybirdsanchez this is far from a UK issue. Having lived in multiple countries I've seen similar almost everywhere. In one country I worked in relocation, when taking a client to a ministry dept and handing over a Dutch passport he was asked "where are you really from". The very UK centric attitude is also quite discriminatory to Brits who live outside the UK. There are a whole host of issues when not actually UK resident too and don't get me started on the need for recent UK work experience after returning from working all over the world.

I m British now, nobody can kick me out,

Oh yes they can. If you have a second nationality, they can absolutely deport you if they think you've committed a crime or are a danger to national security. And in the current climate, being Muslim and a bit brown might well be enough - the previous government tried to deport someone on those grounds - when all he'd done was committed tax fraud. Now that is of course a crime, but it doesn't make someone a threat to national security.

All it takes is a little bit of racism.

Im also an immigrant. Ive worked for 20 years in the nhs. I have volunteered, paid my taxes etc. A plumber who came to my house was complaining about immigrants. I told him should I go back to my home country? Seeing as I stole someones job working on a medical ward in the nhs. He looked astonished because I 'look English'. I told him I had settled status but assume he would want me to go back to where I am from? He didnt know what to say because he couldnt stereotype me as an 'immigrant'.

Racists are breathtakingly racist. Your legality has nothing to do with whether or not they think you should be here or their problem with you. They don't care if your family have been in England (for example) for longer than theirs.

But unfortunately as always in any similar scenarios, all we see or hear are the small but vocal minority and the silent majority rarely speak out. And that's the problem. It's the same with a small minority that commit acts if terrorism in the name of faith, the silent majority always keep schtum. The same thing is happening now. We know it's only a small minority but in Epping for example where I live, initially barely any pro migration turned out. It took weeks of protests for them to finally turn up. All we saw here week after week was the anti brigade. It's all we see on the news. Perhaps if the silent majority stopped remaining silent people wouldn't be living in fear of what's happening.

So follow the rules, integrate and pay tax, but you will still never be one of us!

We don't have enough tax payers in this country. A huge proportion of the young are out of work and claiming benefits. Our population is aging.
But hey,drive away and antagonise tax payers.

@Ihavetoask Also I work with a lot of immigrants from many different countries and backgrounds. All of them speak excellent English and generally are higher rate taxpayers.

But I assume you only mean that shit when talking about some immigrants don't you - for example one of our senior managers in a white Australian immigrant.

So it doesn't matter why she came here, she shouldn't have come?

I'm not the OP, just in similar circumstances.

I was about to, in 2016, but when Brexit started happening I decided I'm not paying over £1,000 for the citizenship. You also have to study for the test, and I was not willing to do that anymore given the climate.

Farage is this you?

@Ihavetoask blimey- that is breathtakingly racist. You do know that plenty of peole who are third and fourth generarion British born and longer "worship a different god" or wear religious symbols like a hijab or kippah?

My maternal Jewish ancestors came here in the nineteeth century and my paternal huguenot ancestors a lot longer back.

What are the exact skills a person should have to allow them to move to another country?
Or do you feel that people born in the UK should never live anywhere else?

Is this a serious comment? Should all non white British people be asking themselves whether they are giving or taking something from the UK and make an evaluation as to whether they should be here?

I am non British, moved here as a young child, went to school here (private education - no “taking” from the system) and work, paying top rate tax, and have done for several decades.

Should I be asking myself whether my skills would be better used in my country of birth? Can I use the NHS? Should I draw a pension? Could I be disadvantaging a British person somehow?

How utterly ridiculous. My point is, these nice clean lines between who should be here and who shouldn’t, who is an asset, who is a drain - these lines can’t be drawn.

I hear you.
I also no longer feel safe.
The funniest (saddest?) thing is it's the yobs that make me feel unsafe. People who have done nothing but scrounge and be thuggish and antisocial all their lives. All those "protests" are full of mainly yobs.

I think that many of those who voted for Brexit did not expect the result that came about, felt that by voting for it and therefore the result not being a massive Remain vote, they in a sense were making a free protest.

I agree with you that for many people there are 'good' and 'bad' migrants. There has been much more racism towards people of Pakistani heritage than of Indian heritage, it seems to me.

I don't understand why you'd think being here legally would change the minds of someone who is anti-immigration. The issue is that you are from a different culture that may worship a different God/follow a different religion, have different cultural values and will use resources that these types believe British people should have sole access to.

You may be here legally, but for example, your child may still require extra resources from their school simply because they speak a different language or have had adverse experiences that led you all to come here. Your child may get a place in a school above a British child who had it down as first choice. Your sons might look down on women in a way that British men do not (or something). You might wear a hijab. You will either claim benefits that British tax payers fund, or you will take jobs meant for Brits.

These are the issues that people have with immigration. Your legality is irrelevant.

Right. Everybody not from Europe is not a homogenous group either.
Not all brown people are the same.

OP did you come over 2000-2010 time? You must’ve experienced a lot of xenophobia at that time, British people weren’t welcoming back then IME. The rhetoric was the same then- the poles coming over taking all the trades jobs, polish supermarkets everywhere, polish beer cans all over the floor. 20 years on when the Eastern European diaspora are fully integrated and second generation The Brits have transferred their hate to another group.

my parents were Irish immigrants and it was the same in the 50s too.

not trying to make you feel worse but the xenophobia has always been open

I am sorry to break it to you but “foreigners” are not a single homogeneous group
That you deny the existence of cultural diversity in the name of multiculturalism is a weird one, which is why it’s not really working

No obviously I wouldn’t. But isn’t it considered a ‘bad’ thing when our doctors leave to go to say Australia?
I just think that possibly it’s not fair if say we poach health care workers from abroad. Don’t people in other countries need their help?

I’m so sorry you feel like this.

My ds is British. Me and his father are British.

He wasn’t born in Britain.

He’s has people tell him to do back to where he was born. Some people are cunts.

You would stop them from leaving the UK if they had the skills you deem important?

Probably would if they posted on a public forum asking for opinions.

Good immigrant= European.
Bad immigrant= Others from dark continents.

Why did Brexshit happen, then?