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Tiktakmam · 30/08/2025 08:36

I’ve been living in the UK for 16 years, have two children, and work full-time. I consider myself integrated, living according to British values, and respecting this country. I look after myself and my home, and I try to contribute positively to the community.

Yet, many of us — especially from Eastern Europe — don’t feel entirely safe with the ongoing issues around illegal migrant boats. Even though we are legal residents, I’ve noticed growing dissatisfaction from some neighbours. When I mention that I’m from Eastern Europe, I often hear comments like, “Of course you are…” — basically implying I’m not British.

This makes me feel like I’ve somehow “brought these boats” here, as if I’m just another part of the immigrant problem. Seeing flags and attitudes that suggest “immigrants go home” is disheartening.

I also feel somewhat less confident around British people, especially in areas with mostly locals and fewer immigrants. For example, when I travel to campsites or smaller towns, I sometimes feel looked at as untrustworthy. Luckily, in London I feel much less like this.

Post-Brexit, it feels like the country has changed in ways that make life less secure, not just for immigrants but for everyone. It’s heartbreaking that all migrants, legal or not, are often dropped into one pot and judged as a single group.

I keep wondering — after so many years of people from other countries contributing to making the UK a brighter, more vibrant place, why does it feel like the country has been going downhill over time?

I feel so heartbroken, because I understand that the UK will never truly be my home, as I was not born here. Yet it hurts to realize that, with every passing year, it feels more and more like I will never be fully welcome.

Why has it gone so wrong on a broader scale? How can we have a healthier, safer society for everyone, while respecting the law and supporting integration?

I hope we can have a conversation about this that goes beyond fear and politics, and focuses on community, fairness, and safety for all residents.
Im just curious, in this era of migrant boats and heightened tension around immigration, how do you perceive or feel about other immigrants, even those who are legal residents? Does this climate affect the way you interact with them or how you feel about other immigrants, especially in less multicultural towns? What does your family of friends say?

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AlertEagle · 30/08/2025 10:08

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Ahhh the victim mentality.
Theres a huge amount of british people who have never worked( and i dont mean the ones with disabilities) i mean the one fully capable of work. They complain all they and want more money, they dont want to go and do cleaners job or a carers job but complain immigrants are stealing their jobs. You want the country to benefit from high skilled workers but who will do the low skilled jobs? Surely if we remove the low skilled workers who are here legally and how ilr we are left with our own british people who refuse to do this jobs, how would you get them to work. This is how we got in this situation in first place

fateisdestined2025 · 30/08/2025 10:08

Wait till the kids go back to school the racists will be back at home

RedMaker · 30/08/2025 10:08

It's very simple: there's too many.

No people in history have ever consented or accepted becoming a minority in their own country and losing the dominant status in their own land.

That's happened already in areas of Britain.

"For things to remain the same, everything must change."

It doesn't matter now whether the government ignores the will of the people and tinkers with superficial changes within the existing - failed - system or decides to act. Huge changes are coming.

The only question is whether they'll come as a result of political action or violence. But the UK is now an extremely explosive mixture.

Ihavetoask · 30/08/2025 10:07

Truetoself · 30/08/2025 10:05

What is a British person? Is being white a pre requisite? And if it is, how many generations of white people born in UK does the family history need to go back to?

For racists, yes being white is a pretty requisite and it has to be for as many generations as possible unless it was to do with the sexual exploitation of slaves.

banananas1999 · 30/08/2025 10:07

inkognitha · 30/08/2025 09:00

Why haven’t you applied for citizenship?

What differende does that make, to hardcore british who hate inmigrants opening our mouth with an accent is enough reason to make xenophobic comments- if we all had british citizenship further insults how its handed out not that it costs 3k

inkognitha · 30/08/2025 10:06

ilovesooty · 30/08/2025 10:02

I think you might have misinterpreted that post.

How so?

Truetoself · 30/08/2025 10:05

What is a British person? Is being white a pre requisite? And if it is, how many generations of white people born in UK does the family history need to go back to?

Ihavetoask · 30/08/2025 10:05

pointythings · 30/08/2025 09:58

And here they are!

You'll be pleased to hear that I've taken many a British job. Because I was the best candidate for those jobs. If Brits can't compete, maybe they should work hard, train hard, learn new skills and be better.

Are you aware that lots of British women wear the hijab? Are you aware that not all immigrants are Muslim? Are you aware that not all Muslims are the same?

And of course if an immigrant is here legally, they have just as much right to a school place for their child as a British child. It all depends on where you live.

Please read the post before responding to it. My confusion is why anyone would believe legality would change the fact that racists believe Brits are white and hail from this side of Europe. If you are non-white, speak English as an additional language and aren't Christian, a racist British person would never see you as British in the same sense that they are, regardless of whether you have legal citizenship or not.

Racists are racist.

autienotnaughty · 30/08/2025 10:04

It’s always been there in the seventies/eighties it was the Pakistani community “taking all our jobs”. After 9/11 everyone Asian was a potential bomber And then gangs and the knife culture (aimed at black people. ) And now it’s the loose term of immigrants which seems to include anyone with a different culture/skin colour and/or accent.

it’s awful and the gutter press doesn’t help riling up the stupid who seem to believe every hotel is filed with Eastern European feasting on 5* cuisine and basking in luxury.

We are not a nice country as a whole.

SuPollardsPolkaDotFrock · 30/08/2025 10:04

Tiktakmam · 30/08/2025 09:21

My parents moved here first as low-skilled workers. I followed to study and, after earning multiple degrees, have built a career in the biotechnology field. Although I had planned to head back, I met a man, and that changed my plans.

However, that doesn’t change the fact that immigrants contribute significantly to the welfare of the country through any legal job or profession. You disagree?

I suppose that would depend on individual intent. How many of the thousands of mostly men coming over illegally on dinghies do you suppose are intent on working in the biotechnology field?

Livelovebehappy · 30/08/2025 10:02

As has been said a million and one times, the current concerns on the current uncontrolled immigration is just that. It affects every single person living here. We want everyone here to have a home, have a dentist, have a GP, have access to timely hospital care. This is not attainable whilst letting in thousands of people who we cannot accommodate. It’s not a race or colour issue. It’s a current immigration policy one. I wish people would see that.

ilovesooty · 30/08/2025 10:02

inkognitha · 30/08/2025 09:59

Well, I m not planning to be a criminal.
Thanks for trying to make me feel like a second class citizen because i don’t share your views, very pro-foreigner and inclusive of you.

I think you might have misinterpreted that post.

KateMiskin · 30/08/2025 10:01

I work with a lot of people who are not white. And yet, lo and behold, they speak perfect English, have multiple STEM degrees, pay high tax and have private housing and healthcare. They deserve their jobs over Kevin with two A levels.

The idea that white people pay their way and brown or black people don't is just so deeply ignorant.

AlertEagle · 30/08/2025 10:00

Middleageddreameresawsss · 30/08/2025 09:52

Im also an immigrant. Ive worked for 20 years in the nhs. I have volunteered, paid my taxes etc. A plumber who came to my house was complaining about immigrants. I told him should I go back to my home country? Seeing as I stole someones job working on a medical ward in the nhs. He looked astonished because I 'look English'. I told him I had settled status but assume he would want me to go back to where I am from? He didnt know what to say because he couldnt stereotype me as an 'immigrant'.

Because when they hear the word immigrant they imagine someone who isnt white, who cant speak proper english, different religion. They dont realise that every day they go out immigrants are everywhere serving them in cafes/restaurants, answering the phone when they call dentist/doctor etc just everywhere, it shows how influenced they are by the media.

ResusciAnnie · 30/08/2025 09:59

The people who are banging on about migrants and national pride are the same people who go and live in Benidorm (ie migrate) then complain the locals speak Spanish.

inkognitha · 30/08/2025 09:59

pointythings · 30/08/2025 09:53

I m British now, nobody can kick me out,

Oh yes they can. If you have a second nationality, they can absolutely deport you if they think you've committed a crime or are a danger to national security. And in the current climate, being Muslim and a bit brown might well be enough - the previous government tried to deport someone on those grounds - when all he'd done was committed tax fraud. Now that is of course a crime, but it doesn't make someone a threat to national security.

All it takes is a little bit of racism.

Well, I m not planning to be a criminal.
Thanks for trying to make me feel like a second class citizen because i don’t share your views, very pro-foreigner and inclusive of you.

PandoraSocks · 30/08/2025 09:59

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Unfortunately, the racism is dripping from your post.

CaptainMyCaptain · 30/08/2025 09:58

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Quite.

pointythings · 30/08/2025 09:58

Ihavetoask · 30/08/2025 09:42

I don't understand why you'd think being here legally would change the minds of someone who is anti-immigration. The issue is that you are from a different culture that may worship a different God/follow a different religion, have different cultural values and will use resources that these types believe British people should have sole access to.

You may be here legally, but for example, your child may still require extra resources from their school simply because they speak a different language or have had adverse experiences that led you all to come here. Your child may get a place in a school above a British child who had it down as first choice. Your sons might look down on women in a way that British men do not (or something). You might wear a hijab. You will either claim benefits that British tax payers fund, or you will take jobs meant for Brits.

These are the issues that people have with immigration. Your legality is irrelevant.

And here they are!

You'll be pleased to hear that I've taken many a British job. Because I was the best candidate for those jobs. If Brits can't compete, maybe they should work hard, train hard, learn new skills and be better.

Are you aware that lots of British women wear the hijab? Are you aware that not all immigrants are Muslim? Are you aware that not all Muslims are the same?

And of course if an immigrant is here legally, they have just as much right to a school place for their child as a British child. It all depends on where you live.

MasterBeth · 30/08/2025 09:58

It brings nothing but shame to the UK that you feel this way. This country has moved to a darker place in recent years.

Rainallnight · 30/08/2025 09:57

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CaptainMyCaptain · 30/08/2025 09:56

Fairyliz · 30/08/2025 09:07

Can I ask why you came here op?
If it was because you have a skill the country needs (doctor) then isn’t it sad that you have taken those skills it from your home country.
If it was for a better standard of living that implies the UK is giving you something,so you are taking from the UK.
Im not saying that now you don’t fully contribute, but there was a chance you might not. Does the country have the resources to offer that chance to unlimited amounts of people?

Aha the xenophobe has appeared. Do you feel the same about all the British ex-pats (immigrants) taking advantage of a cheaper lifestyle in Spain or enjoying a higher tax-free income in Dubai or Saudi?

Ihavetoask · 30/08/2025 09:55

Ginmonkeyagain · 30/08/2025 09:49

@Ihavetoask Also I work with a lot of immigrants from many different countries and backgrounds. All of them speak excellent English and generally are higher rate taxpayers.

But I assume you only mean that shit when talking about some immigrants don't you - for example one of our senior managers in a white Australian immigrant.

I don't think like that but quite obviously, racists do. They make it quite clear. And I have actually seen this said against white people from other English speaking countries like Aus. in a particular field. Literally wondering why people from Aus, NZ and SA were being given senior roles over the Brits.

poetryandwine · 30/08/2025 09:55

I am from a country that is thought well of by the British, and I am white and fluent in English. We moved here for family reasons - DH is British. We both had good jobs lined up before making the move, and I have been a net contributor since arriving.

But none of this matters to the people who hold these narrow attitudes. I am cut a bit more slack than most because of my country of origin, but will always be an outsider. The only worse country I can think of at the moment is Japan, where groups of young men will chat up Western women at bars and then discuss their bodies crudely in Japanese in front of them.

Perhaps small island nations are particularly problematic?

Reform are cultivating a poisonous plant, but the seed was there.

ilovesooty · 30/08/2025 09:54

Tiktakmam · 30/08/2025 09:21

My parents moved here first as low-skilled workers. I followed to study and, after earning multiple degrees, have built a career in the biotechnology field. Although I had planned to head back, I met a man, and that changed my plans.

However, that doesn’t change the fact that immigrants contribute significantly to the welfare of the country through any legal job or profession. You disagree?

You answered that with more grace than the question deserved.

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