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Tiktakmam · 30/08/2025 08:36

I’ve been living in the UK for 16 years, have two children, and work full-time. I consider myself integrated, living according to British values, and respecting this country. I look after myself and my home, and I try to contribute positively to the community.

Yet, many of us — especially from Eastern Europe — don’t feel entirely safe with the ongoing issues around illegal migrant boats. Even though we are legal residents, I’ve noticed growing dissatisfaction from some neighbours. When I mention that I’m from Eastern Europe, I often hear comments like, “Of course you are…” — basically implying I’m not British.

This makes me feel like I’ve somehow “brought these boats” here, as if I’m just another part of the immigrant problem. Seeing flags and attitudes that suggest “immigrants go home” is disheartening.

I also feel somewhat less confident around British people, especially in areas with mostly locals and fewer immigrants. For example, when I travel to campsites or smaller towns, I sometimes feel looked at as untrustworthy. Luckily, in London I feel much less like this.

Post-Brexit, it feels like the country has changed in ways that make life less secure, not just for immigrants but for everyone. It’s heartbreaking that all migrants, legal or not, are often dropped into one pot and judged as a single group.

I keep wondering — after so many years of people from other countries contributing to making the UK a brighter, more vibrant place, why does it feel like the country has been going downhill over time?

I feel so heartbroken, because I understand that the UK will never truly be my home, as I was not born here. Yet it hurts to realize that, with every passing year, it feels more and more like I will never be fully welcome.

Why has it gone so wrong on a broader scale? How can we have a healthier, safer society for everyone, while respecting the law and supporting integration?

I hope we can have a conversation about this that goes beyond fear and politics, and focuses on community, fairness, and safety for all residents.
Im just curious, in this era of migrant boats and heightened tension around immigration, how do you perceive or feel about other immigrants, even those who are legal residents? Does this climate affect the way you interact with them or how you feel about other immigrants, especially in less multicultural towns? What does your family of friends say?

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Thingyfanding · 30/08/2025 10:46

I’m British born and I really feel I speak for the majority here. You are welcome here. Our health service is predominantly run by immigrants, the man who delivered my child was Nigerian. 95% of the staff in care homes taking care of our elderly are immigrants. I mean, our country is built on immigration!

We do need to sort the boat situation out, it’s true. I agree with the urgency but I don’t agree with anything else. The hijacking of our flag, being used by the facists to divide is disgraceful.

They won’t win!

WeAreExperiencingHigherNumberOfCallsThanUsual · 30/08/2025 10:46

IceLollyMolly · 30/08/2025 10:42

It is very easy, I agree. Life in the UK test needs to be studied for, but also was easier than I feared.
However Starmer has announced plans to make the test harder in the future.

I think the english test should absolute be harder if I am honest. Lituk was such a headache with half the info being justplain useless 😂
It makes me so integrated knowing who designed x building and what time do pubs open😂

BundleBoogie · 30/08/2025 10:46

Ironfloor269 · 30/08/2025 10:19

The British didn’t have any qualms about invading resource-rich Asian countries and
pillaging to within an inch of their lives in the name of colonialism. Funny that. Didn’t think twice before robbing the resources and sucking the countries dry, did they?

Most foreigners come here because of universal nature of the English language, again, thanks to colonisation. The British are reaping what they sowed. The chicken are finally coming home to roost.

Gosh, you really hate us don’t you? Such glee.

3pears · 30/08/2025 10:44

There is a lady on my Facebook who I need to unfollow because she keeps posting so many things about stopping the boats, closing our borders etc etc. anyone who tries to comment anything different gets told to open their eyes and that she’s entitled to her opinion. The interesting thing is that she is an immigrant herself from Eastern Europe yet is demanding we close our borders and hang our union jacks high.

QueenofDestruction · 30/08/2025 10:44

Interestingly, around 84% of people on UC are British and Irish and the UK currently has a negative birth rate. Anyone wonder how the population will financially sustain itself once it hasmade the country unpleasant to migrants. Personally as a high tax Payer I would rather my tax money goes to an asylum seeker fleeing a horrible situation. Than someone who just won't work. Immigrants are not a homogenous group they include doctors and other professionals. The British economy needs them and being xenophobic is not doing anyone any favours. Also refugees are not illegal, immigrants until their asylum claims gave been processed

LeonMccogh · 30/08/2025 10:44

Why is it that Aussies and Kiwis never seem to be treated this way?

spoonbillstretford · 30/08/2025 10:43

I'm so sorry you experienced this. I'm ashamed of a lot of people in this country at the moment and how racism has been normalised since 2016. To me, the UK should be an open, safe, welcoming and tolerant society.

catspyjamas1 · 30/08/2025 10:43

IceLollyMolly · 30/08/2025 10:38

I didn't say other cities are not welcoming I said I had no experience of them. Very clearly.

What am I and other immigrants on this thread meant to be convincing people of?

JustPassingThruHere · 30/08/2025 10:42

When you're from a different country, you'll always be a foreigner to natives. Who cares. This has always been true and you're just realising it because you're the foreigner now. Speaking as someone who has been a foreigner in a foreign country for many years, and has had many foreign relatives, it's just real life.

IceLollyMolly · 30/08/2025 10:42

WeAreExperiencingHigherNumberOfCallsThanUsual · 30/08/2025 10:40

It's b1 so pretty easy level. I didn't have to do it, DH did and he rolled his eyes at having to spend money on that easy test

It is very easy, I agree. Life in the UK test needs to be studied for, but also was easier than I feared.
However Starmer has announced plans to make the test harder in the future.

InMyHealthyEra · 30/08/2025 10:42

Many people at my work are from Eastern Europe and I have noticed a huge increase in negative attitudes towards them lately. People are grouping them into the same category as those who arrive illegally on boats.
In my workplace the attitude is very much if you weren’t born in the UK, why are you here/you should leave…etc. It appears to be becoming more common and accepted for this type of behaviour. We also have a large number of employees from African countries and the hostility towards them is horrific, including regular use the racial slurs. All of this comes from not only general staff but also managers and contractors who come on site.

catspyjamas1 · 30/08/2025 10:42

IceLollyMolly · 30/08/2025 10:38

Legal immigrants have a language test. I was educated entirely in English but still took it to make things easier. I am not sure how people are bypassing this but they shouldn't.

Not true. There is a VERY long list of exemptions, even with recent changes impacting dependents.

RedMaker · 30/08/2025 10:42

WeAreExperiencingHigherNumberOfCallsThanUsual · 30/08/2025 10:31

Actually some do. For example UAE. BUT it does bring them great benefits. That's the trick

UAE: totally different. Citizenship can never be a "right" for a foreigner; it's a privilege which is bestowed on them. You never "qualify." There's almost no path to citizenship. You go to work, fund yourself entirely, and can be removed at any time. You'll never be entitled to any form of support from the state, or have equal rights to a native.

In other words, they can be a minority numerically but their dominant status will never be threatened.

That's entirely different to the UK. You'll never have a leader with a British surname there.

Fairyliz · 30/08/2025 10:42

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This is the problem we can’t have a proper debate about immigration and a recognition that there are pros and cons, instead people descend into insults. Sad isn’t it?

Dragonflydancer · 30/08/2025 10:41

I was an immigrant in an Asian country during a decade, but i would never have presumed that my community there was making the place more "vibrant" 😅

Ironfloor269 · 30/08/2025 10:41

So if immigration is such a problem, why don’t the government close the borders and stop all immigration? What’s stopping them? Oh yes, because they don’t want to wipe your own ageing parents’ arses, you need an immigrant to do that, right?

StandFirm · 30/08/2025 10:40

Tiktakmam · 30/08/2025 08:36

I’ve been living in the UK for 16 years, have two children, and work full-time. I consider myself integrated, living according to British values, and respecting this country. I look after myself and my home, and I try to contribute positively to the community.

Yet, many of us — especially from Eastern Europe — don’t feel entirely safe with the ongoing issues around illegal migrant boats. Even though we are legal residents, I’ve noticed growing dissatisfaction from some neighbours. When I mention that I’m from Eastern Europe, I often hear comments like, “Of course you are…” — basically implying I’m not British.

This makes me feel like I’ve somehow “brought these boats” here, as if I’m just another part of the immigrant problem. Seeing flags and attitudes that suggest “immigrants go home” is disheartening.

I also feel somewhat less confident around British people, especially in areas with mostly locals and fewer immigrants. For example, when I travel to campsites or smaller towns, I sometimes feel looked at as untrustworthy. Luckily, in London I feel much less like this.

Post-Brexit, it feels like the country has changed in ways that make life less secure, not just for immigrants but for everyone. It’s heartbreaking that all migrants, legal or not, are often dropped into one pot and judged as a single group.

I keep wondering — after so many years of people from other countries contributing to making the UK a brighter, more vibrant place, why does it feel like the country has been going downhill over time?

I feel so heartbroken, because I understand that the UK will never truly be my home, as I was not born here. Yet it hurts to realize that, with every passing year, it feels more and more like I will never be fully welcome.

Why has it gone so wrong on a broader scale? How can we have a healthier, safer society for everyone, while respecting the law and supporting integration?

I hope we can have a conversation about this that goes beyond fear and politics, and focuses on community, fairness, and safety for all residents.
Im just curious, in this era of migrant boats and heightened tension around immigration, how do you perceive or feel about other immigrants, even those who are legal residents? Does this climate affect the way you interact with them or how you feel about other immigrants, especially in less multicultural towns? What does your family of friends say?

OP, don't believe the online noise. It's a murky swamp that doesn't reflect the reality of what most people feel. Yes, the contagion is spreading and more people are falling into the populist trap, but don't say the UK will never be your home- because it already is your home.

WeAreExperiencingHigherNumberOfCallsThanUsual · 30/08/2025 10:40

IceLollyMolly · 30/08/2025 10:38

Legal immigrants have a language test. I was educated entirely in English but still took it to make things easier. I am not sure how people are bypassing this but they shouldn't.

It's b1 so pretty easy level. I didn't have to do it, DH did and he rolled his eyes at having to spend money on that easy test

Piggywaspushed · 30/08/2025 10:39

over run with Polish shops?

I take it you mean busy/thriving/ rescued by the presence of footfall.

IceLollyMolly · 30/08/2025 10:38

catspyjamas1 · 30/08/2025 10:37

I'm a tax paying immigrant - what is it that I'm meant to be trying to convince people of?

The UK is plenty welcoming outside London too, maybe broaden your horizons.

I didn't say other cities are not welcoming I said I had no experience of them. Very clearly.

Ginmonkeyagain · 30/08/2025 10:38

@Ihavetoask you said "literally wondering why people from Aus, NZ etc.. are given senior roles over Brits"

MissHollysDolly · 30/08/2025 10:38

I’m so sorry you feel like this. Please know that many of us who were born here do not feel the same way as the people you’re experiencing x

IceLollyMolly · 30/08/2025 10:38

Middlechild3 · 30/08/2025 10:36

Agree. If I migrated I would bend over backwards to learn the language and fit in with the local ways whichever country I went to. British people can't query why this hasn't been happening here without being labelled racist. The pendulum has swung too far the other way. Asylum seekers and some economic migrants should always be welcomed but the onus is on them to fit in not British people and culture to change to accommodate.

Legal immigrants have a language test. I was educated entirely in English but still took it to make things easier. I am not sure how people are bypassing this but they shouldn't.

catspyjamas1 · 30/08/2025 10:37

IceLollyMolly · 30/08/2025 10:34

Honestly all us legal tax paying immigrants- especially those not white- need to stop trying to convince xenophobes, especially those on this thread. They won't be convinced. I do not care what they say.
I have been generally welcomed by most Londoners, so I venture to say that London is mostly very welcoming ( no experience of other cities)

I'm a tax paying immigrant - what is it that I'm meant to be trying to convince people of?

The UK is plenty welcoming outside London too, maybe broaden your horizons.

Middlechild3 · 30/08/2025 10:36

NoMoreHotHols · 30/08/2025 10:26

I don’t think so. It seems that British people are not allowed ro speak freely and are called a racist as soon as they mention issues that immigarion can bring.

Agree. If I migrated I would bend over backwards to learn the language and fit in with the local ways whichever country I went to. British people can't query why this hasn't been happening here without being labelled racist. The pendulum has swung too far the other way. Asylum seekers and some economic migrants should always be welcomed but the onus is on them to fit in not British people and culture to change to accommodate.