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H told me “why don’t you go k!ll yourself” in an argument

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BloodyHellKenn · 29/08/2025 15:06

Trigger warning. I’m now separated from exh (very recently) and we’ve been “dissecting” our marriage. One thing crops up (among many many others) is a couple of times in arguments he would storm off and tell me “Why don’t you just k&ll yourself?!” or “Just go play in traffic” or “Go jump off a roof” I left him and he’s very angry and bitter. He doesn’t see the seriousness of the kind of things he used to say to me.

So last night we talked again on the phone and he brought up how I couldn’t be trusted (as I left him) and how he can barely look at me or forgive me. I brought up what he used to say to me and he said “Well obviously you would never have actually done it”

I don’t think he realises how serious it was what he was saying. Or is it the sign of an emotionally immature, childish man? He also said how I never showed him any affection and how attention starved he was, it’s obvious I never loved him he says.

But now my family has been torn apart and I’m the bad guy 😢

Just seeking advice on this - on what he used to say to me?

He wasn’t all terrible and worked hard, loved our children, could also shower me with affection and praise.

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cestlavielife · 29/08/2025 15:45

You don't need to discuss with him ever .
Move on
Try different narrative that you will roll out to anyone else who needs to know
"Marriage was not working for me /for either of us. So we split. We better apart"
In 5 or 10 years no one will care who said what to who .

Owlteapot · 29/08/2025 15:44

Abusive people will never accept their responsibility and wrongdoing. When I left my ex told me it was all my fault, how was he supposed to know his behaviour was wrong etc etc. He would call and tell me all this regularly, after a few calls I stopped answering. It wasn't doing me any good and honestly I couldn't care less if it helped him or not.
Ignore and hang up if he starts having a go at you

SpryCat · 29/08/2025 15:43

You are trying to justify your decision you split up with your ex, as though you are guilty of something. Everything you say to him will be dismissed and disregarded as he has no intention of acknowledging any problems. He wants to make you feel in the wrong to force you go back to him with your tail between your legs begging him to forgive you.

CrispySquid · 29/08/2025 15:42

He sounds horrible and abusive. “Go kill yourself!” or “go play in traffic!” is a thing immature teenagers say to each other when arguing in real life or on social media and it’s really unpleasant and as well as being moronic.

Cherrysoup · 29/08/2025 15:41

Hardgum81 · 29/08/2025 15:07

Why the hell are you dissecting an abusive marriage with the other person

it literally makes fuck all sense

And this is why you’re advised not to have therapy with an abusive partner. Don’t all oh I’m to drag you into similar discussions, you owe him nothing, just hang up.

Hardgum81 · 29/08/2025 15:40

My suggestion is to very calmly suggest, would he be comfortably justifying telling you to kill yourself - to his mum, friends, sister, colleague - anyone in his life really. Can he explain how it is actually totally fine to tell your wife to go kill themselves in an argument?

don’t bother OP
seriously don’t bother

Topseyt123 · 29/08/2025 15:40

You need to stop dissecting this with your arsehole ex. He is never going to accept that he was in the wrong. He is a nasty person. He's more likely to turn it back on you and deflect. There will be no sudden epiphany from him if that's what you are hoping for.

You've split. Now stay strong and make it permanent. He will never change. It will be better for you and the children (did you give their ages?) if you don't remain in this dreadful relationship.

BountifulPantry · 29/08/2025 15:38

BloodyHellKenn · 29/08/2025 15:26

But I wish I didn’t doubt myself so much. There’s still a sense that I overreacted or was too sensitive etc.

You weren't too sensitive.

Back yourself!!!!

Also you can leave a relationship for literally no reason at all (or no reason). Nothing compelling you to stay with anyone.

BountifulPantry · 29/08/2025 15:37

Errr why are you still speaking to him???

you need to discuss practical stuff like divorce and stuff about kids. That’s it.

Why are you torturing yourself with this crap?

shootingstar001 · 29/08/2025 15:30

He is just trying to minimize his behaviour - he'll know deep down this was one the effed up things that compelled you into action to leave him.

He just wants to gaslight you into believing it wasn't really that bad/heat of the moment comment etc. So you can be the bad guy and he can keep deluding himself that he isn't the problem.

Unless he is completely mad - he knows how terrible it is to say that to someone. It's totally f**ed.

My suggestion is to very calmly suggest, would he be comfortably justifying telling you to kill yourself - to his mum, friends, sister, colleague - anyone in his life really. Can he explain how it is actually totally fine to tell your wife to go kill themselves in an argument?

Ask if he can honestly think he would be able to stand there and repeat his justification.

I'm guessing he won't be able to do it.

YourWildAmberSloth · 29/08/2025 15:30

BloodyHellKenn · 29/08/2025 15:11

We were discussing a trial separation as the loss of the family unit is hard to get over. But he doesn’t seem to comprehend quite how vile some of the things he used to say.

He knows how vile he was. You're the one who seems to have forgotten if you are thinking of this as a trial separation.

Hardgum81 · 29/08/2025 15:26

BloodyHellKenn · 29/08/2025 15:26

But I wish I didn’t doubt myself so much. There’s still a sense that I overreacted or was too sensitive etc.

Let us tell you quite clearly that what you describe is truly…. Vile.

EuclidianGeometryFan · 29/08/2025 15:26

BloodyHellKenn · 29/08/2025 15:11

We were discussing a trial separation as the loss of the family unit is hard to get over. But he doesn’t seem to comprehend quite how vile some of the things he used to say.

But he doesn’t seem to comprehend quite how vile some of the things he used to say.

And?
So?

Why do you need him to comprehend it?

You are never, ever, going to get him to agree that he was wrong.

What is more, you have to get to a place where you don't need him to admit he was wrong, because he is irrelevant.

Just get on with the divorce, and restrict all communication with him to absolute essentials only.

BloodyHellKenn · 29/08/2025 15:26

BloodyHellKenn · 29/08/2025 15:25

That’s what I felt our marriage was, from the outside it looked healthy and loving but on the inside it was rotten unfortunately.

But I wish I didn’t doubt myself so much. There’s still a sense that I overreacted or was too sensitive etc.

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Hardgum81 · 29/08/2025 15:26

BloodyHellKenn · 29/08/2025 15:25

That’s what I felt our marriage was, from the outside it looked healthy and loving but on the inside it was rotten unfortunately.

Ok

so, enough with the dissecting and on to the practicalities

this would have been ghastly for the children so please don’t concern yourself with breaking up the family unit

BloodyHellKenn · 29/08/2025 15:25

Hardgum81 · 29/08/2025 15:22

Rather than channelling your time and energy in to dissecting something that is rotten to the core…. Focus on progressing the logistics pf the split

That’s what I felt our marriage was, from the outside it looked healthy and loving but on the inside it was rotten unfortunately.

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Hardgum81 · 29/08/2025 15:22

Rather than channelling your time and energy in to dissecting something that is rotten to the core…. Focus on progressing the logistics pf the split

Calamitousness · 29/08/2025 15:21

You are not going to get a changed man by talking about this with him. He will
downplay his abuse. What do you expect from it? Just walk away. You’ve made the first step. Keep going.

5128gap · 29/08/2025 15:21

Yes, those are terrible things to say. When you get out of an abusive relationship these things have a habit of popping up in your mind and you reflect on them with distance in a way you may not have done in the immediacy of the situation. Personally I wouldn't discuss them with him though. Everytime you engage at a deeper level with him you're giving him the opportunity to fire more shots and create more wounds. You need the ones you have to heal.

Hardgum81 · 29/08/2025 15:21

BloodyHellKenn · 29/08/2025 15:11

We were discussing a trial separation as the loss of the family unit is hard to get over. But he doesn’t seem to comprehend quite how vile some of the things he used to say.

The family unit sounds a horrible environment for everyone, especially children.

Have you split or not? It’s not clear if you’re now saying discussing a trial separation

Are you living together?

DaisyChain505 · 29/08/2025 15:20

BloodyHellKenn · 29/08/2025 15:11

We were discussing a trial separation as the loss of the family unit is hard to get over. But he doesn’t seem to comprehend quite how vile some of the things he used to say.

You’re beating a dead horse here. Separate and move on.

Wildfairy · 29/08/2025 15:20

Goodness are you trying to get back with this loser. What’s making you want that then?

BloodyHellKenn · 29/08/2025 15:19

Millytante · 29/08/2025 15:18

What constitutes this family unit? Have you children? (Apart from him, that is; he being clearly a superannuated teenager)

Yes, two DC.

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Millytante · 29/08/2025 15:18

BloodyHellKenn · 29/08/2025 15:11

We were discussing a trial separation as the loss of the family unit is hard to get over. But he doesn’t seem to comprehend quite how vile some of the things he used to say.

What constitutes this family unit? Have you children? (Apart from him, that is; he being clearly a superannuated teenager)

AgentJohnson · 29/08/2025 15:17

He’s never going to change, he’s never going to take responsibility for his behaviour and he will always paint you as the bad guy. No one is saying walking away is easy but you can’t fix what you didn’t break.