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cittykat · 29/08/2025 07:48

my 9 year old son is a massive cat lover. He has cat slippers, tshirts, pens etc etc. I got him some cat pyjamas. These ones. https://amzn.to/45XnCwa

my husband (son’s dad) keeps telling him that he has to stop wearing them as they are girls’ pyjamas.

my son has said to him “please can you stop calling them girls’ pyjamas” and my husband says that he will be bullied if his friends see him wearing them. I have pointed out that the only one bullying him is his own father.

my husband says that telling him that they’re girls’ and not appropriate is not bullying it’s “parenting”

my husband thinks the shorts on the pyjamas are too short. Like little hot pants. Sometimes when son is lounging on the sofa they ride up and some bum cheek is visible. This angers husband and starts him off on his “girls’ pyjamas” conversation again.

son likes the pyjamas. I said I would ask on here what people thought. Please vote.

YANBU - your husband should stop calling them “girls’ pyjamas” to your son and back off

YABU - your son shouldn’t wear the pyjamas and your husband is right to protect him from future bullying if son’s friends saw the pyjamas on a sleepover.

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Katherine9 · 29/08/2025 10:56

Funnywonder · 29/08/2025 10:51

I absolutely agree. Everyone is generally fine with a girl exhibiting her ‘tomboy’ characteristics by wearing ‘boy’ clothes. But some folk seem to get themselves into a right old state about boys wearing ‘girl’ clothes. Because they’re punching down. Being soft instead of tough. Fucking hell. Are we really still here with all this shit?

I think you've misunderstood. They are girly pjs and sold as such. The kid is wearing them because he likes cats, not because he's chosen to present a more feminine side to his nature (which is what the father and most likely others would interpret from his wearing them). OP should have found a more suitable pair of pjs that have cats on or at very least, replaced the shorts with something better fitting.

If the time comes that the kid wants to deliberately choose feminine clothing, so be it. But that's a different discussion because at the moment, the decision is based on liking cats and OP's poor shopping choices.

Rosscameasdoody · 29/08/2025 10:51

narniabusiness · 29/08/2025 10:45

You and your husband need to deal with your differences of opinion without involving your child.
If you continue to disagree then a compromise would be to keep the top and wear it with different shorts.

This. A quick google shows lots of similar designs for boys with longer shorts, or just get longer neutral shorts to go with the top. The comments dad is making should be to OP, out of earshot of the child. Or better still why doesn’t he take his son shopping for something similar and more appropriate if he objects so strongly.

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 29/08/2025 10:51

@cittykat YANBU.

However.

Can I suggest that you go on Vinted, select girls' sleepwear, filter by size, and put the word "cat" in as a search term?

There is a plethora of pyjamas with cats on in size 9.

Your DH appears to be right that cat motifs seem to be marketed to girls (or at least, sellers on Vinted seem to think that pyjamas with cats on are for girls), but a lot of what is there is really very gender neutral.

Vinted is the place to find stuff if you're looking for a particular motif.

Funnywonder · 29/08/2025 10:51

SomeOfTheTrouble · 29/08/2025 09:47

The majority of the posters on here thinking this is an issue would, I’d wager, be absolutely fine with a 9 year old girl wearing ‘boys’ pyjamas. Because misogyny. It’s still seen as an inherently bad thing to be ‘girly’.

I absolutely agree. Everyone is generally fine with a girl exhibiting her ‘tomboy’ characteristics by wearing ‘boy’ clothes. But some folk seem to get themselves into a right old state about boys wearing ‘girl’ clothes. Because they’re punching down. Being soft instead of tough. Fucking hell. Are we really still here with all this shit?

SwayzeM · 29/08/2025 10:51

Who cares if he wears cat pj's? If there is a genuine issue with the shorts being too revealing, whether worn by a girl or a boy, it's a design flaw. Just buy some plain coordinating shorts to wear with the top and ditch the useless ones.

KellySeveride · 29/08/2025 10:49

I mean two of my three boys would refuse to wear them on the basis that they’re girls pyjamas. My third doesn’t give a shit about such nonsense and happily wears my Nike trackie trousers if his are in the wash (he’s 17) he doesn’t care what it’s labelled as (and these ones are labelled as women’s).

Your husband is the problem here.

Katherine9 · 29/08/2025 10:49

LittleBitofBread · 29/08/2025 10:39

Sorry, 'clearly girl pjs' how? (and it's not because they're described as such on Amazon). It's a pair of shorts and a T-shirt. Is it because they have cats on them? If so, why is that for girls and boys? It's because the shorts are not long, why is that okay for girls but not for boys?

I think the Amazon description should be taken at face value. They aren't sold as unisex. And from what the OP has said, they don't sound appropriate. And to clarify, I don't think EITHER male or female children should have their bum cheeks visible. This issue could have been avoided if the OP had been more thoughtful in her purchase. They could have easily been returned when found to be too short/poorly fitting.

It actually looks like OP and the father are caught up in a power struggle and using their son as a way to score points against each other. Surely OP knew her partner wouldn't find the shorts appropriate but bought them anyway and encourages him to wear them. Then hopes for support on MN.

MixedFeelingsNoFeelings · 29/08/2025 10:49

Doesn't sound like bullying to me, just a father who doesn't want his kid to be picked on - as he definitely would have been, in DH's day.

Yeah, if DH was a bit more canny he wouldn't use terms like 'girl's pyjamas', even though that is literally how they're being marketed. And yeah, stupid him for not realising times have changed and it's not such a big deal for boys to wear clothes designated for girls these days.

But that said - can you not see past his choice of vocab, from which PPs are extrapolating all kinds of dated and toxic attitudes, to a father whose main concern is his son's wellbeing? Maybe you just need to explain to him that boys today do wear things that would have made them targets in the past, but are now more widespread and accepted.

Or is there more to it - an underlying resentment of DH that's come out in this bizarre accusation of bullying?

Rosscameasdoody · 29/08/2025 10:49

LittleBitofBread · 29/08/2025 10:35

I’d get my husband to explain why he thinks a girl wearing tiny bum-showing shorts would be ok, if it’s not ok for his son?

Yes, this, exactly. It's a bit disturbing.
And YANBU, obviously; he needs to give his head a wobble and have a think about sexism. Your son can wear what he wants. Good for him for standing up for himself and not buying his father's gendered nonsense.

He didn’t say it was OK for a girl though did he ? The comment was aimed at the fact that they were designed for a girl, not that he would like to see a girl wearing them - just that they were inappropriate for a boy.

JessMaydew · 29/08/2025 10:48

On Amazon they do a blue shirt with black cats on a piano. Could that be something he'd wear?

narniabusiness · 29/08/2025 10:45

You and your husband need to deal with your differences of opinion without involving your child.
If you continue to disagree then a compromise would be to keep the top and wear it with different shorts.

Rosscameasdoody · 29/08/2025 10:43

Larkonomics · 29/08/2025 10:33

Yeah that's why I deleted my comment.

Actually that's not why I deleted it, I deleted it because I knew someone would comment what you have and it's more nuanced than that.

Edited

How so ? There are a slew of comments here very clearly implying that OP’s DH is some sort of perv who objects to his DS’s bum cheek being exposed, but who wouldn’t mind seeing the same of his daughter. There’s absolutely nothing in OP’s post to suggest that, and yet here we are.

LittleBitofBread · 29/08/2025 10:43

Rosscameasdoody · 29/08/2025 10:25

It’s actually quite depressing to see so many posters trying to twist what OP has said so they can accuse her DH of being some sort of perv. The trend towards picking up on ridiculous minutiae totally irrelevant to the point of the thread and running with it to the point of derailment will be the death of MN. AIBU has always been brutal, but it’s now getting to the point where the opportunity for reasonable debate is lost in a slew of anonymous keyboard warriors saying things they would never dare to utter to anyone face to face.

Not of being some sort of perv, of thinking that what he thinks of as too-short shorts are OK for girls but not boys. How on earth is that 'irrelevant' when his whole argument is that some things are okay for girls but not boys?

Katherine9 · 29/08/2025 10:41

Larkonomics · 29/08/2025 10:33

Yeah that's why I deleted my comment.

Actually that's not why I deleted it, I deleted it because I knew someone would comment what you have and it's more nuanced than that.

Edited

People are getting hysterical about a guy not liking his son wearing girl pjs that resemble 'little hot pants' then resorting to insults such as 'paedo' while arguing he needs to be more open minded. Seriously.

LittleBitofBread · 29/08/2025 10:41

piscesangel · 29/08/2025 10:38

Your husband is so very wrong to behave like this towards your son.

However, you mentioned response to the pjs on a sleepover - it’s not appropriate to send a child of either sex to a sleepover wearing ‘little hot pants’ that don’t cover their bum fully. Surely you know that.

it’s not appropriate to send a child of either sex to a sleepover wearing ‘little hot pants’
The shorts, from the picture, are clearly not 'little hot pants'; that's what the OP says her husband called them. Hot pants are cut so short that they will never cover bum cheek; these ones sometimes ride up when her son is lounging in a particular way and show a bit of bum cheek. That's different.

Swedemom · 29/08/2025 10:41

cittykat · 29/08/2025 07:48

my 9 year old son is a massive cat lover. He has cat slippers, tshirts, pens etc etc. I got him some cat pyjamas. These ones. https://amzn.to/45XnCwa

my husband (son’s dad) keeps telling him that he has to stop wearing them as they are girls’ pyjamas.

my son has said to him “please can you stop calling them girls’ pyjamas” and my husband says that he will be bullied if his friends see him wearing them. I have pointed out that the only one bullying him is his own father.

my husband says that telling him that they’re girls’ and not appropriate is not bullying it’s “parenting”

my husband thinks the shorts on the pyjamas are too short. Like little hot pants. Sometimes when son is lounging on the sofa they ride up and some bum cheek is visible. This angers husband and starts him off on his “girls’ pyjamas” conversation again.

son likes the pyjamas. I said I would ask on here what people thought. Please vote.

YANBU - your husband should stop calling them “girls’ pyjamas” to your son and back off

YABU - your son shouldn’t wear the pyjamas and your husband is right to protect him from future bullying if son’s friends saw the pyjamas on a sleepover.

Ask your husband why he hates women and girls and try to make his son to hate us as well! Because that is what he is teaching. He says that girls are bad and to be avoided at all cost because what they like is inferior. He is red pilling right now. And being a bully.

k1233 · 29/08/2025 10:40

cittykat · 29/08/2025 07:53

Husband dislikes the pyjamas because the shorts are very short and to him the style should only be worn by girls. He would like a more full coverage short.

the difficulty is that it seems hard to find “boys” short sleeved summer pyjamas with a cat print. Otherwise I would have bought them in the first place. But truly I didn’t and still don’t see the problem so never occurred to me not to buy them. Son loves them.

Why not buy the long pant version and hem them at a more suitable boxer length. Easy solution.

Alternatively, swap the shorts out for a longer boxer style short.

LittleBitofBread · 29/08/2025 10:39

Katherine9 · 29/08/2025 10:36

Agreed on this. No need for the paedo accusations at all. I think a lot of men would feel a bit awkward about seeing their son wearing what are clearly girl pjs. There's no suggestion he would find a girl doing this ok either. OP could have managed this better by keeping the top and finding alternative, more appropriate shorts.

Sorry, 'clearly girl pjs' how? (and it's not because they're described as such on Amazon). It's a pair of shorts and a T-shirt. Is it because they have cats on them? If so, why is that for girls and boys? It's because the shorts are not long, why is that okay for girls but not for boys?

piscesangel · 29/08/2025 10:38

Your husband is so very wrong to behave like this towards your son.

However, you mentioned response to the pjs on a sleepover - it’s not appropriate to send a child of either sex to a sleepover wearing ‘little hot pants’ that don’t cover their bum fully. Surely you know that.

Rosscameasdoody · 29/08/2025 10:38

Bennetty · 29/08/2025 10:25

The commenter didn't say anything about the father being a pervert. They're pointing out a double standard. If shorts are too short for a boy, why are they not too short for a girl?

He didn’t say it was ok for girls to wear it though. I read the comment more that there was a clear distinction in the design and marketing, that they were meant for girls, and it wasn’t appropriate for DS to be wearing them. Whether or not he’d be OK with his DD wearing them hasn’t been clarified, only implied.

Katherine9 · 29/08/2025 10:36

Wildfairy · 29/08/2025 09:36

I don’t feel this is acceptable, you’re basically accusing the man of being a incestuous paedo, there is absolutely nothing to suggest this man wants to see your girls arses or even worse his mythical own daughters. Too far. Far too far.

Agreed on this. No need for the paedo accusations at all. I think a lot of men would feel a bit awkward about seeing their son wearing what are clearly girl pjs. There's no suggestion he would find a girl doing this ok either. OP could have managed this better by keeping the top and finding alternative, more appropriate shorts.

LittleBitofBread · 29/08/2025 10:35

ResusciAnnie · 29/08/2025 07:58

I’d get my husband to explain why he thinks a girl wearing tiny bum-showing shorts would be ok, if it’s not ok for his son? 😵‍💫

I’d get my husband to explain why he thinks a girl wearing tiny bum-showing shorts would be ok, if it’s not ok for his son?

Yes, this, exactly. It's a bit disturbing.
And YANBU, obviously; he needs to give his head a wobble and have a think about sexism. Your son can wear what he wants. Good for him for standing up for himself and not buying his father's gendered nonsense.

youve987456 · 29/08/2025 10:34

I believe that this kind of behaviour is fuelling gender confusion in children. Someone tells a child that what they are wearing or doing is for children of the opposite sex, and then they start wondering about their gender. It needs to stop.

Larkonomics · 29/08/2025 10:33

Rosscameasdoody · 29/08/2025 10:29

Where has OP said anything like that ? She said her DH thinks that style should only be worn by girls - statement to the fact that they were designed for, and marketed to girls. At no point has OP said her DH would like to see girls wearing it, just that he doesn’t think it appropriate for his son. The fact that you and many others on here are jumping to that conclusion actually says more about you.

Yeah that's why I deleted my comment.

Actually that's not why I deleted it, I deleted it because I knew someone would comment what you have and it's more nuanced than that.

EuclidianGeometryFan · 29/08/2025 10:33

cittykat · 29/08/2025 08:38

The question isn't really are the labelled as girls or not. We can see they are (although I don't know why they are)

Husband knows they are. That's what has started this whole thing.

The question is should son be allowed to continue wearing them, and should DH stop bullying son over it now son has asked husband to stop mentioning it.

They fit him absolutely fine. They are a size bigger than he normally wears.

The question is should son be allowed to continue wearing them, and should DH stop bullying son over it now son has asked husband to stop mentioning it.

You obviously already know the answer to this.
So what are you going to do about your DH?