Guests and disturbing them

Gosh! 🫣

Not that it's relevant to to the thread 😄 but tbh some cat litter genuinely does absorb smell, if our cats ever need to be kept in we use Everclean (I think that's what it's called) and provided we keep up with scooping/changing the litter there's genuinely no smell most of the time. I'm wondering if your sister's using a non-clumping litter as those can get grim.

I think the point is that everyone's 'within reason' is different (I am fine if I'm sleeping in someone's living room and they come in to get the day started at 7 am, but clearly that's not okay for you). And presumably if it's friends or family, you will either know what everybody's habits are, or be relaxed enough to discuss them, so no one feels uncomfortable or awkward.

You don’t have guests staying .. you have your son staying - entirely different.

She has her bed they could've had. Then she could have slept downstairs and got up at 7am without any fretting.

If they’re that rude then yes. Though I’d likely not be there in the first place if they’re like that!

Expecting everyone to tiptoe around you is equally rude.

Seriously? 7am on a weekday isn't remotely early.

Hence why I laughed and said “please tell me you don’t do this” as it’s rude and rage inducing when you’re asleep early in the morning.

Yes to a point but getting disturbed at 7am is early. If the litter tray was smelly just go out the front door to empty in a bin, or I don't know flush the offending cat poo down the loo.

Again, either give anyone staying a bed or leave them undisturbed until at least 8am.

Christ, I'm bloody glad none of my friends are the type to be bustling about the house at 7am.

OP doesn't have a room to give them.

It's incredibly rude to tell someone to behave in their own house.
I honestly don't think the chop chop PP was being serious though.

This was my mother's approach to getting my brother and I up in the mornings. She'd breeze into our room, whip open the curtains and say 'breakfast is ready!'

The only real problem was that she was a chronically early riser and would put breakfast on as soon as she was up, so it would be about 6.30am. My stomach hadn't even come on-line yet.

We were NEVER late for school though.

It's OPs house though.

You'd tell someone 'where to go' in their own house?

It doesn't tell anyone whether you're awake. It only tells them - and even then, only if you have that feature enabled - when you last looked at WhatsApp.

Unless the OP's guests are in the habit of checking WhatsApp the moment they open their eyes in the morning, checking their 'last seen' will not tell her whether they're asleep or not. I've been up for two hours today and I haven't looked at WhatsApp since early evening yesterday. And in any case, you can disable the feature so people can't snoop.

I think guests should fit in with the timings of the house they're staying in (within reason: if your guests are sleeping in the living room and you habitually get up at 4am to hoover then you should at least give advance notice).

I wouldn't be rude about it, but everyone would think you are completely unhinged and I would never ever come to visit you 😂

What a rude behaviour, why inviting guests if you don't want them?

exactly this - but no wonder some people find it so stressful to host or be a guest when they don't.

When I have guests, I give them a room where they can stay as late as they want but other people can have a normal life and get on with their life.

It's normal to take the sofa bed and be free to do whatever you want to do in your own home, and they can stay in the bedroom. I also put an alarm clock so I am up early enough.

They can still go in the kitchen

It's not just me, everywhere I stay, friends or family do exactly the same. I can't imagine someone waiting in their bedroom for their guests to wake up.

I don’t mind someone waking me up, but you don’t just barge in opening curtains shouting “chop, chop!”

Incredibly rude, and I’d be more than happy to leave as you’d be no friend of mine after that!

I have regularly stayed at a family member's house on their sofa before they moved away. I respected that I was in their home and that they would pass by (I slept fully dressed with a blanket over me).

If I was you, I'd just go in, try not to make too much noise if they are still asleep and sort out the cat litter. If say the litter box drops on the floor, makes a noise, just apologise for waking them. Don't stress. One has to expect disturbance when staying in someone else's home.

Well, to prevent the situation she has posted about?

Give guests a bed. Even the other son's bed and he sleeps on a airbed in the op's room?

I can't think many peope would be thrilled at being disturbed at 7am even if they were on their phones.

I think if you're staying at someone's house it would be you as the guest who would be told where to go. A hotel maybe?

Unless it's 6am in which case you have every right to be annoyed!!