Cycling Mikey doesn't deserve the hate he's getting

what does jeremy vine say?

Looking at phones, sending messages, watching videos in slow moving or stationery traffic is dangerous. You're not looking at the road or around you. Someone honks and you set off without looking. Just don't.

I didn't comment on something I haven't watched - I commented on what OP said, and explicitly said I wasn't commenting on him or his videos, only on OP's comment. If you didn't read what I said before deciding to have a problem, that's not my fault.

If I started a post about Love Island and said "cats are black but dogs aren't", it doesn't take knowledge of Love Island for someone else to say "I haven't watched Love Island so I don't know what happened with Yasmine but I have a black dog so dogs can be black".

Bit odd to comment on something you haven't watched.

You can't hit anyone in stationery traffic. That's the point they're making. Starting to move again when you haven't checked properly is obviously dangerous - sitting in stationery traffic is not. Yet both are equally as illegal. That's the point being made. Illegal does not always mean dangerous.

I say this as a non-driving cyclist. It's not a difficult point to understand.

That isn't the definition of dangerous driving.

Yep. I got my motorcycle license years before my car one. When I was in my car, when waiting in traffic, I would be looking around all the time for bikers coming up the middle etc.

There is the SMIDSY campaign (Sorry Mate, I Didn't See You).

In stationary traffic it isn't actually dangerous to use your phone. Nor is it always dangerous to drive a couple of meters on the other side of the road (eg clear empty road, and you want to skip the queue to make a right turn).

id disagree with this. If you’re in your phone and suddenly realise the traffic has moved the chances are you chuck your phone down and set off in a hurry without properly checking there’s no cyclist filtering through.

the corner he often stands on where people,go the wrong side of the road to turn right (if clear) is dangerous. It’s on a junction. By the time they’ve pulled out and committed to being on the wrong side of the road a cyclist or indeed a car could turn left from the main road into their path.

Worse kind of human's a bit strong! Not paedophiles, murderers and dictators?

Of course it’s dangerous. A child could run across, not looking left as they don’t expect to. You could hit a cyclist or another car coming round the corner.

Why do you think it’s illegal to use your phone even in stationery traffic?

If they hit someone, by definition that would be dangerous driving.

It takes about 30 seconds for a driver to refocus after interacting with their phone, so a driver who is at the front of a line of traffic texting, thinking "it's fine because I'm stationary," is vastly more likely to cause an accident when they move off from the lights than one who hasn't been texting. So yes, it would be capable of endangering others.

Here is one source for that, there are dozens of others: https://www.onfocus.news/new-study-34-of-crashes-happen-within-60-seconds-of-phone-distraction/

Love from a smug holier than thou fucker who doesn't have "just one drink" when driving, doesn't text "just in stationary traffic," doesn't transport a toddler without a car seat "just a mile down the road," doesn't go through red lights "just behind the last car," doesn't park in disabled bays "just to pop in for a pint of milk" and also doesn't break the speed limit "just by a couple of mph".

OP was talking about pursuing motorists though. That's the point. I haven't said a single thing about this guy and said I haven't seen his videos. I was specifically referring to OP's point about pursuing motorists. How many times does that need to be said!?

No, he dobs them in. The telling off is just a bonus ego boost. He is the worst kind of human, as his misanthropy is coated in slimy do-gooderism.

Because they start moving and sometimes veer into the middle, or start to change lane.
Most of my near misses have been when I have filtered through heavy traffic, or past parked cars. People open their doors without looking.

If they killed someone crossing the road legally at 3am, would you class it as dangerous driving? Or is it just bad luck?

He doesn’t “pursue motorists”, he stops them and tell them to behave better. That doesn’t require training.

In stationary traffic it isn't actually dangerous to use your phone. Nor is it always dangerous to drive a couple of meters on the other side of the road (eg clear empty road, and you want to skip the queue to make a right turn).

If legality is your compass, then doing 21 in a 20 zone is illegal. But if it's common sense then most of CM's victims aren't actually doing anything dangerous.

The punishment of points and a fine certainly don't fit the crime of checking your phone is standstill traffic.

Yep, as a cyclist I always move away from stationery drivers on their phone. They are distracted, and that distraction means they are concentrating even when the phone is put down

Because you aren't paying attention to the road.

As a cyclist AND a driver, other people’s shitty driving terrifies me.

You don’t think driving down the wrong side of the road is dangerous?!

He doesn’t stop speeding cars.

Ive probably done 21 in a 20 but I’ve never used my mobile phone or driven down the wrong side of the road.

Yes. Like I asked, why does it matter if they don't see your filtering through non-moving traffic? You've said it's dangerous but I genuinely don't understand why.

Is this the so called “Threw his bike at a car”???

Do people not know the meaning of the word “throw”

Interesting how nobody was offended by the fiat speeding on the wrong side of the road