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Flags..

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Elephant9 · 28/08/2025 13:46

Just a chat to understand what’s going on with the influx of England and UJ flags all over the streets?

thoughts?
where did it stem from?
is it making you uncomfortable? (It is, me, but not entirely sure why)

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SanityLeftTheChat · 28/08/2025 14:53

LimeBasilandManderin · 28/08/2025 14:49

The racist, knuckle dragging football hooligan types do seem to favour the St George’s over the UJ

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So are the Scottish and Welsh knuckle daggers for favouring their own flag over the Union Jack?

IMustDoMoreExercise · 28/08/2025 14:52

SanityLeftTheChat · 28/08/2025 14:50

  1. I don't have a willy should should I swing my flaps about?
  2. I'm not racist just fed up.
  3. I'm not trying to intimidate anyone although it might make them feel uncomfortable if I stood in my garden swinging my flaps about.
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Agree with you and I am brown.

JHound · 28/08/2025 14:52

Obeseandashamed · 28/08/2025 14:44

This is my feeling too. I don’t look ‘British’ according to a lot of the definitions across social media but I grew up flying the UJ for every World Cup, Euros and Rugby WC too! However, I felt really on edge as I was driving through an area that was lined with flags. It seemed my intuition was right as I had somebody whip my car with a flag whilst at a traffic light as though it was supposed to offend me in some way! It didn’t offend me but it sure did scare me and my kids! It’s becoming more and more apparent that the flag flying isn’t about patriotism, it’s about it intimidation and creating an narrative of ‘not being allowed’ to be ‘British’ in your ‘own’ country which seems to translate to feeling like an unheard minority in a country you perceive to belong to you and are entitled to have supremacy status in.

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Same - I am sure most of those throwing up flags would insist I am not British / English so would not feel safe.

Although it would be good if we could reclaim the flag.

SanityLeftTheChat · 28/08/2025 14:50

Catpiece · 28/08/2025 13:59

It’s the Willy-waving racists who seem to think it’s good to try to intimidate others. It’s going to end in civil war here.

  1. I don't have a willy should should I swing my flaps about?
  2. I'm not racist just fed up.
  3. I'm not trying to intimidate anyone although it might make them feel uncomfortable if I stood in my garden swinging my flaps about.
Millytante · 28/08/2025 14:50

CurlewKate · 28/08/2025 14:05

Always lots of naivety-false or otherwise-on threads like these….

I did wonder!
There was an enquiry in that main one, involving the bullish neighbour, which blithely declared she had always loved the gay and cheery atmosphere in Belfast, where whole streets proudly displayed their flags.

Well, feck me pink, sez I to meself.

IMustDoMoreExercise · 28/08/2025 14:50

Catpiece · 28/08/2025 13:59

It’s the Willy-waving racists who seem to think it’s good to try to intimidate others. It’s going to end in civil war here.

No it isn't. Most people are not racists, they are just fed up, as am I and I am brown.

Hopefully the government will listen otherwise we will get Nigel Farage as PM.

LimeBasilandManderin · 28/08/2025 14:49

smoulderingmould · 28/08/2025 14:46

I do feel the UJ is not as intimidating as the English flag, is that a common feeling?

The racist, knuckle dragging football hooligan types do seem to favour the St George’s over the UJ

smoulderingmould · 28/08/2025 14:46

I do feel the UJ is not as intimidating as the English flag, is that a common feeling?

Obeseandashamed · 28/08/2025 14:44

JHound · 28/08/2025 14:28

I don’t have an issue with England being festooned in England flags.
I love world / Euro cup time with all the flags.

However the intent behind the current influx seems more hostile. I would not feel safe living in a neighbourhood where this was happening.

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This is my feeling too. I don’t look ‘British’ according to a lot of the definitions across social media but I grew up flying the UJ for every World Cup, Euros and Rugby WC too! However, I felt really on edge as I was driving through an area that was lined with flags. It seemed my intuition was right as I had somebody whip my car with a flag whilst at a traffic light as though it was supposed to offend me in some way! It didn’t offend me but it sure did scare me and my kids! It’s becoming more and more apparent that the flag flying isn’t about patriotism, it’s about it intimidation and creating an narrative of ‘not being allowed’ to be ‘British’ in your ‘own’ country which seems to translate to feeling like an unheard minority in a country you perceive to belong to you and are entitled to have supremacy status in.

Shellyash · 28/08/2025 14:40

I love them. It does make me realise that there is an underlying animosity towards wokism though. And the next elections will show what the country is really actually feeling about immigration. And yes, illegal and legal immigration is all bundled together in the same pot.

smoulderingmould · 28/08/2025 14:37

Just seen some UJs on my way home from work.

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Elephant9 · 28/08/2025 14:37

EchoedSilence · 28/08/2025 14:08

Have you not been on MN for the last week?

I haven’t actually 😅 sorry!!

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mutinyonthetwix · 28/08/2025 14:36
  • there's nothing wrong with showing pride in your country
  • yeah but the English flag has been coopted by far right
  • what about [insert country]'s flag being up in [insert country]
  • Birmingham Council
  • St George was Turkish akshually

Think that about covers the umpteen threads so far.

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Elephant9 · 28/08/2025 14:36

2dogsandabudgie · 28/08/2025 14:32

I think you're a bit late to the party OP, this has been done to death on here now.

Sorry 😣

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Elephant9 · 28/08/2025 14:35

A couple people have said it’s nice for people to display their national flag.. what if other people whose motherlands are not UK were displaying theirs, would that be ok?
playing devils advocate that’s all

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Elephant9 · 28/08/2025 14:35

MyGreyStork · 28/08/2025 14:12

Is it racist to hang your national flag with pride? No. But the racists are weaponising it to express hate against foreigners and non nationals. That is their intent. So anyone that does this is going to appear racist.

This was my thought.
my kid loves seeing the flags.. but I know the underlying reason it’s happening isn’t a positive one?

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2dogsandabudgie · 28/08/2025 14:32

I think you're a bit late to the party OP, this has been done to death on here now.

rockstarshoes · 28/08/2025 14:29

Why don’t you have a search across Mumsnet for a thread about flags? We have had about 50 of them since Saturday, to the point it’s been suggested that they have their own Board.

You will find lots of varied opinions!

JHound · 28/08/2025 14:28

Elephant9 · 28/08/2025 13:46

Just a chat to understand what’s going on with the influx of England and UJ flags all over the streets?

thoughts?
where did it stem from?
is it making you uncomfortable? (It is, me, but not entirely sure why)

I don’t have an issue with England being festooned in England flags.
I love world / Euro cup time with all the flags.

However the intent behind the current influx seems more hostile. I would not feel safe living in a neighbourhood where this was happening.

Millytante · 28/08/2025 14:27

Dahling, hadn’t you heard? It’s ‘Shankill ✊🏼Chic’ this season in all the best places.

R0ckandHardPlace · 28/08/2025 14:22

It’s not just the flag flying, it’s the daubing of paint all over the roads. It looks atrocious and our overstretched, bankrupt councils can ill-afford to repair the damage. They need locking up, the absolute cretins.

BallerinaRadio · 28/08/2025 14:20

Racists are putting flags on lampposts.

That's the shortest version.

KnickerlessParsons · 28/08/2025 14:16

blackbunny · 28/08/2025 14:08

Don’t kid yourself it’s because everyone feels patriotic all of a sudden.
It’s sinister.

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I'm not. The point I was trying to make is that patriotic people should be allowed to fly the national flag of the country they live in, along with organisations. Every other country in the world does.

In fact the more the flag is flown for "nice" reasons, the less impact it would have if flown for nefarious reasons.

Wishing14 · 28/08/2025 14:15

There are two options and two options only. Either 1) You state that every single flag has been put up by racists who want to intimidate non-white people OR 2) You consider that the reasons are complex and multifaceted, warranting debate, conversations, action and unity.
But, be warned, if you take the second option you are a misinformed idiot, and also a racist. And in fact, we should despise and mock you.

Catpiece · 28/08/2025 14:13

MyGreyStork · 28/08/2025 14:12

Is it racist to hang your national flag with pride? No. But the racists are weaponising it to express hate against foreigners and non nationals. That is their intent. So anyone that does this is going to appear racist.

Yes. That’s what I meant in my post x

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