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Elephant9 · 28/08/2025 13:46

Just a chat to understand what’s going on with the influx of England and UJ flags all over the streets?

thoughts?
where did it stem from?
is it making you uncomfortable? (It is, me, but not entirely sure why)

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R0ckandHardPlace · 30/08/2025 16:43

DontGoJasonWaterfalls · 30/08/2025 13:59

I believe they are given basic phones and a small phone / WiFi package.

That's because everything they need to do in order to follow the correct channels, seek asylum and remain in the country are computer or phone based, rather than paper forms etc. How are they supposed to complete those obligations without a phone?

I'm sure they all have far more pressing matters to attend to than posting on Mumsnet.

I saw a government post this week stating that it’s a myth that we give them phones. It’s asylum charities that provide them, not the taxpayer.

@MyFoodBillHasGoneUpAgain You are very typical of a UK public who sees a couple of bad apples, and extrapolates their wrongdoing to taint an entire demographic. The facts are there.

These ‘luxury’ hotel rooms have been stripped of facilities and had three extra beds stuck in there. I’m not sure how hard up you’d have to be yourself to describe a Travelodge with no TV as “luxurious”.

They get £9 a day for food, clothes, toiletries, phone top ups, transport, haircuts etc. That is NOT a luxury lifestyle. It’s poverty. These are facts, easily verifiable facts.

If some toe-rag is crammed into a room full of designer goods then he’s obviously obtained them by nefarious means and should face the full force of the law.

But using that anger against entirely innocent people who have done no wrong, and are living an absolute dog’s life in limbo in awful conditions waiting for their asylum application to be dealt with is cruel, unfair and really stupid. There are far more asylum seekers who take their own lives than rich ones poncing of the government.

It’s the same as fucking idiots who see a person on PIP going on holiday, and declare that all disabled people are scamming fraudsters and resent their meagre benefits. It’s a vile trait that makes me feel ashamed to be British.

SleeplessInWherever · 30/08/2025 16:39

SeptaUnellasBell · 30/08/2025 16:32

I’m asking you, someone who is so vocal in what you think is right or wrong, to tell us all what you did when thousands of little white British girls up and down the country, were being groomed, raped vaginally, orally and anally, trafficked, threatened (along with their families), tortured and inpregnated for being white working class - sub-human in the eyes of the groups of Pakistani Muslims with the full support of their wives who knew all about it. Little girls who were not protected by police, the local governments or other authorities because of ‘cohesion’ and a fear of being labelled racist. What did you come and say then? What did you say when the Jay report was released in 2014?

What did any of you, who are throwing strops about flags, do then?

Honest answer?

Nothing. I was 23 in 2013, obviously therefore 24 in 2014.

At that age, I didn’t know where Rotherham was, nevermind anything that went on there. The whole thing will have gone directly over my head.

I can’t recall what I was doing at 23, working in a call centre I think. Possibly. But I know I wasn’t watching the news.

TwilightAb · 30/08/2025 16:36

TheNoonBell · 28/08/2025 14:02

I think they look great. Nice to see them flown outside of sporting events for a change.

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If they are being flown all the time then great. But we know the reason they are being flown is not to show patriotism but to intimidate anyone that they feel aren't English. The flags aren't the problem but the reason behind flying them is a massive and escalating problem

SleeplessInWherever · 30/08/2025 16:34

yellowspanner · 30/08/2025 16:33

I'm interested in your sarcastic comment "do the look not British". Are you assuming that all zBritish people look the same or are white. ?
Now that is definitely racist

How do you know they’re groups of asylum seekers if you’re not doing it based on sight. Have you asked them all?

I didn’t say not white. I said looking non British. Because you’ve established they’re asylum seekers.

yellowspanner · 30/08/2025 16:33

I'm interested in your sarcastic comment "do the look not British". Are you assuming that all zBritish people look the same or are white. ?
Now that is definitely racist

SeptaUnellasBell · 30/08/2025 16:32

SleeplessInWherever · 30/08/2025 16:23

I don’t need a congratulations, I need people like you to stop making out it’s a general working class view when it isn’t, and stop implying those of us that don’t agree are class traitors, or other such nonsense.

I’m asking you, someone who is so vocal in what you think is right or wrong, to tell us all what you did when thousands of little white British girls up and down the country, were being groomed, raped vaginally, orally and anally, trafficked, threatened (along with their families), tortured and inpregnated for being white working class - sub-human in the eyes of the groups of Pakistani Muslims with the full support of their wives who knew all about it. Little girls who were not protected by police, the local governments or other authorities because of ‘cohesion’ and a fear of being labelled racist. What did you come and say then? What did you say when the Jay report was released in 2014?

What did any of you, who are throwing strops about flags, do then?

ilovesooty · 30/08/2025 16:32

Asylum seekers are not illegal immigrants until their claims are processed and refused.

And I don't live in a middle class area / bubble miles away from hotels housing asylum seekers.

SleeplessInWherever · 30/08/2025 16:32

yellowspanner · 30/08/2025 16:31

Yes, they approach people and ask for money

Terrifying.

yellowspanner · 30/08/2025 16:31

Yes, they approach people and ask for money

CherrieTomaties · 30/08/2025 16:29

I’m English and I think they look shit.

They’re cheaply made (from abroad), shit flimsy quality and are tied poorly with string and cable-ties, all wonky, by people who aren’t true patriots. These people don’t respect British Values (they won’t even know what the British Values are). These people want to intimidated non-white people to feel superior and important but hide behind the “we’re against illegal immigrants” narrative.

They also want to “protect women and children” yet they couldn’t give a shit when it was the Women’s Euros. Hardly saw any St George’s crosses a few weeks ago when we won. They slated women’s football. They don’t give 2 shits about women and girls.

SleeplessInWherever · 30/08/2025 16:28

yellowspanner · 30/08/2025 16:27

I live near what used to be a pleasant, busy market town. I no longer go there because I don't feel safe. There are a lot of small groups of asylum seekers (illegal immigrants) hanging around. They live in the hotel on the Main Street. They look threatening.
As a result most of the people I know now shop, meet, drink coffee etc in a place further away in the opposite direction which doesn't have illegal immigrants houses in a hotel.
The main town is struggling. Shops and coffee shops empty.
If you want to call me a racist, then fine.
But I have a right not to feel threatened in my local town. It no longer feels friendly and welcoming.
All the middle classes on here who live in the left wing wokish bubble should try living near my town

Have they done anything, or are they just standing around looking not British?

yellowspanner · 30/08/2025 16:27

I live near what used to be a pleasant, busy market town. I no longer go there because I don't feel safe. There are a lot of small groups of asylum seekers (illegal immigrants) hanging around. They live in the hotel on the Main Street. They look threatening.
As a result most of the people I know now shop, meet, drink coffee etc in a place further away in the opposite direction which doesn't have illegal immigrants houses in a hotel.
The main town is struggling. Shops and coffee shops empty.
If you want to call me a racist, then fine.
But I have a right not to feel threatened in my local town. It no longer feels friendly and welcoming.
All the middle classes on here who live in the left wing wokish bubble should try living near my town

SleeplessInWherever · 30/08/2025 16:23

SeptaUnellasBell · 30/08/2025 16:20

Ahh well done! Did you manage to get out unscathed unlike many of us?! Please, do tell me - what did your campaigning look like for all of us, not so lucky? Or did you just keep your mouth shut?

I don’t need a congratulations, I need people like you to stop making out it’s a general working class view when it isn’t, and stop implying those of us that don’t agree are class traitors, or other such nonsense.

SeptaUnellasBell · 30/08/2025 16:20

SleeplessInWherever · 30/08/2025 16:17

Middle class bubble 😂

As above. I grew up on a council estate in North East England. Zero silver spoons in this mouth.

What’s the matter, never met a working class person who doesn’t share your views? News alert - We exist.

Ahh well done! Did you manage to get out unscathed unlike many of us?! Please, do tell me - what did your campaigning look like for all of us, not so lucky? Or did you just keep your mouth shut?

SanityLeftTheChat · 30/08/2025 16:19

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I'll use the same line as you shall I? That doesn't happen where I live. But you won't believe that will you. I'm sure you'll change your tune once it's on your doorstep. Insulting my appearance purely based on your opinion of me being a racist is very childish and typical hateful lefty when you don't get your own way.

CurlewKate · 30/08/2025 16:18

There were young men in the Main Street of our small market town (where the only non white people are one of the GPs and the owners and workers in the Chinese and Indian restaurants) waving St George’s flags and chanting “Seig Heil”. Can’t see why anyone would find that remotely alarming. They were only protecting our women and children from a middle aged GP, and some restaurant owners and workers..

SleeplessInWherever · 30/08/2025 16:17

SeptaUnellasBell · 30/08/2025 16:15

I live Barnsley. I grew up in the 90’s and early 00’s in Rotherham. Yeah, that Rotherham. Shall I tell you how that went in great detail or would you rather live in your middle class bubble, with your middle class beliefs and your champagne socialist parties, pretending that all that didn’t happen or that it isn’t still happening? It’s a shame that a fucking St George’s flag wasn’t the only thing I had to feel ‘uncomfortable’ about growing up. But you flap about a flag like the good little virtue signaller the government wants you to be.

Middle class bubble 😂

As above. I grew up on a council estate in North East England. Zero silver spoons in this mouth.

What’s the matter, never met a working class person who doesn’t share your views? News alert - We exist.

SleeplessInWherever · 30/08/2025 16:16

SanityLeftTheChat · 30/08/2025 16:08

Clearly you live in a nice middle class village that hasn't been shafted by your labour council and used as a dumping ground for thousands of these people. Just because it isn't happening in your town doesn't mean it isn't across multiple towns and cities across the country.

Love.

I grew up in Billingham. A tiny town, basically next door to Middlesbrough, where I lived for almost 8 years.

There’s a school in Middlesbrough that has such high EAL that it’s affectionately known as “Abadingdong” Primary. There are at least 2 whole areas in that one town that are almost fully Asian populated. To the point that a friend who lives in one of them had her windows put through last year, because it was assumed she was one of “them.”

I taught in Stockton. There were 20 kids in my class. 2 of them White British. We took PD days for Eid because there was little point opening the school. We were teaching kids phonics, who couldn’t even speak English yet. Teaching the English for “cow” before we could teach them “c-ow.” Non English speaking parents would come to parents evening with interpreters - often their older children.

Don't assume my background, please. I’ve seen racism face to face, and met racists, they walk my streets every day.

SeptaUnellasBell · 30/08/2025 16:15

SleeplessInWherever · 30/08/2025 16:01

Where do you live?

I’ve never heard of most of that, anywhere.

I live Barnsley. I grew up in the 90’s and early 00’s in Rotherham. Yeah, that Rotherham. Shall I tell you how that went in great detail or would you rather live in your middle class bubble, with your middle class beliefs and your champagne socialist parties, pretending that all that didn’t happen or that it isn’t still happening? It’s a shame that a fucking St George’s flag wasn’t the only thing I had to feel ‘uncomfortable’ about growing up. But you flap about a flag like the good little virtue signaller the government wants you to be.

MyGreyStork · 30/08/2025 16:11

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ilovesooty · 30/08/2025 16:11

CurlewKate · 30/08/2025 16:03

I’ve heard of all of those things. They are always somewhere else.

They're probably all over Tik Tok and YouTube.

SanityLeftTheChat · 30/08/2025 16:08

SleeplessInWherever · 30/08/2025 16:01

Where do you live?

I’ve never heard of most of that, anywhere.

Clearly you live in a nice middle class village that hasn't been shafted by your labour council and used as a dumping ground for thousands of these people. Just because it isn't happening in your town doesn't mean it isn't across multiple towns and cities across the country.

BatchCookBabe · 30/08/2025 16:08

SleeplessInWherever · 30/08/2025 16:01

Where do you live?

I’ve never heard of most of that, anywhere.

You're very lucky.

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CurlewKate · 30/08/2025 16:03

SleeplessInWherever · 30/08/2025 16:01

Where do you live?

I’ve never heard of most of that, anywhere.

I’ve heard of all of those things. They are always somewhere else.