Flags..

See my post above!! ^

You can keep saying that, 'oh but it's fine to fly the English flag, just not spamming them everywhere, like mini roundabouts and the like.' But the left have always complained about the ENGLISH flying ENGLAND flags, (before all of this flag stuff started!) calling them nasty names like bigot, racist, and flag shaggers.

Don't pretend this is not true because it is. Don't backpedal now and say 'but... but, proper England flags on proper flagpoles are OK.' Just don't. Not when the left has been bashing anyone who flies an England flag, ever since I can remember!

I'm not repeating myself again. Fact is, the left have always bashed anyone flying ENGLAND flags. Not any other country, just ENGLAND, because it's sooooo fashionable to bash the English. 🙄 As I said, don't pretend this is the first time anyone has whinged about the England flag being shown, and it's only 'all the England flags on mini roundabouts, and on various signs' that are causing issues.

There are bloody loads of posters on this thread who have explained exactly that there is nothing wrong with the English flag unless you’re using it deliberately to make people of colour feel uncomfortable. But you have deliberately ignored them.

It’s absolutely fine to fly English flags from flagpoles and on private property. Co-opting public infrastructure and defacing it is violating laws and is not. It’s nothing to do with “lefty” politics

this sums it up for me as well

People are not spamming every town’s lampposts with Palestinian flags haphazardly sprayed on mini roundabouts. It’s absolutely fine to fly English flags from flagpoles and on private property. Co-opting public infrastructure and defacing it is violating laws and is not. It’s nothing to do with “lefty” politics.

No. Not having it. Nice try though.

I’ve answered that before, happy to go again.

The Palestine flag being flown in this country represents support for a country where approx 62k people have died in the last 2 years. Almost half of them women and children.

The English flag, currently (not always), is being used by a group of people who also spray paint Chinese takeaways, punch health care assistants in parks, and “protect women and girls” by shouting at buildings.

It is being used by some who don’t do any of those things. But they’re unfortunately lumped in with the definite scumbags described above, because they’re the loudest voices.

They’re not the same. The cause isn’t the same. The Palestinian women and children are being actual persecuted. Our men are yelling at inanimate objects and painting roundabouts. Can you see the difference in severity?

How wonderful and absolutely lovely. 🙄 I wonder if the flags representing dozens of other countries will receive hate and vitriol....???

No, of course they won't. It's just the England flag that gets hate.

Of course it's about the (England) flags. The Left always complain and whinge about the English flying the England flag, calling them bigots, racists, and flagshaggers at every available opportunity. Don't pretend this is the first time 'The Left' have had a problem with people putting England flags up. Never complain about other country's flags though. Funny that isn't it?

Funny also, how no-one has answered the question yet as to why it seems OK (according to 'the left') to fly the Palestine flag, but not the England one.

Well I’ve found out why there’s an Irish flag flying near me, seen a video now of one of the main roads and there is loads of different flags. There’s a local campaign to get the flags of every country up and people are donating flags/putting them up to celebrate the diversity. ❤️

Again - it’s not about the flags, it’s the intent behind spamming them around on lampposts, spraying them on roundabouts and crossings.

The takeover of public property, and the reason behind it is the issue.

Presumably they're flying the England and Union Jack flags because they're... in England and the United Kingdom!? 🙄

Honestly, all this being ashamed of/nervous/angry about people displaying our national flag is just ludicrous!

I’d imagine there are very few people who are “smug” about Palestine, too.

Baffling use of the word “smug” repeatedly in that.

You would be first on a boat out of here.

There is a smug, left-winger near me who flies a Palestinian flag outside her house. No one complains or criticises her. But when English people fly English flags in England that's a problem. Just let that sink in for a moment.

If Putin launched an attack on Britain tomorrow, those smug, sneering 'progressives,' who find the England flag 'problematic,' would be waving the St George and Union Jack with all their might. And they would demand that the very people they despise go and defend them. Well good luck my friends. My great grandfather was twice wounded in the first world war, and my grandfather fought the Japanese in the second world war, but if there was a war tomorrow, I wouldn't lift the little finger on my right hand to defend this island. I barely even feel British anymore. I have no intention of risking my life to defend a country that hates itself, is ashamed of its history and culture, and has completely lost its identity. All the smug, sneering 'progressives' can go and fight. It's their country now.

Your hearts obviously in the right place and I applaud you for volunteering. Thanks for clearing that up

I've been away on holiday the last month but had been reading about the flags craze whilst away. I noticed quite a few flags on flyovers down the motorway coming out of Heathrow yesterday though and also noticed a roundabout in our town painted.

You can just feel the tension in the country at the moment. It's been simmering for a while now.

A roundabout near me has been decked in Irish flags. We are nowhere near Ireland and nor do we have a significant Irish population. That did make me smile, maybe they just decided to get in there first.

The local council say there are 12 actual homeless people in my (small) city. There are far more than 12 people who sit in shop doorways asking for money. Some of them I know which street their homes are on. So no they’re not all homeless , though technically I suppose they don’t claim to be, they’re just wrapped in a sleeping bag asking for money. I get into town most mornings before 7am and I know who’s actually sleeping in a shop doorway and who rocks up mid morning 🤷🏻‍♀️

why do we help? Because I’m sure even the technically non homeless ones have issues and need support. We don’t investigate or interrogate people about their situation. We provide donated food /cooked meals for people who say they are struggling to eat.

Funny really, but in my town of 22,000 people, and all the surrounding villages, and also the 3-4 towns within 5-8 miles, there is NONE of this. A few people flying the England flag yeah (a few who always fly it,) but none of this messy looking stuff. Obviously only happening in certain parts of the country ...

I think it would cheer up the place if everyone flew their own flag. Imagine all the colours we can introduce to our dreary streets if everyone flew their own nations flags. It is a shame that racists and fascists have taken the flag as theirs. I guess they thought no one else was using it. 🇦🇨🇧🇪🇨🇮🇨🇿🇨🇵🇩🇰🇩🇴🇫🇴🇮🇸🇱🇷🇧🇼

You think these are fine? I don't think many are objecting to the flag but honestly this is beyond flying a flag.

I took issue with your casual use of stereotyping. And I'm not quite sure why you felt it fitting to air quote ' homeless '. These people you volunteer with, are they or aren't they ' homeless'? And if you believe them not to be, why on earth are you helping them in your spare time?!

What flag are you comfortable flying?

And can you go to that country and fly the union jack and report back?