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Alice19876 · 28/08/2025 00:49

I got married three years ago. To my husband who is a tradie who works hard for our family while I stay home with our twins who are 18 months old.
I am very lucky to be a stay at home mom and my husband works very hard to provide for us we don't live beyond our means and have one holiday abroad a year and one year in England.
when we got engaged we planned a Cyprus wedding but due to Covid that fell apart and we lost about 1.5k in deposits.
due to this we decided to have a cheap uk wedding in December in a beautiful venue that does packages nothing I don't regret. Now here comes the issue, I'm an only child and when my parents were there during my engagement they was over the moon for me they even offered 10k to get married abroad and I was shocked but so thankful. But obviously due to Covid the wedding abroad it never went ahead. Since we moved the wedding to the uk and it coming a lot more my parents said it was ok the budget was still the same. While we paid other fees. ,then they made changes to the wedding ie the evening wedding food was a basic package but my dad wanted the upgrade to a hog roast which was 1.5k including other changes, my wedding dress they said not to worry so we went shopping for my dress I found a lovely one for £800 but my mom made me try on a 2.5k dress with a 1k veil and extras. But they reassured me, I'm their only child and little girl it's okay. Then added extras as their friends are coming, a harpist which they wanted etc so it came about 10k but we put the rest.

happy wedding and all good until yesterday. My parents informed me the wedding money they 'loaned' me they need back in a year. It wasn't ever a loan and I'm shocked. It's been 3 years and never mentioned once. My dad is taking early retirement this year which I don't blame him but they want the money to go on a cruise. As I mentioned I'm a stay at home mom to twins and also now another baby on the way. Where do I get this money from? When all along for 3 years plus the year before telling me not to worry. I feel sick, I have such a good relationship with my parents so I don't want this to affect our relationship. But I don't have a spare 10k they told me I shouldn't have gone on holiday this year and gave them the money instead but they have never mentioned this before!? If it was a loan it would've been paid back since we first got married. I can't sleep as I'm so worried. Aibu? Do I just take a loan out?

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Rosscameasdoody · 28/08/2025 20:45

Zov · 28/08/2025 16:32

Well yeah, many parents will pay something towards their DC's wedding. We paid a third towards our DD's wedding, her DH's parents paid a third, and DD and her DH paid a third. Around £4K each. If I was to message DD back and ask for the £4K back, she'd laugh. She'd laugh at the ridiculousness of it ... Who DOES that? Confused

As @mindutopia said, it's sometimes best to not take money off ANYone, as they can - and will - use it against you if things go a bit 'wrong.' (And you have a falling out.) They will hold it against you.

One of my friends was in a tiny 2 bed terraced house, and she and her DH had twins, and the house just became too small. They couldn't afford to upsize. So in 2023, her dad said he would give her £85K towards a 4 bed house - literally two - to two and a half times bigger.

He and her mum lived in Spain and had lived there since 2017. He said 'at least we'll have somewhere to stay when we come to visit instead of getting a Travelodge.' Only stipulation was that he goes on the deeds too. She and her DH weren't keen, but needed to upsize, so agreed. (This was early summer 2023.)

BIG mistake.

Earlier this year, less than 2 years after they bought the house, her mum and dad announced that they're coming back to the UK, and are moving in! 😱The dad's name is on the deeds, so he is a co-owner. Now, 5-6 months later he is still there. And her mum too. My friend HATES it, and says they are so intrusive and judgy and nosey, and it's putting a huge strain on her marriage.

Why the hell she let her dad onto the deeds just baffles me! Confused I'd have stayed in the tiny house and just made do!

Edited

If the dad needs care in old age the local authority will calculate his share of the house and apply it to care fees if he has to go into a home. I’d be getting his name off the deeds and pronto before the LA can accuse them of deprivation of assets.

mismomary · 28/08/2025 20:06

You don't owe them this money. This is so ridiculous I am finding it hard to believe.

hannonle · 28/08/2025 20:04

We're the missed calls from your mum about the "loan" or was she calling to apologise?

This is definitely not a loan as you've described it. You spent more at their insistence. If they still insist on you paying, then absolutely do not pay for all of the upgrades they wanted and you didn't plan for in the original budget.

Ratafia · 28/08/2025 19:50

List for them every single expensive item and add-on that they pushed you into having on the promise that they wanted to pay for them. Ask them how any of that could conceivably be consistent with this being a loan.

Do you have texts and messages from that time? It could well be worth looking through them for any references to the money being a gift.

I must say, if as a parent the only money I had actually given towards my child's wedding was #100, I would be positively ashamed even to admit it.

BlaBlaBlaBlaBlaBlaBlaBlaBlaBla · 28/08/2025 19:20

Can you go back through your emails and WhatsApp/text messages to see if the use the word lend or give. Double check that

thepariscrimefiles · 28/08/2025 19:16

BrendaSmall · 28/08/2025 17:26

You’ll have to get a job so you can pay them back!

As I posted in reply to an earlier post saying the same ridiculous thing as you, OP is expecting another baby as well as having 18 month old twins. How easy will it be for her to get a job with a salary that will cover child care costs for three very young children and paying back the so-called 'loan' to her parents within a year?

She doesn't owe them the money. They never said that it was a loan. If it was a loan, why didn't they ask for the repayments to start straight after the wedding, three years ago, when OP was still working and didn't have any children?

ThatRoseBear · 28/08/2025 19:08

Your parents sound awful. I would go and see them and make it clear that they told you it was a gift at the time of giving. Had they told you it was a loan you would not have accepted and would have kept the wedding within your original budget. List the extras that you didn't want but they did and the context around it. They will lose far more than you in this. Let them know if they want the gift repaying what payments you can make ie £10 a week. Don't refer to it as a loan and minimise contact. Enjoy your pregnancy, they should be embarrassed of their behaviour x

TwoTuesday · 28/08/2025 18:40

Tell them to take it off your inheritance. They can't change their mind now, 3 years after they encouraged you to spend the money as if it was a gift.

Superhansrantowindsor · 28/08/2025 18:40

You can book a cruise for a lot less than 10k.
If they wanted the money for surgery then I’d try and give them something but it’s pretty clear this wasn’t a loan and they don’t need 10k for a cruise. Just tell them you haven’t got it.

Onthebusses · 28/08/2025 18:31

Legally it was not a loan.

No contract was entered into and therefore no repayments can be enforced legally.

No court would enforce this as a loan unless there is evidence that it was a loan.
Actions also matter. Do not act as though this is a loan. Tell them you thought it was a gift and it was presented as a gift. Tell them you have no means to pay this back.

The personal aspect is more difficult but they are being horrific doing this and I think you should remind yourself that they are the ones doing that to you and not the other way around. So it is them who should feel bad, and not you.

Iloveacurry · 28/08/2025 18:18

You shouldn’t have to pay them back. It sounds like they gave you the money, then had a massive say in how to spend it. If it was a loan, then they really shouldn’t have upgraded to the hog roast, booked the harpist etc.

Onthebusses · 28/08/2025 18:14

BlaBlaBlaBlaBlaBlaBlaBlaBlaBla · 28/08/2025 18:09

I wonder if you could work out which bits your parents upsized and take it off the total now owed. For example the cost of the original meal was x but your dad changed the order for a hog roast costing an extra 1.5k which you shouldn’t have to pay for.

part of me would be quite bloody minded and pay the whole thing back and minimise contact

Not many people have that option. I've 2K in savings and got it by going without. Anyone asking me for 10K would be very sorely disappointed.

BlaBlaBlaBlaBlaBlaBlaBlaBlaBla · 28/08/2025 18:11

Has your mum managed to get in contact with you on the phone?

BlaBlaBlaBlaBlaBlaBlaBlaBlaBla · 28/08/2025 18:09

I wonder if you could work out which bits your parents upsized and take it off the total now owed. For example the cost of the original meal was x but your dad changed the order for a hog roast costing an extra 1.5k which you shouldn’t have to pay for.

part of me would be quite bloody minded and pay the whole thing back and minimise contact

AnnoyedAsAllHeck · 28/08/2025 18:07

FourIsNewSix · 28/08/2025 12:17

Get a job and pay it back. Don't ever barrow. You sound very entitled and lazy. They are probably seeing you living the high life going abroad. Stop relying on people. I would love to hear the parents side of the story as this is 1 sided. You are lucky to have parents to help you. Start saving and get to work. I bet your parents are beyond disappointed with you for not working either. What happened if your partner left you! You have put yourself in a vulnerable position.

I think your original message before editing was much more fun. Let's keep it visible

Thank you for this! I forgot to look to see what this "person" really wrote.

Sounds to me like it's someone who thinks her children should be her bank because she fed and clothed them for a few years. So, now they owe her. Probably draws up a loan contract if she goes to lunch with one of her children, if there are any unfortunate enough to share her DNA.

BitterTits · 28/08/2025 18:02

Hey OP. You obviously can't possibly pay this back in a year, not least with maternity leave. I would speak directly to them and tell them that if they have changed their minds about the terms of the gift you will begin to pay it back in manageable installments, whatever that looks like. I would also tell them that their sneaky behaviour has fundamentally damaged your relationship and have as little as possible to do with them in the future.

Looks to me as if they've been living beyond their means and see you and your DH as the means to their next cruise. Out of interest, does your DH earn well? I wonder if that's influenced their thinking.

Fuck 'em. If they can't accept gradual repayment, let them try and prove it was a loan in court.

NotbloodyGivingupYet · 28/08/2025 17:55

fruitbrewhaha · 28/08/2025 14:18

Do not say you will pay them back. If you start making repayments it’s accepting it was a loan. This is important.

If there is nothing in any communication that it was a loan they have no leg to stand on.

I don’t see a way of repairing this relationship. If what you say is a true representation then they are fucking awful people who you don’t need in your life.

This, OP.
Do NOT accept or imply in any communication that you owe them ANY money.
Pay nothing.
Do not agree to repaying anything, under any terms.
Check everything they have said to you, make sure they haven't mentioned repayment or loan, and don't panic.
For a loan to be repayable there has to be an agreement between you. It sounds like there is nothing that remotely resembles a contract between you.
Talk to citizen's advice. Ask the question on the Mumsnet legal board.

Whyjustwhy83 · 28/08/2025 17:26

If I paid them anything back at all it would be just for what you choose. Would I heck give the extra money spent for the wedding dress or hog roast. I don't think they can state it wasn't a gift when you were pushed you into more expensive choices. By saying it's fine, your our only daughter, I think it was a gift but now they want to go on a cruise and don't have the money. Seems rather crappy behaviour though especially when you're pregnant and £100 as a wedding gift for your only child is mean in my opinion.

BrendaSmall · 28/08/2025 17:26

Alice19876 · 28/08/2025 00:58

I have they mentioned a £100 gift card in our wedding card was the gift. They said it was never given to us and they need the money to book their next cruise. My husband is also rather mad as we don't have that spare money

You’ll have to get a job so you can pay them back!

AutumnLover1989 · 28/08/2025 17:13

chunkybear · 28/08/2025 14:03

Have they always been bit sly or flaky? Clearly it wasn’t a loan, and fancy deciding, when you’re at your must vulnerable you need to pay it back!!
if be telling them if it is a loan then you’d be happy to pay down the wedding you wanted, you’re not paying for all their mate they insisted come, the hog roast, the extra money on the dress etc, all those things that were their choice! I’d also be telling them that it can’t be this year because you’re pregnant, you had no idea it was a loan until just now, so you’ll need time to get a job or sell the baby (yep I’d joke about that because I’m mean lol!)
I think they’ve decided they want a jaunt because of the retirement and decided you’ll foot the bill off the back of their spends on your wedding - not cool! And as PP have said, just cool it with them, tell
them it’s marred your relationship and you’re extremely upset

This!! 💯

Onthebusses · 28/08/2025 17:11

Objectively what they have done is quite nasty. They have suddenly decided that they want money they clearly gave you back for a holiday. They’ve not cared about the impact on you as a single parent, on their grandkids, and are causing you this upset, which of course it would cause to anyone this happened to.

honeybeetheoneandonly · 28/08/2025 17:08

Even if you could afford it, there is no way you should be paying them a penny. If you loan money, you make that clear when you loan the money and the other party gets to decide whether they agree to the loan conditions or not. They can not change the "terms" 3 years later.
I would not pay just to keep the peace either. They may have financial issues but, if that is the case, the way they are going about this is not ok. The problem is that no matter how this ends your relationship may be irrevocably damaged. You pay and you will resent it forever or you don't pay and they will resent it forever. I know which scenario I would choose though. One thing I would do, though, is to put it in writing (by email or text) that this was never a loan.

I8toys · 28/08/2025 17:01

YANBU this is outrageous behaviour and cheeky fecker territory. They wanted the upgrades to show off to their friends and now you are paying for it.

I would struggle to maintain any relationship with them after this. You don't sound particularly close to them and they never visit you.

Izzywizzy85 · 28/08/2025 16:54

So they dictated what you had at your wedding, revelled in the glory of looking like the big “I am” who paid for the wedding, gave you a shitty gift card as a present and are now claiming they told you it was a loan and demanding it back? Wow! Their behaviour is classless and awful op. Tell them you’re heartbroken that they’ve treated you this was and that you can’t afford it.

BurBurBarBar · 28/08/2025 16:41

I suspect one of them has routinely been overspending (is there one of them that's more spendy/has more access to the bank accounts than the other?). The other one has found out that they don't have as much in savings, or more in debt, than they thought, and they have shat it and are scrambling around trying to work out how to sort things.

But that isn't your fault!

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