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Inheritance dilemma

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midlifesharp · 27/08/2025 18:15

Some context- my SIL (early 40s) is the most useless woman. She doesn’t work, doesn’t drive, is a SAHM who doesn’t do housework or look after children. She doesn’t read books or watch films or have any kind of hobby or inner life. Fortunately for her she was born extremely beautiful and has had people looking after and supporting her her whole life. I actually don’t dislike her (I realise I sound like I do!) because she’s not usually unkind or cruel- she’s just boring, a bit self centred, helpless and unable to do anything for herself.

The problem- MIL is dying. She has 3 children- my DH, SIL and my lovely BIL. MIL lives abroad with her sister as the temperature helped her degenerative condition, but recently things have got worse and she’s going into hospice care. She’s moving out of her house and sorting out all her possessions before she goes. She has a lot of lovely jewellery and paintings and arty things that she’s collected over the years and wanted to arrange everything before she goes into hospice so we’re not having to deal with the house and possessions as well as her dying when we fly out.

She asked me to set up a family call so they could discuss and agree in advance who gets what so she can have things boxed and parcelled up as appropriate. I set up a zoom call and sent the details to everyone. I even messaged SIL separately to check that she had the details and crucially knew how to join the call (either download the app or join in her browser.) Then, after worrying about it some more I sent her the link to the app in the App Store, some clear instructions and suggested she practice beforehand.

Obviously at the time of the call she wasn’t able to get it to work having not done anything before hand. My 80+ MIL and her sister managed just fine but apparently it was beyond SIL. MIL was extremely disappointed and just texted her that we’d go ahead without her and hope that she was able to join. She eventually got her 10 year old son to sort it and joined 35 mins late. She was utterly furious to find out that we’d started without her and that the jewellery had already been discussed. Just to be clear- she got most of the jewellery. MIL still gave her many items that she knew she liked but there were a couple of pieces that MIL gave to me and to BIL’s wife. SIL’s not totally crass so didn’t say anything to her mum, but she did call me up afterwards to say she was shocked that she wasn’t getting all the jewellery as the only daughter, that it wasn’t fair because she wasn’t on the call, and that she expected me and BILs wife to give her the pieces MIL had said were for us.

DH told her to do one (in a more polite way). It turned into a big row and he suggested that she call up mum if she didn’t like it. He also pointed out that she was the only child not to have visited MIL in FOUR years, despite having the most financial resources, support at home and free time. Both myself and BILs wife have visited 1-2 times a year as MIL is lovely and the grandchildren love her and I’m happy to have something to remember her by.

Was I unreasonable to set up the call the way I did? If I’m honest, deep down I knew she’d somehow not be able to manage it. I could have looked into other options. Also AIBU not to give her the items MIL gave me, bearing in mind if she’d managed to join the zoom call I’d be unlikely to have them?

(We’re talking about total value of jewellery gifts to me and BILs wife of around £5k, remaining £50k plus to SIL. Total remaining estate about £500k split evenly 3 ways.)

Finally, before people come on and say how awful everyone sounds, I’ve not touched upon how devastated everyone is and how sad and how miserable this all is. This is simply a post asking for feedback on one aspect.

OP posts:
Notonthestairs · 28/08/2025 11:23

There was no vying.
The MIL made her own choices.

Gloriia · 28/08/2025 11:21

It is unfair for a pp suggest the op has been more of a daughter. She sounds like she has been a perfectly nice dil but that is not a daughter none of us know the true dynamics of the dm/dd relationship.

It is of course up to the mil but what an utterly inappropriate way of bequeathing items via facetime giving relatives the opportunity to vie for items. Just no. Write a will!

SprayWhiteDung · 28/08/2025 11:19

Fleamaker · 28/08/2025 10:33

Of course it's up to MIL who she gives her jewellery to, and if she wants to do it via a zoom call.
But priority should be given to the siblings.
I wouldn't have attended that zoom call, it's between a mum and her children.

Plenty of people come to treat their adult children's spouses as an equal part of the family - when a firm bond of mutual love and care has developed over a long time.

It isn't the default to only ever want to discuss things with your actual children and tell their spouses to go into another room and have no knowledge or part of it.

Maybe she should have only asked one of her actual blood children to deal with it all for her? How about her DD? Or maybe she decided to ask somebody with the equivalent family status instead who would have the ability and respect for her and be bothered to actually help her and do it?

We all know the people who will never, ever make the effort to lift a finger to do anything - but will then complain that "I was just going to do that" when somebody else actually makes the effort and does it.

Notonthestairs · 28/08/2025 11:14

We are not just mothers, we are women with our own thoughts and relationships beyond our immediate family. If we choose to celebrate those relationships with selected small (given the overall estate) gifts then I sincerely hope my children would respect my choices.

Fleamaker · 28/08/2025 11:08

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 28/08/2025 10:38

Even though MIL asked OP to organise and attend the call and also invited her other DIL?

I don't think I would've, no.

It's one of those moments that needs the actual children to organise and attend.

Care needs to be taken not to overstep, it's all part of the grieving process for the siblings.

lazyarse123 · 28/08/2025 11:06

Fleamaker · 28/08/2025 09:49

It wasn't just an ordinary zoom call though, it was a zoom call to discuss a mum's dying wishes etc. which unbelievably started without the daughter there. That's really, really poor.

SIL may be 'useless' or whatever, but she should've been chased up and then meeting started with her. Every family has someone who can be a pain! An inward eye roll and just carry on.

And personally, I would be embarrassed discussing MIL jewellery knowing a sibling wasn't there.

Short of going there and holding her hand what else could op do? It was mil who decided to go ahead with the call until sil caught up.
I actually think sil is fucking disgraceful, her mother is dying and she is just whinging about what she's getting. She was advised to set up a call earlier so she knew what to do. She had a 10 year old there who did it for her why wait until the time of the call. The onus was on sil to join, her mother obviously just wanted to get organised.

Notonthestairs · 28/08/2025 10:54

Fleamaker · 28/08/2025 10:33

Of course it's up to MIL who she gives her jewellery to, and if she wants to do it via a zoom call.
But priority should be given to the siblings.
I wouldn't have attended that zoom call, it's between a mum and her children.

The Op was asked to set up the call and attend.

Presumably because the MIL a) trusted the Op and b) wanted to tell her that she was giving her something.

The MIL has actually made real attempts to be transparent and do this as close to face to face as possible (given at least one of her children hasn't visited for 4 years).

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 28/08/2025 10:38

Fleamaker · 28/08/2025 10:33

Of course it's up to MIL who she gives her jewellery to, and if she wants to do it via a zoom call.
But priority should be given to the siblings.
I wouldn't have attended that zoom call, it's between a mum and her children.

Even though MIL asked OP to organise and attend the call and also invited her other DIL?

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 28/08/2025 10:37

Fleamaker · 28/08/2025 10:33

Of course it's up to MIL who she gives her jewellery to, and if she wants to do it via a zoom call.
But priority should be given to the siblings.
I wouldn't have attended that zoom call, it's between a mum and her children.

Even though MIL asked OP to organise and attend the call and also invited her other DIL?

Fleamaker · 28/08/2025 10:33

godmum56 · 28/08/2025 10:27

the OP was asked to do it and be a part of it and presumably her husband and his brother were OK with it . It sounds like despite her personal opinions, she did everything she could to get the daughter to be able to be involved. Joining a zoom call is not difficult and she could have got help before the call.
Do you HONESTLY think that the OP should have refused the request of a dying woman?

Of course it's up to MIL who she gives her jewellery to, and if she wants to do it via a zoom call.
But priority should be given to the siblings.
I wouldn't have attended that zoom call, it's between a mum and her children.

Genevieva · 28/08/2025 10:31

If the daughter only has a son then was she planning on giving it to her nieces when she dies? I doubt it. There is no particular reason why daughters should get all the jewellery. My engagement ring belonged to my husband's grandmother. She gave it to my husband because she met me before she died and hoped he might like to propose with it. She left other jewellery to other relatives (both male and female).

godmum56 · 28/08/2025 10:30

WutheringTights · 28/08/2025 10:24

Everyone seems to be ignoring MIL’s wishes in this. There’s nothing to suggest that if SIL had been on the call that she would have got everything. MIL doesn’t seem to lack capacity, maybe she wanted to give something to her DILs. I have some jewellery belonging to my MIL that was her mother’s. She wanted me to have it because of the relationship I had with her. I know that she expected it to eventually be passed to my daughter. I wouldn’t hand jewellery that MIL gave to me over to a SIL who felt entitled to it, I’d honour the wishes of the person who actually owned it. No one is entitled to an inheritance.

I also have got jewellery that belonged to my Mil There were no family issues about my having it but I have no kids and when the jewellery was given, it was clear to Mil that there would be none. I just have no idea where people are getting this "jewellery going down the female line" bollocks from. This is the 21st century for goodness sake.

Robin67 · 28/08/2025 10:29

Fleamaker · 28/08/2025 09:49

It wasn't just an ordinary zoom call though, it was a zoom call to discuss a mum's dying wishes etc. which unbelievably started without the daughter there. That's really, really poor.

SIL may be 'useless' or whatever, but she should've been chased up and then meeting started with her. Every family has someone who can be a pain! An inward eye roll and just carry on.

And personally, I would be embarrassed discussing MIL jewellery knowing a sibling wasn't there.

Why should everyone pander to her learned uselessness/ weaponised incompetence. It's no one else's responsibility to chase her up and MIL was happy to start without her. If I were MIL I would be heartbroken that she didn't visit me in 4 years, especially under the circumstances, and that she couldn't even be arsed to sort herself out properly to join the call at the agreed time. Maybe MIL gets tired easily and waiting is actually a relatively big ask.

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 28/08/2025 10:27

I read it as SIL would have made an unpleasant scene when she heard MIL's wishes and either OP or MIL or the other DIL might have been browbeaten into letting Little Mrs Grabby have all the jewellery.

godmum56 · 28/08/2025 10:27

Fleamaker · 28/08/2025 09:17

It's irrelevant how your SIL chooses to live her life.
You know nothing of the intricacies of the relationship between her and her mum.
It's irrelevant how 'close' you feel to MIL.

In this situation your role is to provide emotional support, any practicalities eg assets, money etc should be dealt with by the three siblings.
If MIL asks you I would gently steer her to your DH. It's simply not your place to negotiate and organise any of it.
Step back.

the OP was asked to do it and be a part of it and presumably her husband and his brother were OK with it . It sounds like despite her personal opinions, she did everything she could to get the daughter to be able to be involved. Joining a zoom call is not difficult and she could have got help before the call.
Do you HONESTLY think that the OP should have refused the request of a dying woman?

Robin67 · 28/08/2025 10:24

BoundaryGirl3939 · 28/08/2025 08:48

You said -

Was I unreasonable to set up the call the way I did? If I’m honest, deep down I knew she’d somehow not be able to manage it. I could have looked into other options. Also AIBU not to give her the items MIL gave me, bearing in mind if she’d managed to join the zoom call I’d be unlikely to have them?

You set her up to fail Op. You also say that if she had joined the call, you'd unlikely have the jewellery. So its hers imo. You subtly schemed the call to get her out of the way.

You haven't said anything nice about her. I don't believe its this black and white (SIL = bad, Me = good).

The fact that the daughter has seen her mother is 4 years telks me that there is far more going on in terms of family dysfunction and hurt that SIL just not bothering. Its odd that you would paint SIL in such a light.

I personally would not enjoy wearing that necklace knowing that I schemed to take it from someone else.

And to allow the Zoom call to go on for 35 mins without SIL present is horrible. I suspect she's being bullied.

Where has scheming come from if MIL wants her to have it. Why is OP at fault when both of MILs sons and MIL herself were happy to continue the call without her. Is it possible that the people on the call know the situation better than you?

WutheringTights · 28/08/2025 10:24

Everyone seems to be ignoring MIL’s wishes in this. There’s nothing to suggest that if SIL had been on the call that she would have got everything. MIL doesn’t seem to lack capacity, maybe she wanted to give something to her DILs. I have some jewellery belonging to my MIL that was her mother’s. She wanted me to have it because of the relationship I had with her. I know that she expected it to eventually be passed to my daughter. I wouldn’t hand jewellery that MIL gave to me over to a SIL who felt entitled to it, I’d honour the wishes of the person who actually owned it. No one is entitled to an inheritance.

Notonthestairs · 28/08/2025 10:12

Kurkara · 28/08/2025 09:48

Of course MiL can leave jewellery to whoever she pleases. She can leave it to a cat sanctuary if it takes her fancy.
But OP has said that, if SiL had been on the call from the start, MiL would not have agreed to give OP the £2,500 item of jewellery she has now been promised.

It strikes me as grubby and grabby and I'm surprised at the responses here.

I’d be grateful if you could tell me where the Op says that if SIL was on the call the jewellery would not have been given to the DIL.
I must have missed it.

As far as I can see the mother didn’t “agree” to give the jewellery- she suggested it!

So much disrespect for an older woman’s wishes on this thread.

Fleamaker · 28/08/2025 09:49

lazyarse123 · 28/08/2025 09:28

The only thing op organised was the call as she had been asked to do by the woman who is dying. Presumably her mil knows how her relationship is with her dd. My God the woman is getting a fortune in jewels already and she hasn't bothered to go see her mum. If they do have a tricky relationship she's lucky to be getting anything at all.

It wasn't just an ordinary zoom call though, it was a zoom call to discuss a mum's dying wishes etc. which unbelievably started without the daughter there. That's really, really poor.

SIL may be 'useless' or whatever, but she should've been chased up and then meeting started with her. Every family has someone who can be a pain! An inward eye roll and just carry on.

And personally, I would be embarrassed discussing MIL jewellery knowing a sibling wasn't there.

Kurkara · 28/08/2025 09:48

Of course MiL can leave jewellery to whoever she pleases. She can leave it to a cat sanctuary if it takes her fancy.
But OP has said that, if SiL had been on the call from the start, MiL would not have agreed to give OP the £2,500 item of jewellery she has now been promised.

It strikes me as grubby and grabby and I'm surprised at the responses here.

Trickedbyadoughnut · 28/08/2025 09:48

My gran's jewellery was split between her two granddaughter's and her two DiL's who had been her DiL for over twenty years - and I absolutely support that!

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 28/08/2025 09:40

BoundaryGirl3939 · 27/08/2025 23:48

I think it was awful and horribly cruel to allow the zoom call to go on for 35 mins without her daughter linked in. Id find that extremely cheeky and I'm not surprised SIL was upset.

Im a professional woman, and even I have technical issues with zoom. It was as though you set her up to fail.

Rubbish.

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 28/08/2025 09:32

BoundaryGirl3939 · 28/08/2025 08:48

You said -

Was I unreasonable to set up the call the way I did? If I’m honest, deep down I knew she’d somehow not be able to manage it. I could have looked into other options. Also AIBU not to give her the items MIL gave me, bearing in mind if she’d managed to join the zoom call I’d be unlikely to have them?

You set her up to fail Op. You also say that if she had joined the call, you'd unlikely have the jewellery. So its hers imo. You subtly schemed the call to get her out of the way.

You haven't said anything nice about her. I don't believe its this black and white (SIL = bad, Me = good).

The fact that the daughter has seen her mother is 4 years telks me that there is far more going on in terms of family dysfunction and hurt that SIL just not bothering. Its odd that you would paint SIL in such a light.

I personally would not enjoy wearing that necklace knowing that I schemed to take it from someone else.

And to allow the Zoom call to go on for 35 mins without SIL present is horrible. I suspect she's being bullied.

It's not her SIL's. It's her MIL's.

All the OP has done is followed the very clear instructions of her perfectly compos mentis MIL to set up a call, during which MIL expressed her clear wish to leave some jewellery to the OP in her will.

The SIL was invited to the call and knew exactly when it was. If people suspected she wouldn't join it on time or at all because she's a complete waste of space, so what? The only person who had any control whatsoever over whether the SIL would join that call was the SIL herself.

If, as some other PPs have speculated, the MIL herself didn't believe the SIL would bother to join the call along with everyone else, and this gave her an opportunity to discuss which jewellery to leave the OP without SIL stamping her foot and demanding she gets the lot, but without anyone being able to accuse them of going behind SIL's back, bloody well played.

lazyarse123 · 28/08/2025 09:28

Fleamaker · 28/08/2025 09:17

It's irrelevant how your SIL chooses to live her life.
You know nothing of the intricacies of the relationship between her and her mum.
It's irrelevant how 'close' you feel to MIL.

In this situation your role is to provide emotional support, any practicalities eg assets, money etc should be dealt with by the three siblings.
If MIL asks you I would gently steer her to your DH. It's simply not your place to negotiate and organise any of it.
Step back.

The only thing op organised was the call as she had been asked to do by the woman who is dying. Presumably her mil knows how her relationship is with her dd. My God the woman is getting a fortune in jewels already and she hasn't bothered to go see her mum. If they do have a tricky relationship she's lucky to be getting anything at all.

childofthe607080s · 28/08/2025 09:21

You did as MIL asked
despite your doubts
you offered help and sil was too lazy to prep
ignore her and focus on your mil