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Inheritance dilemma

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midlifesharp · 27/08/2025 18:15

Some context- my SIL (early 40s) is the most useless woman. She doesn’t work, doesn’t drive, is a SAHM who doesn’t do housework or look after children. She doesn’t read books or watch films or have any kind of hobby or inner life. Fortunately for her she was born extremely beautiful and has had people looking after and supporting her her whole life. I actually don’t dislike her (I realise I sound like I do!) because she’s not usually unkind or cruel- she’s just boring, a bit self centred, helpless and unable to do anything for herself.

The problem- MIL is dying. She has 3 children- my DH, SIL and my lovely BIL. MIL lives abroad with her sister as the temperature helped her degenerative condition, but recently things have got worse and she’s going into hospice care. She’s moving out of her house and sorting out all her possessions before she goes. She has a lot of lovely jewellery and paintings and arty things that she’s collected over the years and wanted to arrange everything before she goes into hospice so we’re not having to deal with the house and possessions as well as her dying when we fly out.

She asked me to set up a family call so they could discuss and agree in advance who gets what so she can have things boxed and parcelled up as appropriate. I set up a zoom call and sent the details to everyone. I even messaged SIL separately to check that she had the details and crucially knew how to join the call (either download the app or join in her browser.) Then, after worrying about it some more I sent her the link to the app in the App Store, some clear instructions and suggested she practice beforehand.

Obviously at the time of the call she wasn’t able to get it to work having not done anything before hand. My 80+ MIL and her sister managed just fine but apparently it was beyond SIL. MIL was extremely disappointed and just texted her that we’d go ahead without her and hope that she was able to join. She eventually got her 10 year old son to sort it and joined 35 mins late. She was utterly furious to find out that we’d started without her and that the jewellery had already been discussed. Just to be clear- she got most of the jewellery. MIL still gave her many items that she knew she liked but there were a couple of pieces that MIL gave to me and to BIL’s wife. SIL’s not totally crass so didn’t say anything to her mum, but she did call me up afterwards to say she was shocked that she wasn’t getting all the jewellery as the only daughter, that it wasn’t fair because she wasn’t on the call, and that she expected me and BILs wife to give her the pieces MIL had said were for us.

DH told her to do one (in a more polite way). It turned into a big row and he suggested that she call up mum if she didn’t like it. He also pointed out that she was the only child not to have visited MIL in FOUR years, despite having the most financial resources, support at home and free time. Both myself and BILs wife have visited 1-2 times a year as MIL is lovely and the grandchildren love her and I’m happy to have something to remember her by.

Was I unreasonable to set up the call the way I did? If I’m honest, deep down I knew she’d somehow not be able to manage it. I could have looked into other options. Also AIBU not to give her the items MIL gave me, bearing in mind if she’d managed to join the zoom call I’d be unlikely to have them?

(We’re talking about total value of jewellery gifts to me and BILs wife of around £5k, remaining £50k plus to SIL. Total remaining estate about £500k split evenly 3 ways.)

Finally, before people come on and say how awful everyone sounds, I’ve not touched upon how devastated everyone is and how sad and how miserable this all is. This is simply a post asking for feedback on one aspect.

OP posts:
Brothisbest · 28/08/2025 15:49

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 28/08/2025 15:44

I don't need reminding. That's irritation, not hate.

Bloody hell!!!

Notonthestairs · 28/08/2025 15:45

The mother has made her decision - split the mass of the inheritance 3 ways between her children, 90% of jewellery to her daughter. A handful of gifts to other people she cares about.

Whether the Op likes the Sister is irrelevant to the outcome.

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 28/08/2025 15:44

I don't need reminding. That's irritation, not hate.

Gloriia · 28/08/2025 15:43

'I'm sorry but it seems as though Op has hijacked this weakness and fractured relationship, and enjoyed muscling in on position of the real daughter'

There does sadly seem to be that undertone. The list of criticisms of the sil, the admission that her relationship with her own dm was poor so she'd obviously enjoyed being close to the mil all seem to point to your assessment.

It is sad situation all round and I can only imagine how further things will deteriorate with the death and the funeral. Hopefully the sister who the mil lives with will have all the under control to prevent the need for big family chats including inlaws.

Brothisbest · 28/08/2025 15:42

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 28/08/2025 15:42

Hate is a strong word. She clearly doesn't have much in common with her and has probably been inconvenienced or saddened or irked by SIL's inability or refusal to behave like an adult. None of that amounts to hate.

SIL (early 40s) is the most useless woman. She doesn’t work, doesn’t drive, is a SAHM who doesn’t do housework or look after children. She doesn’t read books or watch films or have any kind of hobby or inner life.

just to remind you @Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 28/08/2025 15:42

Hate is a strong word. She clearly doesn't have much in common with her and has probably been inconvenienced or saddened or irked by SIL's inability or refusal to behave like an adult. None of that amounts to hate.

Brothisbest · 28/08/2025 15:37

thepariscrimefiles · 28/08/2025 15:36

The posters who disagree with you are actually supporting OP's MIL's right to make her own decisions about which members of family will receive her jewellery after her death. She sounds rational and in possession of all her faculties, despite her terminal diagnosis so she shouldn't be treated as someone without the capacity to make her own decisions.

MIL will know her own daughter better than anyone else does and she has left her 90% of her jewellery worth £50,000. She hasn't disinherited her and the rest of the estate will be divided equally between her children. She wants to leave one necklace each to each of her DILs. Why on earth shouldn't she be allowed to do that? SIL will receive £50,000 more than her two brothers do but they aren't complaining.

Disagree with me?

all i have said is that quite patently this Op hated the bones of her sister in law way before this inheritance issue, hence it making me question how accurate this account is

thepariscrimefiles · 28/08/2025 15:36

Brothisbest · 28/08/2025 15:09

@ThatCyanCat when you fight for an OP (who appears to have wandered off) you really do dedicate yourself to the campaign, don’t you?!

The posters who disagree with you are actually supporting OP's MIL's right to make her own decisions about which members of family will receive her jewellery after her death. She sounds rational and in possession of all her faculties, despite her terminal diagnosis so she shouldn't be treated as someone without the capacity to make her own decisions.

MIL will know her own daughter better than anyone else does and she has left her 90% of her jewellery worth £50,000. She hasn't disinherited her and the rest of the estate will be divided equally between her children. She wants to leave one necklace each to each of her DILs. Why on earth shouldn't she be allowed to do that? SIL will receive £50,000 more than her two brothers do but they aren't complaining.

Hotflushesandchilblains · 28/08/2025 15:27

BoundaryGirl3939 · 28/08/2025 11:57

MIL doesnt come out looking well in this. Extremely passive. Perhaps that's why relationship with daughter not great. We don't know the full story.

I'm sorry but it seems as though Op has hijacked this weakness and fractured relationship, and enjoyed muscling in on position of the real daughter. It seems as though she secretly enjoyed taking this jewellery...that's a bit sadistic. And by suggesting that she offers in back to daughter in a trade off for cash is disgusting. Jewellery is sentimental. Thats why the daughter was upset. She felt betrayed you all went ahead without her. It all feels like a power move behind the gushing praise you give MIL.

Wow - this view is so skewed its almost completely divorced from reality. Your personal circumstances are not the same as everyone elses and insulting the MIL is pretty disgusting. There is nothing passive about a woman deciding what she wants to leave to whom and having an open conversation about it so everyone understands what is going to happen.

Robin67 · 28/08/2025 15:19

BoundaryGirl3939 · 28/08/2025 11:57

MIL doesnt come out looking well in this. Extremely passive. Perhaps that's why relationship with daughter not great. We don't know the full story.

I'm sorry but it seems as though Op has hijacked this weakness and fractured relationship, and enjoyed muscling in on position of the real daughter. It seems as though she secretly enjoyed taking this jewellery...that's a bit sadistic. And by suggesting that she offers in back to daughter in a trade off for cash is disgusting. Jewellery is sentimental. Thats why the daughter was upset. She felt betrayed you all went ahead without her. It all feels like a power move behind the gushing praise you give MIL.

Wow, that's a vicious take down of a dying elderly lady.

Looking at your posts I wonder if this is all very personal to you. If you have a poor relationship with your mum, that's your problem. Hopefully it's not too late for you to fix it

Robin67 · 28/08/2025 15:15

SaladAndChipsForTea · 28/08/2025 13:47

The dead aren't here to feel the impact. Mil may feel differently if she knows the fallout when she's gone of siblings no longer talking. Most parents care a lot about the sibling relationship.

It doesn't sound like they will have much of a relationship with SIL once MIL dies either way. I think OP has literally said that in an update

Robin67 · 28/08/2025 15:12

Kurkara · 28/08/2025 11:40

No worries, this is from the very first post on this thread:
"Was I unreasonable to set up the call the way I did? If I’m honest, deep down I knew she’d somehow not be able to manage it. I could have looked into other options. Also AIBU not to give her the items MIL gave me, bearing in mind if she’d managed to join the zoom call I’d be unlikely to have them?
(We’re talking about total value of jewellery gifts to me and BILs wife of around £5k, remaining £50k plus to SIL. Total remaining estate about £500k split evenly 3 ways.)"

Very few things I've read on MN have shocked me as much as this.
It's actually reassuring to know that the reason people are responding differently is because they've missed these details.

I have not missed those things. MIL knew what she was doing. SIL didn't kick up a fuss because she wasn't there. MIL still made the decision

godmum56 · 28/08/2025 15:09

Gloriia · 28/08/2025 13:55

It is about having a facetime call to divide up possessions which is not what usually happens in these sad circumstances.

If that was the best way that the terminallly ill person thought it could be done then it should have been immediate family only, not inlaws and as a dd hadn't been able to join the call it should have been postponed anyway.

Except that the MIL CHOSE who she wanted to be there and it was HER decision to carry on without her daughter. There was no "dividing up" the Mil told people what her decisions were.

Brothisbest · 28/08/2025 15:09

@ThatCyanCat when you fight for an OP (who appears to have wandered off) you really do dedicate yourself to the campaign, don’t you?!

ThatCyanCat · 28/08/2025 15:07

SaladAndChipsForTea · 28/08/2025 14:58

Either way, if I was the DIL and it was left to me, I'd give it to SIL. It might be MILs choice who to leave it to but once she's passed it on to DIL, it's no longer hers and as DIL I'd get no pleasure from an item with so much bad blood.

There's no need for bad blood, though. Not unless the daughter starts trying to make everyone feel horrible about it. And even if she succeeds in coercing her mother and SIL into letting her have everything, there'll still be bad blood because she was manipulative and this wasn't what her mother wanted. Unless bad blood only matters until the daughter has everything?

godmum56 · 28/08/2025 15:05

SaladAndChipsForTea · 28/08/2025 14:58

Either way, if I was the DIL and it was left to me, I'd give it to SIL. It might be MILs choice who to leave it to but once she's passed it on to DIL, it's no longer hers and as DIL I'd get no pleasure from an item with so much bad blood.

I would want to honour my MiL's decisions.

godmum56 · 28/08/2025 15:04

SaladAndChipsForTea · 28/08/2025 13:44

Her mother might have felt different if she'd had a chance at the time to hear her own daughter out.

and if the daughter had turned up on the zoom call (or EVER visited) she could have done.

ThatCyanCat · 28/08/2025 15:02

I've heard a number of solicitors dealing with inheritance dramas say that everyone always says it's not about the money, but it always is.

And that seems obvious. If you really, truly judge how much someone loved you by what they left you, then you just have to accept that that's how much they loved you. If it was less than you expected, then that's a shame. But fighting for more won't change that love amount because that'll always be what they chose to leave you. The only thing you stand to gain is more money. You can't change how much love they felt for you when they allotted your share.

SaladAndChipsForTea · 28/08/2025 14:58

Notonthestairs · 28/08/2025 14:24

I am so sentimental about my mother's posessions.

And also

I am not so sentimental as to respect my mother's choices.

It wasnt a conversation. MIL was telling her loved ones the decisions she had made as close to face to face as she could manage. People were invited to listen. Not to carve up property that wasnt theirs.

Either way, if I was the DIL and it was left to me, I'd give it to SIL. It might be MILs choice who to leave it to but once she's passed it on to DIL, it's no longer hers and as DIL I'd get no pleasure from an item with so much bad blood.

ThatCyanCat · 28/08/2025 14:55

SaladAndChipsForTea · 28/08/2025 14:19

She said, manipulatively.

You've deliberately framed that question, haven't you?

If MIL didn't care, she would have just done a will as a directive, not started a (faux) conversation to get peoples thoughts. Unless, MIL, too is manipulative and wanted some drama.

Basically, you won't know how you will feel until you're on that situation yourself. I doubt sil did and its come as a shock. it's a shame you can't expand yourself to consider the emotional impact of certain decisions instead of dealing in cold hard facts.

And now your manipulation extends to calling people manipulative, while continuing the emotional blackmail! Do remember that this isn't my will, yeah?

You've deliberately framed that question, haven't you?

Not at all, what the hell. It's an honest response to your framing. You gauge how much your mother loves you by how much of her jewellery she leaves you, and if she chooses to give a small fraction to someone else, you conclude that she doesn't love you enough. That's your framing, not mine.

But if you are telling the truth when you say you don't care about the value and only about how much love it shows, the very obvious and honest next question is: so why start doing an emotive, manipulative "as a mother why do you hurt me" and "I will cause a fallout after you die" schtick? Framing it as how much your mother loves you rather than a respect for her wishes and the role her DIL also played in her life? You've still got over 90% of it, ffs.

If she gives you more after that, it's not a sign of more love, it's a sign that you emotionally manipulated her into it, because she already showed what she truly wanted to do. So if all you care about is love and sentiment, why would that comfort you?

Brothisbest · 28/08/2025 14:54

Notonthestairs · 28/08/2025 14:50

What is unpleasant is telling your dying mother that she hasn't given you enough of her possessions to keep you happy.
What the fuck indeed.

My point is, given the poisonous way the op describes her SIL… I doubt the veracity of this version

Notonthestairs · 28/08/2025 14:50

What is unpleasant is telling your dying mother that she hasn't given you enough of her possessions to keep you happy.
What the fuck indeed.

childofthe607080s · 28/08/2025 14:46

I go used if I had helped take care of some one when their own daughter couldn’t be bothered then I suspect I would have a strong dislike of the daughter

Brothisbest · 28/08/2025 14:34

Gloriia · 28/08/2025 14:29

Yes her thoughts on the sil are so judgemental and very unpleasant that it does make you wonder what is the other side of this story.

Agreed

I mean, that comment is just so so horrible

and to actually say the woman has no “inner life”. What the fuck.

Gloriia · 28/08/2025 14:29

Brothisbest · 28/08/2025 14:26

But the hatred and disrespect this op has for the SIL literally drips like poison from the Op.

How the heck are we meant to take the OP’s version of this event as remotely being accurate

Yes her thoughts on the sil are so judgemental and very unpleasant that it does make you wonder what is the other side of this story.