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Inheritance dilemma

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midlifesharp · 27/08/2025 18:15

Some context- my SIL (early 40s) is the most useless woman. She doesn’t work, doesn’t drive, is a SAHM who doesn’t do housework or look after children. She doesn’t read books or watch films or have any kind of hobby or inner life. Fortunately for her she was born extremely beautiful and has had people looking after and supporting her her whole life. I actually don’t dislike her (I realise I sound like I do!) because she’s not usually unkind or cruel- she’s just boring, a bit self centred, helpless and unable to do anything for herself.

The problem- MIL is dying. She has 3 children- my DH, SIL and my lovely BIL. MIL lives abroad with her sister as the temperature helped her degenerative condition, but recently things have got worse and she’s going into hospice care. She’s moving out of her house and sorting out all her possessions before she goes. She has a lot of lovely jewellery and paintings and arty things that she’s collected over the years and wanted to arrange everything before she goes into hospice so we’re not having to deal with the house and possessions as well as her dying when we fly out.

She asked me to set up a family call so they could discuss and agree in advance who gets what so she can have things boxed and parcelled up as appropriate. I set up a zoom call and sent the details to everyone. I even messaged SIL separately to check that she had the details and crucially knew how to join the call (either download the app or join in her browser.) Then, after worrying about it some more I sent her the link to the app in the App Store, some clear instructions and suggested she practice beforehand.

Obviously at the time of the call she wasn’t able to get it to work having not done anything before hand. My 80+ MIL and her sister managed just fine but apparently it was beyond SIL. MIL was extremely disappointed and just texted her that we’d go ahead without her and hope that she was able to join. She eventually got her 10 year old son to sort it and joined 35 mins late. She was utterly furious to find out that we’d started without her and that the jewellery had already been discussed. Just to be clear- she got most of the jewellery. MIL still gave her many items that she knew she liked but there were a couple of pieces that MIL gave to me and to BIL’s wife. SIL’s not totally crass so didn’t say anything to her mum, but she did call me up afterwards to say she was shocked that she wasn’t getting all the jewellery as the only daughter, that it wasn’t fair because she wasn’t on the call, and that she expected me and BILs wife to give her the pieces MIL had said were for us.

DH told her to do one (in a more polite way). It turned into a big row and he suggested that she call up mum if she didn’t like it. He also pointed out that she was the only child not to have visited MIL in FOUR years, despite having the most financial resources, support at home and free time. Both myself and BILs wife have visited 1-2 times a year as MIL is lovely and the grandchildren love her and I’m happy to have something to remember her by.

Was I unreasonable to set up the call the way I did? If I’m honest, deep down I knew she’d somehow not be able to manage it. I could have looked into other options. Also AIBU not to give her the items MIL gave me, bearing in mind if she’d managed to join the zoom call I’d be unlikely to have them?

(We’re talking about total value of jewellery gifts to me and BILs wife of around £5k, remaining £50k plus to SIL. Total remaining estate about £500k split evenly 3 ways.)

Finally, before people come on and say how awful everyone sounds, I’ve not touched upon how devastated everyone is and how sad and how miserable this all is. This is simply a post asking for feedback on one aspect.

OP posts:
godmum56 · 27/08/2025 19:28

sandyhappypeople · 27/08/2025 19:26

She asked me to set up a family call so they could discuss and agree in advance who gets what so she can have things boxed and parcelled up as appropriate.

This is all good OP, you've done nothing wrong, and you saw it through exactly as you should, but to be honest discussing this face to face without putting anything in writing is a recipe for disaster, people misremember or could pretend it wasn't what was said on the day and cause big problems as a time when you want everything to run as smoothly as possible.

We did a similar thing with my mum, who had very little to be honest but we all talked and then my mum drew up a letter and gave all us children a copy detailing the things she wanted us to have upon her death, and any other specific things she wanted to happen.. it doesn't have to be done by a solicitor, an email would do, as long as everyone gets a copy. But if any arguments start up you can refer back to the email/letter to iron them out, no wiggle room in that at all.

She had also given us each somethings before she died which was another way of ensuring everyone got what she wanted us to have.

Try and keep your personal feelings out of all of this if you can, all the stuff about SIL being useless etc is an explanation but isn't going to be helpful in the grand scheme of things.

this OP. All of this.

godmum56 · 27/08/2025 19:27

midlifesharp · 27/08/2025 19:20

@Tracklement I didn’t report your post! I posted on Mumsnet and I’m tough enough to cope. It did make me think that I’m perhaps not being truthful with myself about the fact I say that I don’t dislike SIL when it’s becoming clear that in fact I can’t stand her. 😀

no, I think "don't dislike" is fair enough. You don't bad mouth her or try and influence others in the family about her and presumably when (if) you meet, you are polite.

sandyhappypeople · 27/08/2025 19:26

She asked me to set up a family call so they could discuss and agree in advance who gets what so she can have things boxed and parcelled up as appropriate.

This is all good OP, you've done nothing wrong, and you saw it through exactly as you should, but to be honest discussing this face to face without putting anything in writing is a recipe for disaster, people misremember or could pretend it wasn't what was said on the day and cause big problems as a time when you want everything to run as smoothly as possible.

We did a similar thing with my mum, who had very little to be honest but we all talked and then my mum drew up a letter and gave all us children a copy detailing the things she wanted us to have upon her death, and any other specific things she wanted to happen.. it doesn't have to be done by a solicitor, an email would do, as long as everyone gets a copy. But if any arguments start up you can refer back to the email/letter to iron them out, no wiggle room in that at all.

She had also given us each somethings before she died which was another way of ensuring everyone got what she wanted us to have.

Try and keep your personal feelings out of all of this if you can, all the stuff about SIL being useless etc is an explanation but isn't going to be helpful in the grand scheme of things.

KarmenPQZ · 27/08/2025 19:25

shiningstar2 · 27/08/2025 19:10

I was with you until you said that if you where honest you knew your SIL wouldn't be able to set the call up..Her mother is dying and you set a call up in a way you knew would probably excuse her? And because you did that you admit you had more chance of receiving some of her mother's jewellery? Not cool op. Doesn't matter if the jewellery she received was worth more. You set up a situation where, for part of the time, she was excluded from a family conversation with her dying mother. You claim that you love your MIL but admit in your original text that your MIL was disappointed her daughter wasn't there.

Come on. Anyone with a pointy finger can join a zoom call. You literally click the link from the mail and it tells you what to do. As OP said her 10 year old nephew and MIL managed perfectly fine.

godmum56 · 27/08/2025 19:25

Totally team OP. You did exactly as your MIL asked and she decided to go ahead without her daughter. Presuming your MIL knows what her daughter is like, she could have chosen a different method or said that the meeting should wait for her. That is all that should concern you. May I counsel you though to divide off your personal feelings about your SIL from your doing as your MIL asked you to?

Crazybigtoe · 27/08/2025 19:25

midlifesharp · 27/08/2025 19:20

@Tracklement I didn’t report your post! I posted on Mumsnet and I’m tough enough to cope. It did make me think that I’m perhaps not being truthful with myself about the fact I say that I don’t dislike SIL when it’s becoming clear that in fact I can’t stand her. 😀

Yeah. It sounds like you don't like her. It will be obvious to her, and maybe your MIL, that this is the case.

Okrr · 27/08/2025 19:23

PinkyFlamingo · 27/08/2025 19:12

Says who? The jewellery belongs to the OPs MIL who is of sound mind and wants some of it to go to her two daughter in laws, why should her wishes be ridden over? She clearly has a close relationship with OP.

Edited

It’s not going to her 2 DIL, it is going to just 1 DIL afaik

Moveoverdarlin · 27/08/2025 19:23

midlifesharp · 27/08/2025 19:11

That’s good perspective. Thank you. Her pieces came from her travels in a career that gave her access to lovely things so they are all lovely.

Id be interested to see if I suggested to SIL that she reduce her share of the cash to compensate for the extra £45k of jewellery she’s getting whether she would….

I won’t, obviously as I’m trying to be a good person. It’s making me grumpy.

I don’t think any of that should come from you. You are not her equal. You are not a blood relative. If you want a bigger slice of the cash because you give her back a nice watch then get your husband to ask for it.

Coldnightsapproachingwhereismyduvet · 27/08/2025 19:23

Some people are implying op has a decision to make. Fulfill the wishes of a dying woman and keep her items gifted..
Or pander to a sulky adult who is used to getting her own way.
Hardly a decision really is it?
Op would be being disrespectful to her mil not to keep the items..
Team op.

ScholesPanda · 27/08/2025 19:21

YANBU to follow the wishes of your MIL.

However, a lot of the information you've given is extraneous. You still wbu if your SIL was a saint who visited very other weekend.

KarmenPQZ · 27/08/2025 19:20

Every time she raises it just have a stock phrase ready ‘we’re all so upset about MIL we just need to respect her wishes and try to put our upset aside to enjoy the remaining time with her’ or similar. Repeat.

midlifesharp · 27/08/2025 19:20

@Tracklement I didn’t report your post! I posted on Mumsnet and I’m tough enough to cope. It did make me think that I’m perhaps not being truthful with myself about the fact I say that I don’t dislike SIL when it’s becoming clear that in fact I can’t stand her. 😀

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housethatbuiltme · 27/08/2025 19:20

Its not an 'inheritance' if the persons not dead.

Its also not a 'dispute' if the person giving the things clearly said who they want to have them. A 'cheeky entitled demand' but not a dispute.

It's just a living person whose moving giving away some of their belongs they aren't taking with them. I'm in the process of moving and will be giving some things we no longer need to my SIL for her little girl... no one would call that an 'inheritance' and it doesn't really change if your 30, 60 or 80.

Crazybigtoe · 27/08/2025 19:19

midlifesharp · 27/08/2025 19:11

That’s good perspective. Thank you. Her pieces came from her travels in a career that gave her access to lovely things so they are all lovely.

Id be interested to see if I suggested to SIL that she reduce her share of the cash to compensate for the extra £45k of jewellery she’s getting whether she would….

I won’t, obviously as I’m trying to be a good person. It’s making me grumpy.

😲

Check yourself OP. Sounds like you wish MIL was your mother. She isn't .

I wouldn't have taken the jewellery. Because it feels after the above comment like 'take' rather than accepted.

And what if SIL was totally put together and an amazing career woman...

bumbaloo · 27/08/2025 19:18

Do people on here saying SIL should get everything never know women who got things from their grandmother? That’s so peculiar. Many women I know received a special piece when their granny died.

BIL and DH have dds. SIL only has sons. It’s totally normal in my world that grand daughters get given a special piece. i know women who wear something very day that their granny gave them when she died. They’ve worn the pieces for years.

i can’t imagine a scenario where a woman snarls that I want it ALL. How awful

Cherrysoup · 27/08/2025 19:18

Why couldn’t she get her ds to get her on the call on time? I’m glad your Dh told her to get lost, good on him!

Seeingadistance · 27/08/2025 19:17

I would think that the OP’s MIL had already decided who was receiving what, and that she simply wanted to let everyone know in advance. Deciding to give based on who could access a call seems very unlikely.

Oblahdeeoblahdoe · 27/08/2025 19:15

My MiL wanted me to have a ring of hers and made sure I received it before she died, she wasn't dying at the time, just in her 90s. My DSiL didn't bat an eyelid and sees me wearing said ring every day.
Tbf, your DH and his DB are as entitled to her estate including the jewellery as much as their DSis so she should butt out!

bumbaloo · 27/08/2025 19:15

Moveoverdarlin · 27/08/2025 19:06

I couldn’t take jewellery from her. She grew up seeing her mother wear that jewellery, she probably knows a lot more about the pieces than you do.

I know my Mum’s jewellery really well, some belonged to my Gran, some was bought by my Dad for her. I’d be really fucked off of my SIL ended up with it.

Wow. That’s so not like me or my family. I guess we are all different. I know my ds would love to see pieces their mum wore on their partners and dds. Men have sentiment too.

my dd would have no problem. We’ve already all spoken about it.

RedRoss86 · 27/08/2025 19:14

I think it shows the close bond between you & your MIL , that she wants to give you some jewellery, especially the one you admired when you first met.
The fact she remembers that is really lovely.

You were asked to set up call, did so and then took a few extra steps for SIL, none of which were followed.
Your MIL wants you to have those pieces and she didn't just decide that because her daughter didn't show up.

Also your comment about setting your SIL up to fail, no you didnt.
You did as requested, went above what was required TBH, this is all on SIL.
You just know how she is and her personality, you would have probably been shocked had she been on the call on time, as you expected her to be late because that's who she is.

You sound like a lovely DIL & it can't be an easy time for you to know you are going to lose this dear woman soon ❤️ 💐

Mischance · 27/08/2025 19:12

Your MIL has decided what she would like to do with her belongings and that is that. Her stuff, her choice. Just let it lie.

I hope your SIL can resist going back to her Mum and upsetting her.

PinkyFlamingo · 27/08/2025 19:12

Okrr · 27/08/2025 18:56

Honestly, the daughter/daughters normally should expect to get their mum’s jewellery actually. You have your own mother to inherit from. If MIL gave it freely fine, but I think SIL should have first refusal.

I do think the estate money given should reflect that the daughter got 50k in jewels though but I would be conservative about the value.
I would hesitate to value jewellery, it is worth what a solid buyer will pay for it not what it was bought for or what you see online. If it is gold, prices have really gone up and will probably continue to.

If it was all sons, then the jewellery goes to the granddaughters. That is what I have seen and how my family has/would work. That said, some minor bits that my daughter did not want could go to a DIL. It sounds like we are talking about fine jewels not tat. Dad gives his watch or valuables to his son not his son in law.

I would not upset MIL about it, she has enough to worry about but you should let SIL have the jewellery if she wants it.

I am not saying that the DIL shouldn’t get anything say for her wedding, she might get a gift. But this is an inheritance.

Edited

Says who? The jewellery belongs to the OPs MIL who is of sound mind and wants some of it to go to her two daughter in laws, why should her wishes be ridden over? She clearly has a close relationship with OP.

Okrr · 27/08/2025 19:12

midlifesharp · 27/08/2025 19:01

SIL has sons. I have one of each, BIL has a daughter.

(I’m laughing bitterly at the thought of inheriting anything from my mum. Mil Is an amazing woman and has been a far better maternal role model for me than mine ever was.)

This ties it up reasonably then, you can indicate you’ll pass them to your dd one day.
SIL could be thinking MIL felt obligated to offer something as SIL wasn’t there to speak up for herself. Are they what you would class as the best pieces, the worst or in the middle? is it just one 5k amazing item or a bunch of tangled chains?!

midlifesharp · 27/08/2025 19:11

Moveoverdarlin · 27/08/2025 19:06

I couldn’t take jewellery from her. She grew up seeing her mother wear that jewellery, she probably knows a lot more about the pieces than you do.

I know my Mum’s jewellery really well, some belonged to my Gran, some was bought by my Dad for her. I’d be really fucked off of my SIL ended up with it.

That’s good perspective. Thank you. Her pieces came from her travels in a career that gave her access to lovely things so they are all lovely.

Id be interested to see if I suggested to SIL that she reduce her share of the cash to compensate for the extra £45k of jewellery she’s getting whether she would….

I won’t, obviously as I’m trying to be a good person. It’s making me grumpy.

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bumbaloo · 27/08/2025 19:11

dammit88 · 27/08/2025 19:07

Honestly it’s her mum who is dying. I’d let her have the jewellery.

It’s the dh and bil mum too. Don’t they get something of their mum too? Even if it’s for their loved one or dd to wear?