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Inheritance dilemma

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midlifesharp · 27/08/2025 18:15

Some context- my SIL (early 40s) is the most useless woman. She doesn’t work, doesn’t drive, is a SAHM who doesn’t do housework or look after children. She doesn’t read books or watch films or have any kind of hobby or inner life. Fortunately for her she was born extremely beautiful and has had people looking after and supporting her her whole life. I actually don’t dislike her (I realise I sound like I do!) because she’s not usually unkind or cruel- she’s just boring, a bit self centred, helpless and unable to do anything for herself.

The problem- MIL is dying. She has 3 children- my DH, SIL and my lovely BIL. MIL lives abroad with her sister as the temperature helped her degenerative condition, but recently things have got worse and she’s going into hospice care. She’s moving out of her house and sorting out all her possessions before she goes. She has a lot of lovely jewellery and paintings and arty things that she’s collected over the years and wanted to arrange everything before she goes into hospice so we’re not having to deal with the house and possessions as well as her dying when we fly out.

She asked me to set up a family call so they could discuss and agree in advance who gets what so she can have things boxed and parcelled up as appropriate. I set up a zoom call and sent the details to everyone. I even messaged SIL separately to check that she had the details and crucially knew how to join the call (either download the app or join in her browser.) Then, after worrying about it some more I sent her the link to the app in the App Store, some clear instructions and suggested she practice beforehand.

Obviously at the time of the call she wasn’t able to get it to work having not done anything before hand. My 80+ MIL and her sister managed just fine but apparently it was beyond SIL. MIL was extremely disappointed and just texted her that we’d go ahead without her and hope that she was able to join. She eventually got her 10 year old son to sort it and joined 35 mins late. She was utterly furious to find out that we’d started without her and that the jewellery had already been discussed. Just to be clear- she got most of the jewellery. MIL still gave her many items that she knew she liked but there were a couple of pieces that MIL gave to me and to BIL’s wife. SIL’s not totally crass so didn’t say anything to her mum, but she did call me up afterwards to say she was shocked that she wasn’t getting all the jewellery as the only daughter, that it wasn’t fair because she wasn’t on the call, and that she expected me and BILs wife to give her the pieces MIL had said were for us.

DH told her to do one (in a more polite way). It turned into a big row and he suggested that she call up mum if she didn’t like it. He also pointed out that she was the only child not to have visited MIL in FOUR years, despite having the most financial resources, support at home and free time. Both myself and BILs wife have visited 1-2 times a year as MIL is lovely and the grandchildren love her and I’m happy to have something to remember her by.

Was I unreasonable to set up the call the way I did? If I’m honest, deep down I knew she’d somehow not be able to manage it. I could have looked into other options. Also AIBU not to give her the items MIL gave me, bearing in mind if she’d managed to join the zoom call I’d be unlikely to have them?

(We’re talking about total value of jewellery gifts to me and BILs wife of around £5k, remaining £50k plus to SIL. Total remaining estate about £500k split evenly 3 ways.)

Finally, before people come on and say how awful everyone sounds, I’ve not touched upon how devastated everyone is and how sad and how miserable this all is. This is simply a post asking for feedback on one aspect.

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SleepingStandingUp · 27/08/2025 22:56

Notmycircusnotmyotter · 27/08/2025 22:54

I think you're wrong to accept jewellery. That should be passed from mother to daughter (or grandmother to granddaughter). Art, money, property - fine.

No,it should be passed on from the giver to whomever they want to gift it. Ops Mil can give it all to charity if she wants.

Notmycircusnotmyotter · 27/08/2025 22:54

I think you're wrong to accept jewellery. That should be passed from mother to daughter (or grandmother to granddaughter). Art, money, property - fine.

sammylady37 · 27/08/2025 22:54

Mrseasy · 27/08/2025 22:38

Sorry, jewellery should be passed on through the female blood line, from mother to daughter.

The only two shoulds in this scenario are that the MIL should do what she wants with her possessions and everyone else should respect her decision.

Coldtoesinthebed · 27/08/2025 22:53

Hmm is a tough one, mil should have asked one of her children to set up the meeting, you setting it up has definitely put you in an awkward position. However, the jewellery should be going to her daughter IMO regardless of the value there’s an emotional attachment to “mum wore this to that” (as much as I sympathise your mum was maybe a bit shitty is tough it’s irrelevant) and when you say that if she gets it that it should effect the estate is (and I don’t mean this to sound as harsh as it will) is none of your business that’s for her to discuss with her mum and brothers. Her job/lifestyle have no direct impact on how the current situation should be handled

Mrseasy · 27/08/2025 22:52

WearyAuldWumman · 27/08/2025 22:41

Why?

because that’s the only way to guarantee it stays in the family. If given to a daughter in law the jewellery will leave the family in case of a divorce.

DBD1975 · 27/08/2025 22:51

OP so sorry for what you are going through.
MIL has made her choices and they sound very fair. Unless your SIL has a reason for wanting a specific item of jewellery for sentimental reasons, I think she is being very unreasonable.
Tell her to ring your MIL and have it out with her as it is nothing to do with you (in terms of what has been decided).

Notmycircusnotmyotter · 27/08/2025 22:49

SIL is being unreasonable for being so useless but I would be very upset if my mother's jewellery was given away outside the blood family

SprayWhiteDung · 27/08/2025 22:49

Mrseasy · 27/08/2025 22:38

Sorry, jewellery should be passed on through the female blood line, from mother to daughter.

Do you also believe that ancestral estates should only be passed from father to son - and that, if there are 'only' daughters, a distantly related or random male should be found to receive it all?

Edit: sorry, I should have refreshed before posting, as Mrseasy had already made the same point just before!

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 27/08/2025 22:48

Slipperywhipple · 27/08/2025 22:46

This.
I would never accept MIL ‘s jewelry over her own daughter ( SIL)

I would be gutted if my SIL had my mother’s jewelry. Sorry but I would. .

Case in point. It sounds as if the relationships in your family are quite different from the relationships in the OP's family. Presumably you have seen your mother at some point in the last four years. The OP's SIL hasn't seen her mother in that time.

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 27/08/2025 22:47

So many posters on all kinds of threads lay down the law about something - anything from what colours you're allowed to wear at a wedding, whether children can attend a funeral, how often you should change your bedding, to what kind of relationship you're allowed to have with your MIL and how you are allowed to leave your own property. It never seems to occur to them that what was normal in their own family and social circle is not necessarily normal to other people, and this is not a problem.

Slipperywhipple · 27/08/2025 22:46

Complet · 27/08/2025 18:30

It would probably be a bit weird for some people. I would have thought one of the actual offspring would have set up the call and not the partner of one of the siblings.

I have a difficult SIL, but I don’t think I could accept my MIL jewellery and would probably ask for it to be given to her daughter. Death is hard enough for some people as it is without having things you’ve grown up with given to people who didn’t grow up with and appreciate them. Money is a bit different.

This.
I would never accept MIL ‘s jewelry over her own daughter ( SIL)

I would be gutted if my SIL had my mother’s jewelry. Sorry but I would. .

midlifesharp · 27/08/2025 22:46

Gloriia · 27/08/2025 21:16

Agree with this, this all sounds so very crass. Your mil should just write down who gets what, I've never known anyone discuss the items on a video call.

I think all your comments about your sil sound incredibly judgemental and unpleasant. Leave her alone and maybe step back a bit this should be down to your dh to be sorting.

We are all in different parts of the country. MIL is abroad. Doing this by enn email is impossible and she didn’t want her last time face to face with people to be doing admin. I love this about her- she looked at a problem and even at 80+ and unwell she thought of a solution to get everyone together and on the same page. The video call is the latest in a long history of her embracing new things.
It wasn’t just jewellery- art, photos - all the sentimental stuff were distributed to people who wanted it. It was actually very moving and we remembered the stories behind things. She made an offhand comment about why she needed 100 scarves and said they were in a donation bag. They’re now going to DD who wants to make a grandma quilt.

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TriciaA1991 · 27/08/2025 22:45

Mrseasy · 27/08/2025 22:38

Sorry, jewellery should be passed on through the female blood line, from mother to daughter.

WOW! And are you still of the opinion that the house and land should be passed onto the eldest son??

SapphireSeptember · 27/08/2025 22:45

Mrseasy · 27/08/2025 22:38

Sorry, jewellery should be passed on through the female blood line, from mother to daughter.

I don't have a daughter so who's getting my jewellery?

SprayWhiteDung · 27/08/2025 22:44

Inertia · 27/08/2025 22:35

It sounds like MIL has thought very carefully about how she wishes to distribute her possessions, and you owe it to her to respect her wishes, and ensure that she has the peace of mind which comes from trusting that her plans will be followed.

SIL has no right to be furious. I actually think it’s really disrespectful of her to be late for the call. She was given multiple opportunities and instructions about setting up the required technology, but it wasn’t important enough to her to plan ahead and check that she could complete a call with her dying mother.

I agree: she had ample warning as to how to learn/practise or ask a family member to help her - but she simply chose not to bother doing so.

She so clearly demonstrated such a basic lack of respect or care for her own Mother - when it was obviously a very important and significant occasion for her, towards the closure of her life; and then she had the temerity to complain that the vast majority of the jewellery wasn't enough and she should have all of it.

Who on earth does she think she is?

WearyAuldWumman · 27/08/2025 22:41

Mrseasy · 27/08/2025 22:38

Sorry, jewellery should be passed on through the female blood line, from mother to daughter.

Why?

Mrseasy · 27/08/2025 22:38

Sorry, jewellery should be passed on through the female blood line, from mother to daughter.

Inertia · 27/08/2025 22:35

It sounds like MIL has thought very carefully about how she wishes to distribute her possessions, and you owe it to her to respect her wishes, and ensure that she has the peace of mind which comes from trusting that her plans will be followed.

SIL has no right to be furious. I actually think it’s really disrespectful of her to be late for the call. She was given multiple opportunities and instructions about setting up the required technology, but it wasn’t important enough to her to plan ahead and check that she could complete a call with her dying mother.

SprayWhiteDung · 27/08/2025 22:34

GentleJadeOP · 27/08/2025 22:21

Someone needs to tell MIL that there is confusion over who gets what and ask her to put it in writing which is actually the lawful way to do it anyway.

There's no confusion; just one ungrateful person who isn't happy with the lion's share and wants every last item for herself, rather than her brothers or their wives getting any of it.

And it's perfectly legal and lawful, if you own something, to verbally tell another person that you wish to give it to them.

Sadly, the lady doesn't have long left to live; but she is still a living person choosing now to give her possessions to her loved ones. It isn't a will designed to distribute her possessions after her death.

midlifesharp · 27/08/2025 22:34

justasking111 · 27/08/2025 21:43

I know a woman like this once beautiful loosely related. Married an older man had a wonderful life for twenty years. Granny raised the children. One day her husband left her for a very ordinary but intelligent woman.

She went to pieces because she couldn't understand how he could become unhappy with her. There's nothing about her you can dislike but lord she's such a vacuus person, unfinished somehow. she married after GCSEs has never worked . Now in her mid fifties she's still a child/woman who has never matured.

“Unfinished”. What a good way of describing her. There’s potential that was there but after a few mid range magazine covers and catalogues in the 2000s and a few years living in London (with friends who managed everything) she married well and just sort of gave up learning or doing new things. I’m fairly certain she sees her helplessness as somehow ditzy and endearing. God help her if the wheels ever come off.

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ItsAMoooPoint · 27/08/2025 22:32

You didn't set her up to fail and it's up to your MIL to determine who gets what.

I received jewellery from my in laws for my wedding and I love wearing it. It's meaningful and makes me feel truly a part of their family. My placeholder engagement ring was also one of my MILs rings but is cubic zirconia rather than a diamond so not worth much, but I love that she wanted me to have it.

Itchyfeetkeepmemoving · 27/08/2025 22:32

My own MIL specifically left me some jewellery. It was for me, to me from her. We got on fantastically well and she knew I love a diamond. Her own children divided the rest and over my dead body would I not keep her last gift to me.

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 27/08/2025 22:25

CleaningAngel · 27/08/2025 21:52

I have all of the above qualifications, but would be absolutely clueless at how to do a zoom call , not everyone is computer literate

If you can post on Mumsnet, you have all the knowledge you need to make a Zoom call. All you do is click on a link. A woman in her 40s with basic literacy and household members who are good with computers has absolutely no excuse for not being able to join a Zoom call on time.

GentleJadeOP · 27/08/2025 22:21

Someone needs to tell MIL that there is confusion over who gets what and ask her to put it in writing which is actually the lawful way to do it anyway.

sammylady37 · 27/08/2025 22:21

HonestBlueEagle · 27/08/2025 21:55

Tbh I find it odd she gifted jewellery to both her dils and at the vaue of 5k different if it was going to a granddaughter but I would expected it to go to her dd not inlaws.

Why? There’s no convention about this. Ultimately the jewellery at this point belongs to the MIL and she can give it to whomever she wants. Clearly, she values the relationships she has with her DILs and wants to give them something to recognise that and remember her by. Her possessions, her decision.

Funnily enough, the entitled SIL doesn’t appear to think that she as the daughter should be doing the heavy lifting in terms of caring for her dying mother, but nonetheless thinks she should have all the benefit. Tale as old as time.

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