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Inheritance dilemma

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midlifesharp · 27/08/2025 18:15

Some context- my SIL (early 40s) is the most useless woman. She doesn’t work, doesn’t drive, is a SAHM who doesn’t do housework or look after children. She doesn’t read books or watch films or have any kind of hobby or inner life. Fortunately for her she was born extremely beautiful and has had people looking after and supporting her her whole life. I actually don’t dislike her (I realise I sound like I do!) because she’s not usually unkind or cruel- she’s just boring, a bit self centred, helpless and unable to do anything for herself.

The problem- MIL is dying. She has 3 children- my DH, SIL and my lovely BIL. MIL lives abroad with her sister as the temperature helped her degenerative condition, but recently things have got worse and she’s going into hospice care. She’s moving out of her house and sorting out all her possessions before she goes. She has a lot of lovely jewellery and paintings and arty things that she’s collected over the years and wanted to arrange everything before she goes into hospice so we’re not having to deal with the house and possessions as well as her dying when we fly out.

She asked me to set up a family call so they could discuss and agree in advance who gets what so she can have things boxed and parcelled up as appropriate. I set up a zoom call and sent the details to everyone. I even messaged SIL separately to check that she had the details and crucially knew how to join the call (either download the app or join in her browser.) Then, after worrying about it some more I sent her the link to the app in the App Store, some clear instructions and suggested she practice beforehand.

Obviously at the time of the call she wasn’t able to get it to work having not done anything before hand. My 80+ MIL and her sister managed just fine but apparently it was beyond SIL. MIL was extremely disappointed and just texted her that we’d go ahead without her and hope that she was able to join. She eventually got her 10 year old son to sort it and joined 35 mins late. She was utterly furious to find out that we’d started without her and that the jewellery had already been discussed. Just to be clear- she got most of the jewellery. MIL still gave her many items that she knew she liked but there were a couple of pieces that MIL gave to me and to BIL’s wife. SIL’s not totally crass so didn’t say anything to her mum, but she did call me up afterwards to say she was shocked that she wasn’t getting all the jewellery as the only daughter, that it wasn’t fair because she wasn’t on the call, and that she expected me and BILs wife to give her the pieces MIL had said were for us.

DH told her to do one (in a more polite way). It turned into a big row and he suggested that she call up mum if she didn’t like it. He also pointed out that she was the only child not to have visited MIL in FOUR years, despite having the most financial resources, support at home and free time. Both myself and BILs wife have visited 1-2 times a year as MIL is lovely and the grandchildren love her and I’m happy to have something to remember her by.

Was I unreasonable to set up the call the way I did? If I’m honest, deep down I knew she’d somehow not be able to manage it. I could have looked into other options. Also AIBU not to give her the items MIL gave me, bearing in mind if she’d managed to join the zoom call I’d be unlikely to have them?

(We’re talking about total value of jewellery gifts to me and BILs wife of around £5k, remaining £50k plus to SIL. Total remaining estate about £500k split evenly 3 ways.)

Finally, before people come on and say how awful everyone sounds, I’ve not touched upon how devastated everyone is and how sad and how miserable this all is. This is simply a post asking for feedback on one aspect.

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Laxonaweekend · 30/08/2025 18:52

godmum56 · 30/08/2025 18:44

They live in different countries and the OP works.

And?

the op makes out she’s incredibly close to her MIL

then says she visits 1 - 2 times a year

then forgets she wrote that and says I work 4 days a week so have been able to fly out for odd days here and there, found her current house with her, have been coordinating all the medical stuff.**

godmum56 · 30/08/2025 18:44

Laxonaweekend · 30/08/2025 17:24

You’re “really close” to your MIL

and yet you see her “1-2 times a year”

ok

They live in different countries and the OP works.

Laxonaweekend · 30/08/2025 17:24

midlifesharp · 27/08/2025 18:40

I’m really close to MIL. She was wonderful to me when my own (much less lovely!) mother died and I’m in contact with her probably the most. I work 4 days a week so have been able to fly out for odd days here and there, found her current house with her, have been coordinating all the medical stuff.
I do really love her.
She gave me the piece that I admired as she was wearing it the first time I met her.

You’re “really close” to your MIL

and yet you see her “1-2 times a year”

ok

godmum56 · 30/08/2025 12:49

Mum2EmLuJa · 30/08/2025 12:43

Yes I think the same, I wouldn’t expect any of my MILs jewellery and any jewellery I had I would leave to my biological daughter not my son’s wives (btw my kids are still young children so haven’t got any DILs or anything like that)

you would make different choices and thats fine. What the OP did was at the request, by the direction of her Mil who is the person who owns the jewellery. How can there be anything wrong with that?

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 30/08/2025 12:44

I don't know why people think the SIL would appreciate the MIL's jewellery more than the OP. Such an odd remark.

Mum2EmLuJa · 30/08/2025 12:43

Complet · 27/08/2025 18:30

It would probably be a bit weird for some people. I would have thought one of the actual offspring would have set up the call and not the partner of one of the siblings.

I have a difficult SIL, but I don’t think I could accept my MIL jewellery and would probably ask for it to be given to her daughter. Death is hard enough for some people as it is without having things you’ve grown up with given to people who didn’t grow up with and appreciate them. Money is a bit different.

Yes I think the same, I wouldn’t expect any of my MILs jewellery and any jewellery I had I would leave to my biological daughter not my son’s wives (btw my kids are still young children so haven’t got any DILs or anything like that)

thepariscrimefiles · 29/08/2025 21:06

Awalkinthepark1 · 29/08/2025 13:56

If I were SiL I would instruct a contentious probate lawyer. I expect you choose the best pieces of jewellery. I expect DiL doesn’t like you much either. You sound very pushy and very jealous of your SiL. Your MiLs estate and who gets what has nothing to do with you.

As though SIL would have the gumption to instruct a contentious probate lawyer. She can't even click on a link to join a Zoom call.

Her MIL chose the necklace that she wants OP to have. She also asked OP to set up the Zoom call and invited OP and her other DIL to join the call. This was all planned and directed by OP's MIL. OP just followed her instructions.

SkylarkKitten · 29/08/2025 19:39

Some entitled people are never satisfied with anything. If she'd been left all the jewellery, she'd complain about the artwork etc

You did nothing wrong as everyone had enough notice about this meeting. It must have been hard enough on your MiL so well done for sorting that out for her.

Glad your DH told his sister to politely do one. Some siblings never grow up and learn to share

GentleJadeOP · 29/08/2025 19:32

After all these comments I still stand by my original comment. GET EVERYTHING IN WRITING. This sounds like a long winded family dispute about to happen. Believe me it can go on for years. It’s your word against hers

Hotflushesandchilblains · 29/08/2025 18:57

Awalkinthepark1 · 29/08/2025 13:56

If I were SiL I would instruct a contentious probate lawyer. I expect you choose the best pieces of jewellery. I expect DiL doesn’t like you much either. You sound very pushy and very jealous of your SiL. Your MiLs estate and who gets what has nothing to do with you.

A great example of someone who has not read the posts properly and just wants to say something nasty.

I am really seriously wondering if reading comprehension skills are generally in decline.

jan2310 · 29/08/2025 18:53

My MIL was a lovely woman, I loved my mum dearly but she was a terrible mother and my MIL became like another mother to me. She didn’t have much and didn’t make a will, so my SIL as her only daughter took her jewellery, which was absolutely fine. It was her mum.

However I would have loved a piece of her jewellery (none of it was very valuable) to wear to remind me of her. SIL never offered me any, which I’m a bit sad about although it’s fine that she chose not to, although she’s not a jewellery person and I’ve never seen her wear it.

OP, if your MIL offered you jewellery she wanted you to have it. It’s hers to make the decision about. Take it and enjoy it.

godmum56 · 29/08/2025 18:51

whistlesandbells · 29/08/2025 18:36

I quite agree that it isn’t ‘specifically’ what the MIL wanted in the detail of OP sending the emails or texts to set the call. I also think OP did what she felt was right and best. It doesn’t alter the fact that families are difficult to navigate, especially in these issues. If I was OP I would have supported my DH to set up the call, and for him to communicate about it, not me. MIL gets her call and wishes and OP would not become the focal point for SIL. I do believe children should arrange these things for their parents and not spouses.

MIL would also know I support from behind the scenes. In my case, my MIL would know I do the admin anyway. That would be my choice of how to play it. I also think MIL should be able to give to whom she pleases.

According to the OP, Her mil asked HER to set up a group call and to attend it. She did as she was asked and then went beyond that sending extra help to her Sil. I suspect that Mil didn't specifically ask the OP to offer extra help and support to her Sil. I sense (although its not said) that Mil wanted to treat the OP like a daughter. If the Mil had wanted a son to organise it, she could easily have asked a son but she didn't. She asked the OP. I repeat, why should a dying woman not have things the way she wants them?

whistlesandbells · 29/08/2025 18:36

godmum56 · 28/08/2025 18:10

but that isn't what the Mil wanted. Why does she not get to do what she wants how she wants it?

I quite agree that it isn’t ‘specifically’ what the MIL wanted in the detail of OP sending the emails or texts to set the call. I also think OP did what she felt was right and best. It doesn’t alter the fact that families are difficult to navigate, especially in these issues. If I was OP I would have supported my DH to set up the call, and for him to communicate about it, not me. MIL gets her call and wishes and OP would not become the focal point for SIL. I do believe children should arrange these things for their parents and not spouses.

MIL would also know I support from behind the scenes. In my case, my MIL would know I do the admin anyway. That would be my choice of how to play it. I also think MIL should be able to give to whom she pleases.

Christwosheds · 29/08/2025 15:08

SleepingStandingUp · 27/08/2025 18:30

Op I suspect MIL would have insisted on some pieces going to you and DIL regardless given what you've said. Not least because then there's stuff to pass on through all the grandkids, not just one.
Personally if she's got 50k in belongings + 1/3 of the equity, compared to her brother's just getting 5k (by proxy) + 1/3 of the equity, she has no space to moan

Agree with this, she is essentially giving it to her grandchildren via you, and that’s a bit fairer than SIL getting everything.

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 29/08/2025 14:04

MIL sounds very on the ball. She won't have picked an executor who will be bullied into going against her wishes. As for the idea that the OP is jealous of her SIL, once again I wonder if we are all reading the same thread. Why should she be jealous of someone living a life as lacking in interest and challenge as SIL's?

Notonthestairs · 29/08/2025 13:59

Awalkinthepark1 · 29/08/2025 13:56

If I were SiL I would instruct a contentious probate lawyer. I expect you choose the best pieces of jewellery. I expect DiL doesn’t like you much either. You sound very pushy and very jealous of your SiL. Your MiLs estate and who gets what has nothing to do with you.

MIL isn’t dead! She has capacity and has selected particular gifts for loved ones. Your contentious probate lawyer would send you home.

Awalkinthepark1 · 29/08/2025 13:56

If I were SiL I would instruct a contentious probate lawyer. I expect you choose the best pieces of jewellery. I expect DiL doesn’t like you much either. You sound very pushy and very jealous of your SiL. Your MiLs estate and who gets what has nothing to do with you.

Swiftie1878 · 29/08/2025 12:05

All the inheritance stuff aside, I am very sorry that you are about to lose a lovely MIL who you care so deeply about. I hope her passing is as peaceful and comfortable as possible.

My MIL was also a gem. She had three sons, and left a single piece of her jewellery to each of her daughters-in-law, and the rest to her only granddaughter. She loved her DILs and wanted to give them something to remember her by.

jmh740 · 29/08/2025 11:21

Okrr · 27/08/2025 18:56

Honestly, the daughter/daughters normally should expect to get their mum’s jewellery actually. You have your own mother to inherit from. If MIL gave it freely fine, but I think SIL should have first refusal.

I do think the estate money given should reflect that the daughter got 50k in jewels though but I would be conservative about the value.
I would hesitate to value jewellery, it is worth what a solid buyer will pay for it not what it was bought for or what you see online. If it is gold, prices have really gone up and will probably continue to.

If it was all sons, then the jewellery goes to the granddaughters. That is what I have seen and how my family has/would work. That said, some minor bits that my daughter did not want could go to a DIL. It sounds like we are talking about fine jewels not tat. Dad gives his watch or valuables to his son not his son in law.

I would not upset MIL about it, she has enough to worry about but you should let SIL have the jewellery if she wants it.

I am not saying that the DIL shouldn’t get anything say for her wedding, she might get a gift. But this is an inheritance.

Edited

Totally disagree. Why should she get things just because she is the daughter op should not have to give her the things. SIL sounds very entitled. MIL can leave her belongings to who ever she wants noone should expect an inheritance.

GentleJadeOP · 29/08/2025 11:17

The only thing that would concern me is to get it all in writing as it’s a significant amount of money and whoever is executor will need to account for every penny in the event of a dispute, which sounds quite likely. Also maybe inheritance tax due if over a certain amount

user1493559472 · 29/08/2025 10:54

Hi
You are totally in the right Here, the SIL sounds like a real pain, feels entitled to everything as her husband has given her everything.
Stick to your guns, don't give her anything!!
Good luck. As the expression goes, you can choose your friends but not your family!!! Xx

Gloriia · 29/08/2025 10:52

GanninHyem · 29/08/2025 10:41

Sounds like the first to think about relationships should be the SIL who hasn't bothered her arse to go see her mother in 4 years!! The very definition of entitled brat.

Says the op. Perhaps the dd was in frequent touch via phone etc? Perhaps she had reason not to visit. We hear so much about dysfunctional family realtionships, I'd bet a tenner there's a massive back story here.

One thing that is clear is the op cannot stand the dd and the whole dynamic with discussions over jewellery seems very odd and inappropriate imo.

GanninHyem · 29/08/2025 10:41

Gloriia · 29/08/2025 09:58

'It sounds very much as if everybody except the OP's SIL is in harmony, doesn't it?'

It doesn't really, the list of criticisms regarding the daughter's personality for starters. Then the db told his own sister to 'do one'. It's all just so unnecessary and unpleasant. Totally identifying details to so we can only hope the dm and her dd don't come across it.

Belongings should be bequeathed by a will. When there are bad feelings leading up to a death everything becomes magnified. This family need to focus on relationships not jewellery.

Sounds like the first to think about relationships should be the SIL who hasn't bothered her arse to go see her mother in 4 years!! The very definition of entitled brat.

Notonthestairs · 29/08/2025 10:03

"This family need to focus on relationships not jewellery'

Well, quite so. They seemed to be doing just that before the SIL decided she knew better.

Gloriia · 29/08/2025 09:58

'It sounds very much as if everybody except the OP's SIL is in harmony, doesn't it?'

It doesn't really, the list of criticisms regarding the daughter's personality for starters. Then the db told his own sister to 'do one'. It's all just so unnecessary and unpleasant. Totally identifying details to so we can only hope the dm and her dd don't come across it.

Belongings should be bequeathed by a will. When there are bad feelings leading up to a death everything becomes magnified. This family need to focus on relationships not jewellery.

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