Racist Threads

Post yours and let's see if we agree.

In my city there have protests about asylum seekers protect our women and girls etc because of horrible things some asylum seekers have done or been accused of doing. For example Epping By the protesters logic all asylum seekers are danger .so following on from that logic if a university student from Plymouth for example does or is accused the same crime as asylum seekers in hotels then all male university students are danger to local women. My city has a very large number of students (more than one university )these people protesting the ex hotels should be having protests outside the university campus or/and city centre never seen such a protest the number of students studying sociology or history the university would easily outnumber the small number of people living in the ex hotels

There has always been people with racist views. But until recently it was less acceptable to be so open about it times

If you genuinely want to know, maybe start a thread asking why. I have thoughts on this matter, but I won’t write it here—it’s not going to be welcome (I’m American and we’ve been dealing with this issue for … well, a lot longer than you. And ignoring it is not going to go any better for you than it did for us).

If you genuinely want to know, maybe start a thread asking why. I have thoughts on this matter, but I won’t write it here—it’s not going to be welcome (I’m American and we’ve been dealing with this issue for … well, a lot longer than you. And ignoring it is not going to go any better for you than it did for us).

If I say I don't care about any of that but don't want people coming into the UK through unofficial channels - is that racist?

My view is I welcome anyone coming here who has applied and gone through the due process of checks.

I welcome people with skills and education that can be employed.
I welcome those who can work in the NHS or Care Homes with the necessary attitudes and command of English.

I do not believe the vast majority of those smuggled in are valid claimants for Asylum. I think most are economic migrants and should not be able to.just "break in".

If that makes me racist I'm OK with that.

But why is race the one characteristic people are “concerned” about with regards to possible criminality ?

Not sex. Not age. Not education level. Not mental health condition. Not socio-economic status or class. Only race. Why that one specific characteristic ?

Will you accept that much about race has been denied and hidden by Officials including current Labour politicians. We are not told the truth. We are not deemed worthy of a clear answer.
The excesses of the damage to children, mainly girls in northern cities like Rochdale generated much anger. The abuse was reported but for two years very little was done about it. Most of those perpetrators were not white indigenous people.

Currently many of us object to the influx of foreign people. We are finding that nobody is listening, The PM doesn't care and shrugs his shoulders. No one in government is doing a damn thing.
We object to this rise in population because of the crowding of towns and schools and housing estates and roads and wherever one wants to go. We are expected to both cope with this and finance it through taxation.
Oh and please keep on voting Labour or waste your vote entirely and vote LibDem

This.

Is it racist to be concerned about the affects mass immigration has on the economy and culture of the UK?

People have seen their quality of life go down, this has coincided with an increase in immigration. There has been an increase in GDP, but a decrease in GDP per capita.

There has been a lot of things coming out about rape and sexual abuse, that the authorities have ignored, in part out of fear of being labelled racist.

There are a lot of people who feel that the culture of the UK is changing for the worse, they want to hold on to what makes it a great place to live.

A lot of the people who voice their fears have been called racist, some of them are racist, most probably aren't. It doesn't help that there is a class element, working class areas are hit harder by the changes, because of the cheaper housing, working class jobs are affected more. The working class people who complain are then written off as ignorant, stupid, racist, uneducated etc by people who live in middle class areas, who have middle class jobs, who don't walk the same streets or see the same things.

Will you accept that much about race has been denied and hidden by Officials including current Labour politicians. We are not told the truth. We are not deemed worthy of a clear answer.
The excesses of the damage to children, mainly girls in northern cities like Rochdale generated much anger. The abuse was reported but for two years very little was done about it. Most of those perpetrators were not white indigenous people.

Currently many of us object to the influx of foreign people. We are finding that nobody is listening, The PM doesn't care and shrugs his shoulders. No one in government is doing a damn thing.
We object to this rise in population because of the crowding of towns and schools and housing estates and roads and wherever one wants to go. We are expected to both cope with this and finance it through taxation.
Oh and please keep on voting Labour or waste your vote entirely and vote LibDem

I’m not on here much atm, I’ve been busy following the trial of Hadush Kebatu when I’m not on shift. What’s been said? Sounds awful :(

I've been off mumsnet for a while because of the racist and transphobic nonsense I keep reading on here. I'm not saying people aren't allowed to have their opinion, but the sheer nastiness and intolerance is unbearable. Whatever happened to just been kind, decent human beings?

"Being kind" ended up in women almost losing our sex based rights. But apparently women's rights are transphobic.

Wasn't sure where to post this, but I thought AIBU would be ok. I am not running this as a poll, because I don't care about anyones opinions on the matter. And if anyone wants to respond with more racism, don't bother because I won't be engaging for even a second.

Right at the moment this site is not being overrun by racists because MNHQ has determined that there are no racists on the site and it's abuse to tell anyone they are a racist (even when they are). However, there are multiple threads expressing racism every single day, all rehearsing the same old misinformation and bogus narratives. Not one of those posters want to engage - they become abusive and offensive if anyone produces remotely evidenced facts. Their "facts" are the only truthful facts. Everyone else is a "woman hating woke leftist". Which is apparently not abus, according to MNHQ. MNHQ have made is abundantly clear that they will not moderate misinformation, and are blithely happy to allow most abuse to stand.

Here's the thing - there's pretty much nobody on those threads that is genuinely interested in having a discussion or debating information. There is nobody jumping on those threads saying that they don't really understand the different views and positions and would like to know more. Unsurprising, anyone who actually wants to explore the issue, the absolute last place to look to do that would be yet another toxic thread here. Probably the only good thing is that it really is highly unlikely anyone with a real curiousity about the subject would look to form opinions based on the toxic formula of MN.

The only thing that these threads are good for is clicks and ££££'s in the bank for Justine and the site.

So anti-racists - I suggest that we all stop answering these threads altogether. I know it is hard to see the racism stand (although apparently not for the owners of the site or the moderators) unchallenged, but every single challange does nothing but feed the flames and earn money for MN. You all know that the people who are not racists will spend 20% of their posts posting misinformation and 80% posting goady barbs and personal insults, just to keep the threads going. It will be incredibly boring for them if they only have each other to talk to. The threads will die without oxygen. And MN makes no money out of clicks that haven't happened. It's a win all around.

And if you want to do something proactive, instead of engaging with people who aren't going to listen, why not raise your concerns about the racism with the advertisers? They are being associated with it by their presence, and are clearly far more likely to influence the owners of the site than the people posting on it.

I wouldn't even waste time engaging with them. There's no point.

Me too.

Simply put a 💐 after every post that's racist/ offensive/ massively overstepping. Instead of the good old fashioned mumsnet biscuit. Suggest doing the same with painted roundabout too!

This.