Racist Threads

Thank you, I appreciate your kind comments.

I've been on here for years and it will be really hard to walk away, but I think I probably need to. I've been thinking about it for a while, tbh, but the last few days have confirmed it for me. Partly because the volume of racist posts has got so out of control, and partly because MNHQ don't seem to really care.

It isn't fun any more.

Thank you, I appreciate your kind comments.

I've been on here for years and it will be really hard to walk away, but I think I probably need to. I've been thinking about it for a while, tbh, but the last few days have confirmed it for me. Partly because the volume of racist posts has got so out of control, and partly because MNHQ don't seem to really care.

It isn't fun any more.

Oh, you're the poster who thinks you're a special immigrant because you married a white Englishman.

And are now importing your American race politics here. Lovely.

Before this descends into the inevitable bunfight, I just wanted to say that I'll be sorry to see you go @MrsBennetsPoorNerves.

I've seen your name pop up on a lot of the threads I've either been on or lurking on, and your comments are always fair and balanced.

If you decide to stay, or if you go and then decide to come back, maybe sticking to certain boards might help weed out the worst of the nastiness? I try and avoid AIBU if I'm feeling a little bit fragile. Sometimes I just come and have a poke around the property and decoration boards without looking at everything else because it's much calmer on there.

💐

I think this site - influential as it is - is likely being targeted by the billionaire oligarch capitalists behind Reform UK / GB News / the flags bollocks / hotel yelling.

Yes @sleepwouldbenice, they won't tell us why it was agreed in the first place we do not need the mass of unskilled scarcely educated that is just pitching up. There was no budget or plan about paying for it.

Just FYI the last group that replied to posters with flowers, got complained about to MN and warned.

So maybe not such a good idea.

I'm not engaging with the racists on MN anymore. As far as I can see they are only on MN to peddle their racist bollocks and are not worth anyones time or effort.

If I say I don't care about any of that but don't want people coming into the UK through unofficial channels - is that racist?

My view is I welcome anyone coming here who has applied and gone through the due process of checks.

I welcome people with skills and education that can be employed.
I welcome those who can work in the NHS or Care Homes with the necessary attitudes and command of English.

I do not believe the vast majority of those smuggled in are valid claimants for Asylum. I think most are economic migrants and should not be able to.just "break in".

If that makes me racist I'm OK with that.

Indeed. A year ago sweet well meaning people were posting things like " Am I being inappropriate if I wear a sari to an Indian wedding?".
Now it's " There's a brown man in the park!" or " My children are not safe at school!". MN does nothing.

Maybe we should fill the threads with flowers.

More seek asylum in eg Iran, Turkey, Germany, France than in the UK.

I have a view on this. All these people have already passed through several safe countries before making a trip which actually puts them in danger - the Channel crossing.

If they are fleeing from danger and seeking safety, why do they do this? We know why - their economic prospects are probably better in the UK maybe because of language, connections already established in the UK. So surely that turns them from asylum seekers into economic migrants.

None of these people need to flee France unless we're saying France isn't safe?

Now, I know the law isn't written in this way and that they are perfectly entitled to seek asylum in a safe country of their choosing. But I think people feel that what they're doing is something different to seeking asylum based on what I've said above.

To address your last point: on what basis do you believe the "vast majority" of people arriving through illegal means don't qualify as genuine asylum seekers?

Is it because of media reports?

How do you know that these people aren't genuine asylum seekers? Or is it just that you don't believe that anyone, no matter how dire their circumstances are, should be granted asylum if they enter illegally?

Surely the issue is the bottleneck within government for processing asylum seekers? If the process was more efficient, anyone who wasn't genuine would simply be removed promptly once their application was assessed and only the genuine asylum seekers would be left - so problem solved?

If that's the case then the problem is with how slow the application process is, rather than the desperate people trying to get in?

I'm not trying to be confrontational or aggressive - I'm trying to understand what the "other side" believe, and where the information comes from.

I think you're right, OP. We may just be fuelling the problem by trying to challenge it. We certainly aren't changing any minds. And the racists are clearly getting their kicks from winding us up.

The frankly peverse decisions sometimes being taken by the MNHQ moderators really don't help. It is increasingly clear that, for all of their words, they aren't really committed to tackling the problem. On one recent thread, their intervention actually made things worse, but they didn't even bother responding when I pointed this out.

It is starting to have a negative impact on my mental health tbh, and I think I need to step away from the site for a while, if not permanently. It's pretty depressing to see the worst of humanity being paraded on a site that was once supposed to be a supportive space for women.

There are still some amazing posters here and I have been very grateful for the opportunities that I've had to learn from the wisdom and insights that people have shared. I have appreciated the solidarity from others who find the current situation as abhorrent as I do. But honestly, I think I'm done.

We are overcrowded as we are. Let us revise the rules on Claiming Asylum.
Let's change the rules on agreeing to people remaining hers for flimsy reasons.

I'll bite.

As a starting point I would say it is expressing hatred towards other people and/or discriminating against them based on the grounds of their colour, race, or ethnic or national origins.

I particularly enjoy the flag ones. Because OBVIOUSLY the flag wavers are simply supporting the Women's Rugby...despite the average current flag putter-upper clearly being the type of dickhead who hates the thought of women doing 'blokes' sports mate, get em in the kitchen'
They're just patriotic. Bollocks
It's pathetic and nasty and ignorant.

But it’s not quite the same thing. Lots of the illegal immigrants are men in a particular age bracket who come from cultures that don’t respect women or where cultural practices may not be acceptable here. Councils/“authorities” have held classes telling these men effectively that just because British women don’t dress in a way they think is appropriate it doesn’t mean it’s fair game to harass/assault them. NAF(orgein)MALT, but that is a massive concern for local communities but if they speak about it they’re called far-right bigots. Afghanistan has just decided that women can see five from one eye so they’ve got to wear an eye patch over the other eye. How can people from a culture where that is encouraged do a 180 when they arrive here? Do you think years of conditioning is somehow erased as soon as they’re housed in a hotel?

At the moment, things that are very concerning and should be addressed are being squashed with shouts of “Racist!”.