Racist Threads

There’s a common misconception that migration has been happening for centuries in Britain.

It hasn’t. The number of migrants in the last 30 years is more than all the migrants combined from the 5th century to the Second World War.

It's jam first and scone rhymes with stone. I will not be persuaded otherwise.

People divide themselves among their own ethnic communities.

You may not like that, but it’s human nature and you’d have to be literal fascist to get them to stop.

Did I suggest that alll asylum seekers should stop at the first safe country? No.

I was responding to a post in which the poster asked why another poster didn’t believe the asylum seekers are genuine.

I then made an observation that people coming to the UK have already travellled through safe European countries and chosen to take a dangerous journey across the Channel. This feels counter intuitive to their status as people fleeing from danger.

And this may be why some people in the UK and on Mumsnet view them as economic migrants rather than asylum seekers.

I don’t know what I think, if I’m honest.

This is sadly what happens when you cannot or will not defend your borders. Maybe you should reconsider your stance if you think what happened to them was tragic and sad (I do!)

Or maybe you think, hey! We are all human beings anyway, and there’s no such thing as an ethnic native american since they arrived in different waves of migration and never saw each other as a unified people anyway!!!!

Why does it matter what the ratios of various skin-tones are ?

I do find it interesting that many posters are quick to call others and the content of their posts racist, but will argue against themselves being labelled transphobic.

I imagine the majority of both “racists” and “transphobes” are coming from a place of genuine concern. I would also guess that the ones doing the labelling can’t see past their own viewpoint and narrow life experiences of not being impacted by misogyny or migration and therefore resort to name calling.

They most certainly weren't .

People claimed they 'didn't realise' they were in Staffroom or that the threads were 'In Active' so it was for anyone to comment.

I've seen the same said to people in eg Black Mumsnetters.

Just seen your response . That's an interesting response to the attempt to wipe out the North American Indians.

I hate to point out the obvious but not much more than a few hundred years ago your land was 100% non White.

Yeah, it’s kind of a cautionary tale about what can happen if you cannot or will not defend your borders.

So, just to be clear, are you suggesting that all asylum seekers should stop at the first safe country they reach?

Which means that, as an island, we probably wouldn't have any.

That might suit the agenda of some, but that's hardly fair?

Doesn't it make sense for asylum seekers to request refuge in a country where they have a better chance of carving out a life because they already speak the language? It makes perfect sense to me that those who speak English would prefer to seek asylum in Britain because if granted, they could more easily work and become a valuable part of society. Seeking refuge in a country where you don't speak the language makes it less likely that you can make a contribution and settle effectively - and surely no one wants that?

France has historically always had high numbers of French-speaking asylum seekers from African nations. It's the same thing.

I think the point is that some people seem to think the UK is taking vast swathes of asylum seekers when the reality is that other countries are taking far more. Last year we were the 17th in Europe when calculated using the number of asylum seekers per capita.

It's a very long way from the claim that everyone is making their way to us. There's a general world increase in asylum seekers, but it feels as if the world is particularly volatile, so it's perhaps not a surprise. The fact is we take LESS than the European average, and fewer per capita than many other nations.

I can't see how it's fair that we don't take asylum seekers just because we're not attached to the mainland.

And Andrew Tate. Kindred spirits.

I'm up for a bit of goat and scone derailing.

I'm cream first, then jam. On the scone, not the goat.

Most of the threads I remember where in AIBU and Chat.

I don't think I've ever looked at the Staff Room topic.

Indeed. And anyway the US has dealt with nothing for longer than this country because it's all of about two minutes old by comparison.

No , in the end that isn't what happened. HQ moved The Staffroom out of Active Threads to minimise pile ons, as many of the worst threads for aggressive visitors were posted initially in Staffroom. Most teachers then more or less left the Staffroom and many MN altogether.

Actually he is supporting Lowe and Robinson now.

I think it was because they didn't always see it as racism, so encouraged others to challenge and discuss.

Much the same reply as when some people have complained about ableism.

I guess some people see things differently, including the moderators.

Oh for the days when we derailed racist or benefit bashing threads etc with talk of goats and scones and other nonsense. But then got accused of being cliquey 😂

You have a president who thinks slavery wasn't that bad. You voted for him,didn't you?

Musk has got money to burn and supports Reform. Not surprising.

You were like 95% white 30 years ago. Race politics has only just begun for you.

And tbh I actually thought you were curious about the question you asked.

The flowers thing was done to death a few years ago when some thought there was an 'anti teacher' sentiment taking over MN.

The trouble was after a while anyone who started a thread about a problem with a teacher got bombarded with flowers from the same few people, despite others wanting to discuss the problem with the OP seriously.

In the end MNHQ had to tell them to pack it in and scroll past or hide the threads if they didn't like them, rather than disrupt them for everyone else.