What's the obsession with drag?

Also, Edna took the piss out of men mainly.

This is the second drag thread in about as many days. I take it it's drag's turn to get a bashing again? It's been a while.

Why are ypu asking? You've already made your mind up

"Old School" drag - including the likes of Lily Savage, pantomime dames, Cupid Stunt - was great. Clever, funny, bawdy and great.

'Modern' drag where the "womanface" make-up is just a hideous piss-take of women and reinforcing gender stereotypes, where a man 'passing' as a woman is described as 'fishy' (a reference to tropes about what women smell like) and the misogyny just drips from it all...no thanks. That's before we get to the open fetish aspects and the fact that it's often presented in family/child-friendly places in an effort to be 'progressive' and 'cool', which is ragingly inappropriate - drag is inherently sexualised and has absolutely no place near a child.

It seems to be everywhere now as a way for events and venues to signal their inclusive virtue

A lot of the modern cohort's acts are truly nasty and demeaning to women. It's yet another badge that gives men immunity from deeply misogynistic views and misogynistic stereotypes. They wouldn't be able parody or spout such bile about anyone else in the name of comedy but apparently we're fair game. So basically good riddance if most of them vanished off the face of the earth.

https://safeschoolsallianceuk.net/2022/01/09/drag-queen-story-hour/

It's yet another perversion.

Lily Savage et all are not in the same league as the men dressed in fetish gear reading stories to reception children in public libraries. Parents worry about the latter, not the former.

Is it an obsession? I watch tv, I go out (and live in central London, so not a village with one pub), and I can’t remember when I last saw a drag queen? Probably when I last watched tv with my parents as a child (Lily Savage, Les Dawson).

Where are they all?!

I used to love Dick Emery.
"Ooh, you are awful, but I like you"
I used to find Julian Clary funny as well.

Seems so a achronistic and old fashioned to me now. Plus they've over expised themselves, people are sick of having men pretending to be woman shoved down their throats.

Drag should be bitchy camp gay men on the door in clubs arbitrarily deciding who can come in like in the 90s, not on every bloody tv show and news article the BBC produces.

I’ve never understood it. Think it’s weird.

Absolutely adored Dick Emery as a (very) small child! Also saw Lily Savage live many years ago, also very funny.

But I honestly think it’s down to the person…Grayson Perry is an untalented, derivative old windbag and best avoided.

And the ‘new’ lot wear so much make-up I don’t know how they don’t fall over.

Drag goes back quite a long way though, so I don’t think it can be dismissed.

I quite like it if done well, especially in the U.K. where it tends to be comical. We have a long standing tradition, it’s not new. Remains to be seen how he is dressed for strictly and the show has tight guidelines as a family show as to content

I quite like it if done well, especially in the U.K. where it tends to be comical. We have a long standing tradition, it’s not new. Remains to be seen how he is dressed for strictly and the show has tight guidelines as a family show as to content

I quite like it if done well, especially in the U.K. where it tends to be comical. We have a long standing tradition, it’s not new. Remains to be seen how he is dressed for strictly and the show has tight guidelines as a family show as to content

I don’t go out my way to see a drag show, they are often presenters who are also comedians. It’s just part of a large persona which makes them more comical. There’s always a drag queen on at the theatre when we go each year with the kids, they tend to be funny, over exaggerated characters. I don’t feel really strongly one way or the other - but if I enjoy their humour yes I enjoy their show.

Reviews of his act refer to his “saucy company” and “outrageously rude” jokes. While this may be acceptable for certain adults who enjoy this niche entertainment, it certainly isn't something that children should be exposed to.

Do you think the BBC are going to have outrageously rude jokes at seven o'clock on a saturday? Really?

I'm not a massive drag fan, I've never been to a show, probably never will. But I don't think there's an obsession with drag. I think there's an obsession with people complaining about it.

It’s exceptionally dull and largely unfunny. Mrs Browns Boys, Grayson Perry (the man himself not the art), Little Britain, yawn.

I have seen a few drag shows and like any live entertainers, some are better than others. I've seen some who have made me laugh loads and were really good fun.

Whether they're suitable for children entirely depends on their material. Lots use adult humour and sexual innuendo as part of their acts and that's obviously not appropriate for kids. But if they use age appropriate humour and / or they're simply dressed up and singing / lip syncing, I don't see the harm in kids watching them. It's pretty much the same as a pantomime dame imo - a man in a dress, with OTT make up and a wig, singing and telling jokes.

Lily savage and Dame Edna were on TV same time as strictly

And most people will alter their manner depending on the time and place so I doubt there will be much outrageously rude jokes being told during the tango

No one has explained to me why it’s different from blacking up.

that was deemed ‘fun’ too in the past.

Drag is boring.