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wuminzo · 26/08/2025 18:36

I am deaf. I use hearing aids and can hear ok with them, but in certain situations it's a struggle to hear what people are saying.

The consultant's secretary was sitting with two others in a line. She was not directly opposite me but off to my right, that's how the desk situation worked and I couldn't get any closer to her. She was giving me information about upcoming procedure, a lot of information! I told her I couldn't hear her as I was deaf. She didn't acknowledge this and carried on. Despite repeated requests to repeat herself and constantly telling her I was deaf she did nothing, well she sighed and Word. By. Word. In. That. Fashion said it again.

She could have got up from her seat and stood in front of me which I said would work better but she didn't. I was so embarrassed as the office was full of people who were avidly listening (the irony!) to this drama.

I am very upset. I feel if I were physically disabled similar disrespect wouldn't have happened. I felt she saw me as stupid or thick (I'm old and grey ha ha).

When I got home I was livid, it's going over and over in my head. I was going to ring straight away, but am calming myself down.

Would you, or should I contact her myself and let her know how rude and uncaring she was, and that she caused me embarrassment? Or should I just sleep on it and forget about it. I think I feel better having got it out to MN, so I may just leave it.

Thanks for reading if you got this far!!

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Autumn1990 · 26/08/2025 22:10

Definitely complain as others have said so she can improve. Some hospitals are really good, I’ve been lucky but the others need to improve.

Thelnebriati · 26/08/2025 22:04

There's some info on PALS and how to make a complaint here;

What is PALS (Patient Advice and Liaison Service)?
www.nhs.uk/nhs-services/hospitals/what-is-pals-patient-advice-and-liaison-service/

NeverDropYourMooncup · 26/08/2025 21:50

wuminzo · 26/08/2025 20:28

Thank you one and all. I feel a little better now having had some tea, it was a long afternoon TBH.

I am so glad I posted this, I didn't know if I should as I thought I was being dramatic and that I was overreacting. But I know now I wasn't. I would hate for anyone else in my position to have to go through that.

So tomorrow after a hopefully decent sleep, I shall write (is email better do you think?) to the hospital and as you have advised, keep it professional and not personal. I will take your advice and suggestions on board in drafting it.

I hope that my letter/email will wake them up and ensure that we are all, both able and disabled treated with kindness and dignity, as we should be.

My sincere thanks to this little corner of Mumsnet for understanding how much this affected me today. Flowers

Yes, absolutely send it by email - if you phone, not only could it be forgotten/ignored/not acted on', there's always the chance you get somebody who doesn't put the handset near their mouth, is in a busy area with lots of background noise or, worst of all, answers calls on handsfree.

NotPerfectlyAdverage · 26/08/2025 20:41

I'd complain to pals and I have before about patronising behavior to my disabled child. The first eye roller got a "look, he doesn't understand you. You can raise your voice as much as you like but it's not going to make any difference. He's disabled, not thick"

tbh when this happens repeatedly and I get a tut and eye roll I'm going to repay the favour of humiliation. Fuck it. sometimes they snap and tut and im only human too. Life is hard enough with a disability without this shit.

When I got past this gatekeeper I had the entire same thing with the nurse wjust he just would not accept that we was wasn't just both thick as shit and making things up. So I complained and it did make a difference. That nurse won't do what he did again in a hurry. He totally dismissed us, didn't belive me therefore didnt examine my son and completely missed a very visible and obvious injury.

wuminzo · 26/08/2025 20:28

Thank you one and all. I feel a little better now having had some tea, it was a long afternoon TBH.

I am so glad I posted this, I didn't know if I should as I thought I was being dramatic and that I was overreacting. But I know now I wasn't. I would hate for anyone else in my position to have to go through that.

So tomorrow after a hopefully decent sleep, I shall write (is email better do you think?) to the hospital and as you have advised, keep it professional and not personal. I will take your advice and suggestions on board in drafting it.

I hope that my letter/email will wake them up and ensure that we are all, both able and disabled treated with kindness and dignity, as we should be.

My sincere thanks to this little corner of Mumsnet for understanding how much this affected me today. Flowers

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LBFseBrom · 26/08/2025 20:26

I am sorry. She is in the wrong job but you cannot do much about that. I hope you have better experiences in future, not all med secs are like her (I'm a retired one).

As for a copy of the letter that will be sent to your GP. That will give all the details you need to know.

I feel sad on your behalf - which doesn't help you of course. People are often not properly trained for jobs and this is the result.

Marvellousmeadows · 26/08/2025 20:20

My husband is a hospital consultant and funnily enough I am deaf and wear a hearing aid too . Complain, she probably has this ignorant attitude with other patients.

GetOuttaMySkip · 26/08/2025 20:18

Please complain. Totally unacceptable behaviour and a breach of confidentiality.

I’m sorry this happened to you. I hope you feel better soon x

Ijustwanttobehealthy · 26/08/2025 20:17

I really think you need to submit a written complaint to the hospital complaints department. I would not contact her directly about this.

Sundaysoon · 26/08/2025 20:13

What a horrible, humiliating experience op! I felt quite choked up just reading that, so please, please follow through with the complaint.

Another one sending a big hug.

MedievalNun · 26/08/2025 20:09

I also wear hearing aids & have another more visible disability and often have to remind people to come closer / face me if they want me to understand so I really feel for you @wuminzo @GravyBoatWars had a good suggestion for the complaint letter; I’d also add that under the Equality Act they should make reasonable adjustments to ensure that disabled people aren’t discriminated against, and the set up of that area sounds as if it does discriminate against members of the Deaf community. That might add weight to your letter.

Sending you a big hug.

Rozbos · 26/08/2025 20:09

I would raise this as a patient confidentiality issue as well as poor practice. I’m sorry this happened to you OP. It’s unacceptable

pilates · 26/08/2025 20:05

Yes that definitely is worthy of a complaint in writing. How rude that is awful behaviour.

Clarinet1 · 26/08/2025 20:01

I’m sorry you went through this. As a fellow hearing aid user I do know how difficult some situations can be.
I second the suggestions of asking about hospital policy on communicating with hearing-impaired people; Do they give any training? And also about contacting PALS. You do not necessarily need to name the person involved; Just say you have found the assistance unsatisfactory.
Also, hearing-impaired or not, surely it is best to give important information in writing as well as verbally (although maybe they will follow up a letter).
I hope you get results; The more of us who raise these issues the better!

NeverDropYourMooncup · 26/08/2025 19:56

I've had really understanding, sensible people in that situation and some who I think are actually dedicated to practising ventriloquism.

It's probably about time for the hospital staff to have their EDI training updated to include something about disabilities.

I'd definitely submit a written complaint about the lack of training for staff who are dealing with those who are d/Deaf and hard of hearing, using that experience as the example.

FiveBarGate · 26/08/2025 19:55

I think your suggested approach to it is good.

If you are likely to have to see her again, not making it personal but seeking clarification is good. Ask how they can ensure patients with hearing impairments receive information in an appropriate way.

As a PP said, jot down what you want to say and cut and paste it into chat GPT with an instruction to make it neutral.

In some ways these policy orientated questions are harder to ignore than the 'she treated me this way '.

Although others were listening I don't think the embarrassment is all yours (though understand it felt that way). I'm sure most of them thought her idiotic when you'd clearly spelled out the problem.

Greenwings · 26/08/2025 19:47

You could have missed/misunderstood key information because this woman couldn't be bothered to make reasonable adjustment for you. It is not acceptable. Please complain formally, not just for you but for all the other hearing impaired people who can’t advocate for themselves.

StanfreyPock · 26/08/2025 19:43

That's terrible, my MIL was profoundly deaf and everyone knew to make sure she could see you if speaking to her. The secretary should have had the common sense and decency to follow your wishes. Awful, and I'm sure everyone was thinking that.

user1471453601 · 26/08/2025 19:35

@wuminzo I really felt for you when I read this.

I'm hearing impaired and know how infuriating/embarrassing/ annoying these situations can be. But people who behave like this need to be told, so they can get training on how to deal with people with this type of disability. So complain, and ask what training medical secretaries get on dealing with patients with this type of issue.

C152 · 26/08/2025 19:23

The secretary should be the one who feels embarrassed (and ashamed), not you. There is absolutely no excuse for her behaviour. I would write to the consultant and complain, and the Hospital/Trust, suggesting further training on how to effectively communicate with and help all patients is necessary.

And don't for a minute think that anyone in that waiting room thought less of you - I am sure they were all thinking that she was a total dick. (Sadly, I am not surprised no one stood up and corrected her on your behalf, but I would have, had I been there.)

CoffeeLipstickKeys · 26/08/2025 19:20

wuminzo · 26/08/2025 19:07

I'm reading all your lovely replies and I'm feeling a bit choked up TBH. Honestly - you lot actually GET IT whereas the secretary just didn't and didn't seem to care. I am surprised at how upset I am as I get this a lot, but because it was in public I felt so degraded. I am so grateful for your suggestions and will read them properly later on when I've had some tea! I do agree that I should be an ambassador for the deaf community for sure!

I am thinking along the lines of writing to the hospital asking them what their policy is in relation to deaf people presenting for treatment, specifically in X Department where the acoustics and set up do not lend themselves to good communication with deaf people.

Whew! I could cry with the humiliation I felt earlier. Honestly it was pure free entertainment for those waiting and watching. So embarrassed to have that attention on me from strangers who ended up knowing more than I did about what my health status was! 😊

Write a factual letter, what happened and the interactions with the staff
You absolutely should not have been treated so shoddily
This will not be the hospital policy and if the trust is told of episodes that are inadequate they can address it

CoffeeLipstickKeys · 26/08/2025 19:16

wuminzo · 26/08/2025 18:36

I am deaf. I use hearing aids and can hear ok with them, but in certain situations it's a struggle to hear what people are saying.

The consultant's secretary was sitting with two others in a line. She was not directly opposite me but off to my right, that's how the desk situation worked and I couldn't get any closer to her. She was giving me information about upcoming procedure, a lot of information! I told her I couldn't hear her as I was deaf. She didn't acknowledge this and carried on. Despite repeated requests to repeat herself and constantly telling her I was deaf she did nothing, well she sighed and Word. By. Word. In. That. Fashion said it again.

She could have got up from her seat and stood in front of me which I said would work better but she didn't. I was so embarrassed as the office was full of people who were avidly listening (the irony!) to this drama.

I am very upset. I feel if I were physically disabled similar disrespect wouldn't have happened. I felt she saw me as stupid or thick (I'm old and grey ha ha).

When I got home I was livid, it's going over and over in my head. I was going to ring straight away, but am calming myself down.

Would you, or should I contact her myself and let her know how rude and uncaring she was, and that she caused me embarrassment? Or should I just sleep on it and forget about it. I think I feel better having got it out to MN, so I may just leave it.

Thanks for reading if you got this far!!

Complain - but not directly to her
Its a process and inclusivity issue that requires training and explicit guidance how to sensitively work with hearing impaired people
sorry you were treated so poorly

GravyBoatWars · 26/08/2025 19:15

Yes, I think you should write in at least informally.

As someone with an often-invisible disability (though I now use an assistance dog, which increases visibility in one way but adds different issues) my suggestion for a complaint or letter would be to focus on the accessibility and privacy issues and less on your feelings. I don't say that because your feelings are unimportant, but in general a complaint about someone "embarrassing you" is more likely to result in platitudes and an apology while giving them more objective feedback creates something obviously actionable and flags this as something practices are required to address.

I would explain how the receptionist's actions impaired your ability to access consultant services (you were struggling to get needed information and to be sure your own questions and statements were understood, you were increasingly concerned about privacy and that became a distraction) and some specific examples of things she could have done to assist (moving closer, ensuring her face was easily visible, pausing to listen closely to you, etc.) and things the practice can do, like having a space available for these conversations to take place in private with better acoustics and proximity. You don't have to leave all mention of emotions out but I wouldn't lead with it or focus on it.

PinkiOcelot · 26/08/2025 19:13

If I had been there I would have been looking at her thinking what a bitch. I certainly wouldn’t have been looking at you thinking you were stupid.

Definitely complain. She needs spoken to at least but definitely training.

PoolHog · 26/08/2025 19:12

I’m so sorry this happened to you, it’s absolutely unacceptable and you should complain (if you feel up to it.)

For what it’s worth, if I’d overheard this then I’d have said something.