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To think I can squeeze into a 5 person car with just 2 other people

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Emma6cat · 26/08/2025 16:37

I have a trip planned from the north of England to the south coast on Friday to see my Son off who will be away for a year. Originally I was planning to drive down but since then I have been plagued with neck arthritis and its painful to drive long distances. I asked my Sister who is also going down (driving) if I could go in the car with them (her and my dad) to be told no the car would be full. Now granted they are going down for a week, but surely the boot and three back seats wouldn't all be taken up by luggage? AIBU to think surely they could squeeze me in. I am now looking at the train, 3 changes and lengthy trip bearing in mind I will have my luggage with me. My neck, collarbone and shoulder are constantly sore and I am taking medication for this. Just feel a bit hurt tbh!

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HerLivingontheHilltop · 26/08/2025 18:50

This is appalling behaviour from FAMILY.
You are the 'mum' here going to see your son off (is he in the Navy?)

Is there any chance that one of them could go by train?

I'm wondering how old your dad is and if he's able to take a train, or your sister?

Or- they can surely travel lighter and fit you in.

Failing all of that- have you looked into a coach?

oncemoreuntothebeachdearfriends · 26/08/2025 18:46

My car is bigger than a Puma, & the back seats have to fold down to fit in the luggage for 2 of us.

Earthbound4 · 26/08/2025 18:41

It’s all a bit weird. I don’t think your DS respects you or values you.

They do however, respect your son.

Have you got a track record for cadging lifts and ducking out of driving?

Ponderingwindow · 26/08/2025 18:38

Adding another person changes many things. With your pain, are you really going to be happy sitting in the back seat? Will the front seat passengers need to move their seats forward to give you more space? As someone with long legs I typically have mine all the way back. You will have your own preferences for temperature and air. There are additional people to consider for breaks and agreeing on a place to stop to eat.

traveling is already incredibly stressful and difficult. At least travel is difficult for me as I get travel sickness and have other issues. I think through every detail to try to make it as smooth as possible. Adding an additional person isn’t just about having a seat in the car.

TheCurious0range · 26/08/2025 18:35

soupyspoon · 26/08/2025 17:20

A Note. Not a small car, looked up that Puma, not sure if Im looking at the right models but the car doesnt look substantiall different in size

We put the back seats down and the entire back is our suitcases, various ruck sacks, the cool bag of bits and bobs (we're always self catering), a box of car emergency items like wipes, screen stuff, spare bulbs, blanket, other car bits that I cant remember, oil and whatnot. If its summer we have our wetsuits/dry robes. If its winter we have various bags and boxes with boots and coats in. We may or may not take our folding beach chairs and windbreak but even if we dont there wouldnt be room for a person to sit in it, let alone any bags.
If we take our bikes then there are our panniers which are quite large, and bike equipment, waterproofs, bike covers, locks and chains etc. Theres always a big shopping bag of snacks and nibbles.

OH has a whole bag, like a laundry bag sized bag of boots and shoes. We both have a rucksack each of medication. Plus his laptop and a massive bag of electricals/chargers etc.

And most threads on here I often read that people take spare kitchen equipment when they travel, I hear of people taking frozen meals, or air fryers!! Irons and spare baking trays and foil and stuff.

That seems like a lot of stuff and quite specific to your outdoor hobbies , the father and sister here are going to stay in a nice cottage after seeing of their grandson/nephew, so will presumably mainly need clothing and toiletries maybe food but you could always do a click and collect near the property which is better for fresh things anyway.
I'm assuming that's why you have the note , because it's flexible for that kind of equipment, I had one as a work hire car once. They probably are a similar size/capacity to a puma

OutingHobbyWife · 26/08/2025 18:33

When you say Ford Puma, do you mean one of the newer model SUV type, or the 1990s coupé? Because if it's the latter you really wouldn't want to travel very far squished in the back so they're doing you a favour refusing tbh!

jonthebatiste · 26/08/2025 18:32

My SIL does this sort of thing with PILs. Both her siblings are married and have DC, she is neither married nor a parent. She doesn’t live with her parents, but she openly says they are the only family she has so they should prioritize her over her siblings. She gatekeeps her parents, I guess. And they let her do it because her siblings allow her to and pity that she has to do this sort of thing. It applies to all sorts of things: who gets which room at Christmas (she will get the master as a single woman, her siblings + kids have to sleep on air mattresses and bunk beds in a single smaller room); she will get ££££ tech and jewelry for her birthday, her siblings will get a card; her dad does all her diy (changing lightbulbs, putting air in her tyres, changing her air purifier filter - she lives 45mins away from them) often timed for weekends when she knows her nieces /nephews will be staying with them. It’s exhausting and pitiful, but what can you do 🤷‍♀️

SteviesNicks · 26/08/2025 18:31

Wow, this is really mean.
Can you offer your sister the cost of what your train fare would be, to offset the fuel costs (though I would imagine she would be in profit, knowing how expensive rail travel is in this country!).

I hope she sees sense @Emma6cat .

CornishTiger · 26/08/2025 18:29

And if I was your Dad I’d be tellling her to take you instead of me!

How unkind neither of them will help you out.

Don’t want to get involved shows he’s weak in their relationship. Probably because she lives at home and he’s going to be relying on her.

CornishTiger · 26/08/2025 18:28

Frankly your sister is being a cow.

If I was your son I’d be telling her not to expect to meet if she couldn’t at least try and make his mums life easier. I’m sure you are emotional enough about him leaving for a year without your sister trying to control the whole meet up.

CornishTiger · 26/08/2025 18:28

Frankly your sister is being a cow.

If I was your son I’d be telling her not to expect to meet if she couldn’t at least try and make his mums life easier. I’m sure you are emotional enough about him leaving for a year without your sister trying to control the whole meet up.

buffyajp · 26/08/2025 18:27

thistimelastweek · 26/08/2025 17:34

Some of these replies are ridiculous. Of course it is hurtful to exclude the OP in these circumstances. To say otherwise is perverse.
OP, I think your sister is nasty and your dad is weak.
I hope you have a lovely time with your son. Shame she has to be there.

Don’t be stupid. We don’t have the whole story so no the replies are not ridiculous at all. Maybe the sister is nasty but equally there may be a reasonable explanation why they can’t take op. We only have one side of the story. I hate it when people who grow up in a Walton’s style family think everyone else does too or believe family should trump every thing else. Not for everyone it doesn’t. I’m sorry for op but she needs to speak with her sister and dad to see if there is something else going on.

YumYa · 26/08/2025 18:26

That sounds very selfish. I can't understand that at all

Is your ds in the navy?

CutFlowers · 26/08/2025 18:19

I think your sister is being horrible. Can your son come to meet you half way?

Tryingtokeepgoing · 26/08/2025 18:18

CarefullyCuratedFurniture · 26/08/2025 18:09

I think there might be some confusion over the Ford Puma bit. There is a fairly small older Puma, which might be tight for three adults and all the luggage (but not impossible). The new Puma is a decent sized SUV, and if the dad and sister are travelling in one of those, they are being very unreasonable in not giving the OP a lift even just one way.

If its tricky by train, OP, would you be able to go by coach?

The current Puma is a Fiesta on stilts surely, not an SUV, and sits at the bottom of Ford’s range. It’s definitely not big - Avis in Nice have them quite often so I have driven a few. But there’s plenty of room for 3 people, as long as they are not all six foot four. There is something other than the size of car at play here…

CarefullyCuratedFurniture · 26/08/2025 18:09

I think there might be some confusion over the Ford Puma bit. There is a fairly small older Puma, which might be tight for three adults and all the luggage (but not impossible). The new Puma is a decent sized SUV, and if the dad and sister are travelling in one of those, they are being very unreasonable in not giving the OP a lift even just one way.

If its tricky by train, OP, would you be able to go by coach?

TheNightingalesStarling · 26/08/2025 18:08

Its a don't want to, not a can't.

Rewis · 26/08/2025 18:08

Your sister just doesn't want to spend time with you. Not to drive you and not to share accommodation. It could be sorted so easily and most families woild do it automatically, she just doesnt want to.

Even if space was a problem, you don't make someone take 3 trains if they're going to the aame destination. You figure it out. You don't just say no.

Pastaandoranges · 26/08/2025 18:00

That sounds very mean. Its your son after all.
What luggage are you and they taking? We go as a family of four for a weeks self catering in a normal car with all our luggage.

kittensinthekitchen · 26/08/2025 17:58

So what did you sister say when you asked her how you wouldn't fit in the car?

Happyelephants · 26/08/2025 17:57

As to the pps saying that of course your sister couldn't fit you in the car - it's a one week trip, how much stuff do they need to bring?

We used to go to a campsite in France for 2 weeks when we were kids - 2 adults, 2 or 3 kids, bags with clothes, beach towels, toys, teabags etc etc and we fit in a regular car.

Schoolchoicesucks · 26/08/2025 17:56

So your son is going away for a year and you, your DSis and DDad want to travel down to see him off. They decided to stay for a week but you can only stay for 3 days. They have booked an apartment while you are in a travelodge. I think this makes sense rather than paying for a larger apartment for whole week. You were planning to drive yourself there and back but now can't and want them to drive you there, but take the train back. It does seem odd that they won't accommodate this. But they may well think if you can manage the train one way why you can't do both. I imagine all the reasons will be linked to backstory and state of your relationships with one another rather than anything posters can provide an explanation for.

RightOnTheEdge · 26/08/2025 17:56

YANBU!
I could never do that to family. They would fit in one way or another. How much stuff can two people possibly need for a week in an apartment?

Happyelephants · 26/08/2025 17:53

Your sister is a cow and your Dad is useless. I don't usually go in for tit for tat, but I think it's reasonable here.

You definately need to spend some time with just your son, if he's free he can meet you from the train, have some meals out just you and him. You don't have to play nice with your sister and 'share' the moment with her.

Emma6cat · 26/08/2025 17:50

vickylou78 · 26/08/2025 17:26

There seems to be more to this!!! So mean...

Also you said camping but the mentioned a self catering apartment? If camping can see that the car may be full, but if going to a apartment surely they can fit you in.

Do you usually get on?

Never mentioned camping at all. Yes we usually get on, but since my mum died her and my dad have become very close. She has no children, and my Son and I are their only family. However it does seem to be me making all the plans, it was me who invited them to see my Son off and the suggestion of sharing the accommodation. I never expected to not be driving as I am coming back earlier, but now I cant drive far was thinking i could jump in with them.

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