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To have gone to CMS when he agrees to pay for their school stuff?

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Rainbows41 · 26/08/2025 13:12

Not with kids dad anymore. He was very abusive when together, but still tries to control me now.
Since split, 13 yrs ago, he has always refused to give me a penny in child maintenance, instead only offering to pay anything school related. CMS at the time of the split said this isn't something I have to accept and to go for CM application, but I was just happy not to have any more upset from him so was happy to accept his proposed arrangement.

I will add that roughly five years ago I had opted to go through the CMS route, and he laughed at me as he told me he was on UC so I wouldn't be entitled to anything. This turned out to be rue and CMS offered me nil, due to his income being UC and him having kids with current partner who reside with him. He then offered me one last chance to cancel the CMS application and to continue with his former agreement of paying for whatever the kids needed for school - which was at the time their uniforms, the odd school trip, and their bus passes, all of which didn't equate to more than £800 a year. I felt my hands were somewhat tied and agreed.
Literally within weeks, he set up a seemingly lucrative business and I felt he had planned this all along, I shook my head and continued.

Fast forward to now.
He has gotten increasingly mentally abusive still trying to control me, and lately my children too. One of my children now wants nothing to do with him, as his controlling behaviour with them has spiralled. In light of this I didn't want to continue asking him for money for uniforms (which is what I always have to do every time they need something for school), what with it being the start of the new school year again, so I have decided to go back to CMS and to stick with them whatever the outcome!
Up until now, every time they needed something school related, I felt he got a kick out of "providing" for his kids each time I had to ask for something. He always wanted me to prove whatever was needed and to justify the amount spent on that specific thing. I hated it. Aswell as this, he has always paraded himself as the more caring parent Infront of the kids, telling them that he is the one who pays for their school stuff, and mum doesn't, as though I don't care!? When infact this was an arrangement between us parents.
Overall, he has done very little and has squirmed almost every time he has had to put his hand in his pocket and I am not doing it anymore. I want nothing to do with him and this is the one last thing he is using to manipulate me with.
Today he sent the kids messages on their phones telling them "mum has decided to go back to CMS and as a result, he won't be paying for their phone contracts anymore". He sounded rather cheery in his tone, I must admit. So I fully expect that he has somehow lied to CMS about his income this time. Either way, im sticking with my decision this time, whatever the outcome is.

AIBU to have gone and cut contact with him and gone back to CMS?

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Rainbows41 · 26/08/2025 13:32

DelphiniumBlue · 26/08/2025 13:28

How long have the phone contracts got to run?Aren't most of them for 2 years, that he will have had to sign up to and pay on DD?
Anyway, I think you've done the right thing because now you never have to speak to him again.

The whole mob phone thing is another piece of his mindgame puzzle. I will pay for anything related to my children no matter what, but looking back, he actually purchased their mobile phones as gifts for either Christmas or birthdays and has been completely separate to any agreement he and I had.
Do I put this to him? Or do I suck it up as another thing he is using to try and control?

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Rainbows41 · 26/08/2025 13:28

Takersgonnatake · 26/08/2025 13:22

I don’t think you’re unreasonable at all. Hopefully they will see through his attempts to hide his income at CMS, but if they don’t then you will have to balance peace of mind against not getting money for kids phones and school equipment.
Only you know how much being rid of him and his controlling ways is worth to you.

Exactly. I have worked so very hard for every thing I have achieved and he is still bitter and somewhat jealous of that, which both baffles me and scares me.
He is very manipulative.
I have relinquished his control, which sets me free from his grip. This freedom is worth so much more to me than any amount of money CMS may or may not award.

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DelphiniumBlue · 26/08/2025 13:28

How long have the phone contracts got to run?Aren't most of them for 2 years, that he will have had to sign up to and pay on DD?
Anyway, I think you've done the right thing because now you never have to speak to him again.

Shelby2010 · 26/08/2025 13:27

I suspect he will lie about his income from the business. Can you manage without his money?

How old are your children & how often does he see them?

Takersgonnatake · 26/08/2025 13:22

I don’t think you’re unreasonable at all. Hopefully they will see through his attempts to hide his income at CMS, but if they don’t then you will have to balance peace of mind against not getting money for kids phones and school equipment.
Only you know how much being rid of him and his controlling ways is worth to you.

Rainbows41 · 26/08/2025 13:21

Sweetmelonff · 26/08/2025 13:16

It’s a bit jumbled
you say that CMS advised you to go via CMS
you say you didn’t

then you say 5 years ago, you did
it turns out zero because on benefits (still has to pay though)

how old are your children

I see what you mean, I have just edited my post to read a bit clearer.

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Sweetmelonff · 26/08/2025 13:19

It all sounds ghastly
I can’t understand why you didn’t go back to CMS years ago

the children must in their teens now?

Sweetmelonff · 26/08/2025 13:17

And by the sounds of it… he has been paying for things

dont get me wrong, he sounds like a twat

but it sounds like there’s been something of an informal arrangement for many years?

Sweetmelonff · 26/08/2025 13:16

It’s a bit jumbled
you say that CMS advised you to go via CMS
you say you didn’t

then you say 5 years ago, you did
it turns out zero because on benefits (still has to pay though)

how old are your children

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