Territorial dispute in swimming pool

I wonder if the swimming underneath you thing was an act of perve?

Apparently anything is complete reasonable if you went to swimming club 🙄🤣

I think swimming under you instead of waiting two seconds was awful, I would have hated that and felt really uncomfortable.

I don't really care if club swimmers do that all the time. Do it at your club, but it's very rude to do it to random, unsuspecting swimmers in a public session.
It's especially ignorant if it's a man doing it to a woman. I suspect he wouldnt have done it if the OP was a man.

So fucking what?

You don't prioritise your own convenience over someone else's?

One lane is much the same as another, particularly when comparing lanes 2 and 3 out of 4.

YANBU

Commenters who don't swim don't get this is actually a 'thing' ... so many men absolutely feel entitled to women's space in a pool, the faster lane, the better lane. And god forbid a woman swims faster than they do.

I think he did want the lane you were in and fully expected you to accommodate him by silently moving across to another empty lane. Much like women make way for men on pavements so they don't get barged into (deliberately).

I was on the verge of two options:

1. He consideres it his lane
2. If the lanes are graded based on speed and he falls within the category in which that line is, I would be more understanding . However, Considering your update he was being a dick. He could have chosen a different empty lane to stop bothering you.

I refuse to move usually when someone gets in. It happens quite often in the gym I go, there are no lanes and I tend to do plenty of laps but somehow there is always a bloke invading my path, so I charge at them, and they move out of the way.
They don’t do that to other blokes inside the pool.

Why would they need to swim up and down against each other in the same lane when they could each have their own lane?

Surely anyone with even the most basic social skills ought to realise that the person already in the otherwise empty pool would most likely prefer to continue having a lane to themselves if possible and that if you choose to get into their lane when all the other lanes are free you will probably annoy them?

Hon/mate/whatever, no one hates all men. It isn't possible. But most women know we have to be very wary of them. In particular, the ones who get into women's personal space when there's no need for it. If there's more than one lane in a swimming pool, then he had no reason to be anywhere near the OP.
The reason I think you're a bloke is because you seem to not understand this. It's a giveaway.

But you’re surmising that. Maybe he thought he was same slows and they’d swim up and down against each other?

We have no idea he got in there to be intimidating. That’s been decided on the fact he got in, moved out and moved back in.

If he’d have swam over OP, at OP, deliberately pushed off to swim over her repeatedly I’d have agreed with her.

But her own story admits that’s not what happened.

I think you are correct in your analysis of the situation and people are deliberately trying to see it some other way. Probably to be obtuse.

the man arrived at a 4 lane swimming pool. One lane had you in it, the others were empty. Normal behaviour would be to use an empty one, seeing as lanes 3 and 2 are identical and 1 and 4 differ slightly as they have steps/side. But he wanted the lane that you were swimming in. At best, he’s shown bad etiquette. At worst, he was trying to intimidate you out.

How anyone can see this as innocent is beyond me. He swam directly UNDERNEATH the op when the pool was otherwise 100% empty. Absolutely cunty.

He didn’t do anything wrong…

It is when the rest of the pool is completely empty.

No, as another poster has also stated, it's not actually that abnormal to swim under others.

So arsehole can come with both a penis and vagina attached

😂😂

Im stealing that one for the future!

In the normal world, he didn't.
As for reddit, pot, kettle, black.
Also, no apology for wrongly assuming my nationality because a Scottish person couldn't possibly like German words?

I still don’t see what he did wrong? Or how he was being “territorial”? I am a middling speed swimmer, sometimes I think I’m going to be faster (or slower) than someone in my lane but often you don’t know until you have swum a few lengths. If he got to the end, and then thought “oh, she’s right behind me” he may have just decided it’s easier to switch lanes. I’ve done that loads of times.

there are lane hogs about for sure, but I can’t see on this occasion how he’s done anything at all to justly call him “territorial”.

So if you’ve always done something a certain way in a certain context that means you never have to adjust your behaviour to be appropriate in a different setting? Right

In the normal world he did.

Amazing! You sound straight out of Reddit.

If he didn't want to be a PITA he would have got into an unoccupied lane in the first place.

I'm most definitely not 'a bloke'.
I'm a woman, just not a 'let's hate all men' type.
HTH.

There’s no “clearly” about it.

He got in a lane - it wasn’t working he got out.

We could also surmise that “clearly” he didn’t want to be a pita!

I don't know if he was trying to force you out of lane 2 or not but when you didn't move he went into lane 3. He wasn't aggressive and he didn't continue to swim in lane 2 with lots of splashing etc. to get on your nerves and force you to move.
So I don't think he was as bad as many swimmers I have experienced.

I don't like swimming in the outside lanes next to the wall and steps because they are slower lanes and people get in and out there. A lot of people in my pool hang around the side or the steps for quite a while after getting in or before leaving. However, I don't think that any of the other lanes belong to me and I'll swim in lane 1 if it is free and the others are occupied but if another lane becomes free I'll swim into it straightaway.

Nobody did encroach though.
Also, my country is Scotland - last time I checked that was still part of the UK.

Are you saying I'm a male?
Ha ha, definitely not.
MN is famous for calling women men just because they aren't men haters.
If a penny has dropped then it's knocked you out and confused you.
Not sure how to prove it though....