To think this takes top place as the most tacky 'flag' example?!!

Nothing racist about this is there? Nah, nothing to see...
FFS

Then there's this (not my picture, but it's in my town). Defo all about patriotism. Certainly nothing nefarious about this. Totally natural place to put the st George's cross...

@Jujujudo

It’s made me think more about this… The Palestinian flag has become more than just solidarity with an oppressed people, it’s become an aggressive symbol against a minority in the UK too. Similarly, the English flag should represent the English nation, but it has recently morphed into a symbol against a minority which shouldn’t be tolerated. It’s a nuanced situation at the moment. And while I agree that it shouldn’t be an issue to display your country’s flag, it becomes an issue when it’s used aggressively and makes people feel uncomfortable. If flags are contentious because of insidious and underlying racism then there should be a blanket ban on them in the interim.

I completely agree with this.

In theory I have no problem with people flying flags of their choice and I agree that the St George's Cross has been unfairly demonised historically (mainly because its associated with the working class and a particular type of person).

But in practice I just wouldn't fly an English flag (or a Palestinian flag or a Pride Flag or a Union Jack for that matter). For the same reasons that I wouldn't ever become an obsessive fan of any particular football club. It's facile tribalism which doesn't make sense to me emotionally and I think it's largely negative in its impact.

I think the idea that you are automatically "better" than someone else because of the accident of where you were born or your ethnicity or which football club you support is deeply silly and childish and lacks any kind of intellectual rigour or consistency. And now more than ever, while its being hijacked by people with unpleasant agendas, I question people's motives for wanting to plaster their national identity across everything.

Fine, but I do know some MNers I've met over the years.i haven't actually met Simon IRL, but I trust he is who he says he is, that aside, I don't think it's on to call him a liar.

It’s made me think more about this… The Palestinian flag has become more than just solidarity with an oppressed people, it’s become an aggressive symbol against a minority in the UK too. Similarly, the English flag should represent the English nation, but it has recently morphed into a symbol against a minority which shouldn’t be tolerated. It’s a nuanced situation at the moment. And while I agree that it shouldn’t be an issue to display your country’s flag, it becomes an issue when it’s used aggressively and makes people feel uncomfortable. If flags are contentious because of insidious and underlying racism then there should be a blanket ban on them in the interim.

They have as insurance need the crime reference for a claim as well, I imagine the police will respond in a few weeks, what a complete waste of their resources.

Well seeing as this is the Internet and none of us know who anyone is on here I take the majority of stuff with a very large pinch of salt.

Are you saying you don't believe @Simonjt (a long term, balanced 'real' poster) or his mum?

I don't much care what he does to his own house, but I'd be involving the police if he spray painted anything of mine.

I think we've all started a poster or similar and not left enough room for all the letters.
When we were 10.

@MyHeartyCoralSnail

I rather live next to this than someone with a Palestinian flag (often some unthinking woke terrorist supporter)

It's not either or is it? I'd avoid buying a home anywhere where people think plastering any flag across the front of their property is a smart move. Bunch of morons.

As it was in all likelihood down to support England, during a national sports competition, it probably isn't there now.

I rather live next to this than someone with a Palestinian flag (often some unthinking woke terrorist supporter)

I have zero issue with anyone displaying the country’s flag in England. I have more issue with the terrorist supporters flying the flag of a country run by terrorists. Presumably they understand holding the Palestinian flag in the UK is because they support homophobia and terrorism.

There’s a group of often middle class women who seem to have lost all critical thinking skills

@Redrosesposies

These posts are all a bit Emily Thornberry (aka Lady Nugee and in my opinion, the worst, massively entitled, patronising, champagne socialist, closely followed by Angela Rayner

Angela Rayner??? Her childhood was on the breadline. Serious underclass background. You don’t actually know what a champagne socialist is do you?

The thing is, while this flag stuff might feel grassroots on the surface, it IS being orchestrated by some pretty opaque and shady organisations. Nothing wrong with flags per se, the issue is why this is happening and the motives behind it. Quite an illuminating bit of exposé here:

xcancel.com/docrussjackson/status/1958229505706971418#m

These posts are all a bit Emily Thornberry (aka Lady Nugee and in my opinion, the worst, massively entitled, patronising, champagne socialist, closely followed by Angela Rayner).
It might make the Labour party sit up and take note that vast swathes of the population and not just the lower class white people that folk like you look down on, are very concerned about feeling like second class citizens in their own country but I very much doubt it.

Watch the bottom fall out of the property market wherever this is…

No one would buy a house on the same street as this wazzock.

“Live and let live is a wonderful philosophy “

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It certainly is. But many people joining in with Raising the Colours or whatever it’s called are doing it because they are racist and do want to send a message to non native and/or dark skinned people that they aren’t welcome in this country. They only believe in the above philosophy when it’s applied to themselves and their freedoms.

And to suggest this isn’t the case is highly disingenuous.

Im all for flags. Think they can look joyous and wonderful. Right now though the motivations of many suddenly putting one up or doing shit vandalism in an attempt to DIY it, aren’t wonderful and joyous at all.

Our flag is not racist. Don't be daft.

We live in England and DS has the Welsh flag in his bedroom window

A flag is genuinely harmless and all the shitstirring is from the anti-flag obsessives. Just look at this nasty thread and the vile names the poor owner of that house is being called. There's no need. Like I said, it's the acceptable hate now for a certain type of person.

Well if you do understand and just don’t give a shit then there’s no point continuing this conversation. It’s not genuinely harmless which is the point you’re choosing to ignore with every single response you write.

Yes I do care about other people, I don’t live in the world alone. Live and let live isn't limitless, e.g. if how you want to live is to stir up hatred and intolerance then people shouldn’t be expected to just take it on the chin.

I disagree. We've got the section of the middle-class who with what they believe are the right™️ left-wing, worldly and cosmopolitan opinions to thank for it. They class patriotism as something working-class and common as shown by the extremely unpleasant insults that posters feel emboldened to throw around on this thread so would like to shame it out of people, or maybe just enjoy the opportunity to have 2 minutes of hate at one of the few remaining targets for bigotry now that we all agree racism is bad.

Their house their choice!
Would I want it next door? No probably not.....but do I have the energy to get upset about about other people's tacky house decor .... no!