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To think life is a bit pointless for many if you don't have much money

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Potato35 · 25/08/2025 19:26

This obviously doesn't apply to people who are happy with the bare minimum or are perhaps living mortgage or rent free or don't need to work.
Being on a low income restricts your life in so many ways. It's not about wanting millions and a luxurious lifestyle, but..
Imagine being able to go to the supermarket and not have to calculate the cost of everything to the last penny
To have choice over where you buy clothes, not just second hand/Primark etc.
To have more options about the size and conditions of your home and be able to afford the cost of renovations
Can afford more things like vitamins, supplements, health and beauty treatments
Can see more of the world
You can probably afford a pet or children
When your friends want to go to higher end restaurants you can afford to go and not just get a starter and a tap water
You can afford better food

What's the point of living to just earn a low wage and just get by? Where's the fun in life?
Somebody has to do the minimum wage jobs because many of these jobs are essential to society, like working as a carer.

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Kirbert2 · 25/08/2025 22:31

My son almost died last year. He wasn't expected to survive but he did against all of the odds.

We don't have much money but I feel incredibly grateful. I think people take a lot of things for granted.

Give me a simple life any day as long as my child is healthy, that is what makes me rich and it is far from pointless.

Cinaferna · 25/08/2025 22:30

BlueJuniper94 · 25/08/2025 20:55

I hear what you are saying but do you have any more specific suggestions, qualifications, routes you would recommend

I heard there is a massive shortage of plumbers and trade skills in general. If I were starting out (and had any aptitude for it) I'd train as a plumber or electrician.

CarpetKnees · 25/08/2025 22:29

I don't think anyone will disagree that life is easier when you are financially secure,

I completely disagree that 'life is pointless' when you have to budget though.

Millions of us either currently live or have lived a life such as you described. I feel quite insulted that you are suggesting our lives are pointless.
I've contributed a lot to my family and to society. My life has definitely not been pointless.

Cinaferna · 25/08/2025 22:28

I was very poor for years. Could never afford new clothes. Never even occurred to me to look at shoes except during the sales. Never went on holiday. But I became really good at having free fun. Free music festivals, theatre tickets, talks, concerts, exhibitions, meeting up with friends for walks, wild swims etc. Life was still fun. It is way less stressful now I have enough money. But it was still really good fun when I had none.

Rewis · 25/08/2025 22:21

But like, what's the alternative?

grizzlyoldbear · 25/08/2025 22:14

I think a simple life can be good.
I live opposite a marina and people live on their boats for £250 per month, and they look really happy. (They're not supposed to, but they do)

BeltaLodaLife · 25/08/2025 22:06

WallaceinAnderland · 25/08/2025 19:34

Life is pointless anyway. I mean, what are we actually here for. We are born, we age, we die. Some of us procreate. Even so, the human race will eventually die out and the world will continue to evolve.

Until the sun dies, then the solar system is swallowed up and implodes.

But we really don’t need to think like that!

ForNoisyCat · 25/08/2025 22:02

childofthe607080s · 25/08/2025 19:38

You will always want more

you may have misunderstood the Op? As I read it, she isn’t wanting riches do much as wanting to not be scraping by and counting each penny and wondering his to pay for the very basics. I would agree it’s a crap situation to be in.

BMW6 · 25/08/2025 21:59

Yes - and it will always ALWAYS be so

You cannot balance it. No-one can. It's Life with all its iniquities.

If you took every penny from everyone who wasn't starving you wouldn't change it. It is not possible.

Ineffable23 · 25/08/2025 21:52

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But people can both have an understanding of how little some have while also finding their relative struggles hard as well.

The real travesty here is that there are people who have hundreds of billions of pounds and people who have none. Wealth inequality applies across the world.

DrCoconut · 25/08/2025 21:50

MrsTerryPratchett · 25/08/2025 20:30

It’s basically because lack of money means worry and stress. And the presence of money means choice, freedom and fun.

People will try to tell you different, and wax on about the third world being full of smiling children and what fun they had at university living on beans. But grinding, everyday, long term poverty is miserable.

Yes. I have lived a miserable life with next to no money. I was in an abusive relationship and my ex took all my (low) wages. He refused to work. We lived in a grotty flat and there was usually no gas or electricity beyond the first couple of weeks of the month due to no funds for the meters. Winter was especially difficult as it's so cold and dark, trying to keep clean with a flannel wash and do laundry in the bath in cold water. Everything smelling musty because you can't dry it properly. Living on dry kwik save cereal or burger relish sandwiches due to an incredibly tight food budget. Money gives you options and while I am far from well off now we always have power, clean clothes and home, enough to eat etc. Becoming a single mum was the best move I ever made.

BMW6 · 25/08/2025 21:49

TaborlinTheGreat · 25/08/2025 21:38

There's quite a lot of research that suggests that beyond having enough for the basics, more money doesn't make people happier. I know it sounds untrue, but I guess people have problems however much money they have, and in some cases having lots of money can actually lead to more problems.

I totally get it. Its the "Tale of the Fisherman's Wife" and why the Tale makes sense to everyone who reads or hears it over these past 200 years?

It's a Tale anyone will recognise from any point in history and in the future. Unless humans fundamentally change I think it always will.

Womblingmerrily · 25/08/2025 21:49

Beauty treatments, pets, holidays, posh food and clothes - why?

Do you really think these things will make you happier?

Are you safe, are you warm, do you have clean water, enough to eat, shelter?

As Desiderata says 'Strive to be happy'

Someone2025 · 25/08/2025 21:45

Potato35 · 25/08/2025 20:59

Indeed it's all relative, it's just very restricting. It's little things like going out with friends and they're on their 4th cocktail and 3 courses, whereas a meal there is the same as your weekly shopping budget so you have to limit it every time.
Buying as much as you can from the Tesco value type ranges, having one repair bill wiping out the minimal savings you have.
I know these are first world problems and it could be so much worse, but it is draining.

What are you doing to try and get out of this situation?

londongirl12 · 25/08/2025 21:44

someone in my family has 5 kids, never worked, neither does her DP. Kids don’t do anything at all. I feel like they just exist, feel sorry for the kids.

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Espressoicecream · 25/08/2025 21:43

Ps when I worked i spent more on hair, clothes, commuting, dry cleaning, networking events, lunch and coffees. And was always surrounded by people who had "more". It didn't make me happy.

Someone2025 · 25/08/2025 21:43

Gardendiary · 25/08/2025 21:25

But this isn’t actually helpful, because we need the minimum wagers like the carers and delivery drivers. The issue is too much wealth at the top and not enough going to the workers.

there will always be new (younger) minimum wagers coming up the line, also unfortunately not all minimum wagers will be able to get out of that situation, only the ones with drive s as no the will will progress on to higher paid jobs

Jimmyneutronsforehead · 25/08/2025 21:43

BlueJuniper94 · 25/08/2025 21:38

What roles specifically

I trained as an infant feeding peer support worker, and some of my colleagues went on to train as doulas, baby massage therapists and even midwives which opened the door for them to go private too as many contracts were accepted from 9 hours to 18 hours a week, allowing you to have multiple roles under the same team. Those who accepted work privately got higher pay, company cars and could choose their own hours.

I started by gaining a level 2 infant feeding qualification provided through training, before actively volunteering, and you can progress from there.

smoulderingmould · 25/08/2025 21:42

I think this is why more and more young people aren't having dc.

Espressoicecream · 25/08/2025 21:40

I can take my amazing toddler to the woods and "go on a bear hunt" or act out the gruffalo. Costs us nothing and is wonderful fun.

I can find amazing second hand bargains in charity shops and grow my own veg and take enormous pride in keeping my home tidy and my child loved and protected. None of this costs a huge amount.

Making cakes with my toddler is more fun than buying them, going to the park and pretending to be the Paw Patrol is more fun than some theme park and we can take a thermos of tea.

Lemons/lemonade ain't it?

And I'm not a trad wife, but my goodness i love being a mum and a wife after years of stress in jobs trying to get ahead and earn more.

And yes of course it'd be nice to have a spare bedroom, but y'know what, my mother can't come and stay and that's a bonus! And while I'd love a massive bedroom and ensuite, we have what we need not what we necessarily want.

Life is living it, experiencing it, making connections and growing with it.

Someone2025 · 25/08/2025 21:40

BlueJuniper94 · 25/08/2025 20:55

I hear what you are saying but do you have any more specific suggestions, qualifications, routes you would recommend

Depends on the individual person and their interests, strengths and weaknesses, everyone is different, you need to think realistically about what you would like to do and then see what courses are available that might get you a shoe in the door of that industry, it can start off with a small course and once you get into the industry build from there

Drive and confidence are imperative

WunTooThree · 25/08/2025 21:40

Thegrassroots26 · 25/08/2025 21:39

I think you make some very valid points OP. I do think though that relationships can bring a lot of happiness to life. So healthy romantic relationships or healthy family bonds and friendship. These don’t cost money, but obviously lots of people don’t have those and that is a shame and added to money issues can lead to a real sadness or sense of ‘what’s the point’. For many, life is not easy.

This. Life is so much more than money. It is the connections you have too.

Thegrassroots26 · 25/08/2025 21:39

I think you make some very valid points OP. I do think though that relationships can bring a lot of happiness to life. So healthy romantic relationships or healthy family bonds and friendship. These don’t cost money, but obviously lots of people don’t have those and that is a shame and added to money issues can lead to a real sadness or sense of ‘what’s the point’. For many, life is not easy.

BlueJuniper94 · 25/08/2025 21:38

Jimmyneutronsforehead · 25/08/2025 21:37

The OU have been advertising loads of courses, some free.

I am unemployed (disabled), and love to fill my time doing courses from the centre of excellence which usually cost me about £15, but I have also volunteered, gained qualifications while volunteering which opens up high paying and flexible job opportunities. Some of my cohorts even went on to do further training for additional pay, which I sadly couldn't do but the progression is there and there are many different volunteering opportunities. Mine was with our local council supporting women's services, and postnatal services, community and hospital based.

What roles specifically