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Plane seats - refused to swap

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Annoyed321 · 25/08/2025 16:28

please bear with me, I really need to vent but I need advice too.

Holiday with DH, 8 year old DD and 5 year old DS. Our seats were allocated away from each other. Not even on same aisle literally scattered on different parts of the plane. DH books and sorts checking in and I don’t usually get involved. He tried to apparently check in 24 hours before the flight but there was an error (he didn’t tell me), he was unable to check in and was advised online chat to see a member of staff at airport when we were flying, we get to check in on day of flight and lady says she can’t sit us together. I pleaded with her to at least let there be one of us sat with each child, no problem about all 4 of us sitting together.

She said to ask people when we get to the seat if anyone will swap with us. When we got there everyone refused, which I don’t really blame them as they checked in and chose their seats we didn’t or couldn’t.

I got very emotional as my 5 year old was crying about not sitting next to me DH as usual was unbothered and was just standing around looking unfazed. I’m really embarrassed about my reaction but he said it’s fine and I said it’s not fine “I’m not having my kids sat in between strangers”. It wasn’t as dramatic as I’m making out as it was over very quickly as the cabin crew we spoke to on boarding were able to allocate 2 seats together. Myself and my 5 year old took it and DH sat 2 rows In front of DD who was sat inbetween 2 men, DH was also sat between 2 guys so made no difference where I put her.

I was upset the entire flight and kept asking DH to keep an eye on DD, DH kept rolling his eyes and ignoring me. I felt like a bad mother leaving my child sat there with strangers. I feel embarrassed incase anyone videoed me at the start asking/pleading with people to please swap seats to allow me to sit next to my 2 kids. I only asked about 2 people and they avoided eye contact and ignored me, again I get it.

advice: DH is old fashioned (or should say a complete knob) he won’t share the booking details of flight with me as he’s worried I will mess up the booking, like I’m a stupid child! So I need advice please how can I make sure I am sat next to my kids on flight back home? I will need a booking reference I know which I will have to keep asking him for but the holiday was booked via Expedia and I think that’s what messed up when was trying to check in online 24 hours before. How can I check in if flights were booked with Expedia? I will call them if he doesn’t share booking ref but I doubt they will speak to me due to data protection. Any advice please?

Please be kind and don’t make me feel worse than I feel. Can anyone at least relate with me about how upset I was about DD sat alone? I am a survivor of childhood SA so my feelings might be out of place but I also read a news article literally a few days before flight if a 15 year old girl getting assaulted by a fellow passenger during a flight do these things do happen.

OP posts:
NuovaPilbeam · 25/08/2025 19:20

If it is one of the budget airlines your only option is to pay extra to book specific seats together. If you wait til 24 hours before, some holidays will have been sold as packages with booked seats included and the only unbooked seats may be random ones scattered through the plane, leaving the airline no choice but to separate you.

Alexandra2001 · 25/08/2025 19:19

Overnightoatsareyummy · 25/08/2025 18:39

Come on now, we know most peoples reason to not move is self entitlement and grumpiness.

Uh? Easyjet charged me £50 pp per flight, so £200 to chose seats for me and my dd.
These things aren't free, why exactly should i move for someone who is a cheapskate?

The £200 was almost twice the cost of the flights

bugalugs45 · 25/08/2025 19:18

ThePure · 25/08/2025 17:25

This is actually genius and would definitely work

I’d sit in the aisle for 4 hours for £100 🤣

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 25/08/2025 19:15

TigerRag · 25/08/2025 19:12

Well maybe the parents should have thought ahead and paid for their seats?

Maybe they should. But this does effectively make children's seats more expensive than adult seats, which is rather difficult to justify from a moral standpoint.

Gabbycat245 · 25/08/2025 19:14

Overnightoatsareyummy · 25/08/2025 19:08

Absolutely not true. I am
the first to jump seats for an elderly person or
aomeone with visual disabilities. It doesn’t seem you are aware that people with invisible disabilities wear lanyards now.
so spare the lecture please. I also can ask them kindly first if there was a particular reason for them to be seated there. 9 times out of 10, most individuals I have come across have been kind and courteous to the point they help us with our bags or try to entertain the kids.
Im guessing you are the other 1 in 10!!! Presuming you have never travelled woth young children and don’t understand the complexities of it.
But saying all that, I usually travel business or pick my seats wisely.

Edited

Oh good God 😂

I have a 3 year old. I travel with her regularly on public transport. We are about to take her second trip on a plane. I know how stressful it is!

I have a disability - for which I have just obtained a sunflower lanyard. It's a developmental disability (i.e. I've always had it) but I've never had a lanyard before - and I've probably flown 50 times in my life. I haven't worn one before because I didn't particularly want to be singled out for my disability, but I've given in and gotten one for this trip. Not all disabled people wear them. There's a reason you see posters about invisible disabilities on trains!

As my disability isn't physical, I will always offer a pregnant woman, elderly person or disabled person a seat during the (minimum) 8 trips a week I take on public transport.

You know nothing about me.

sumestes · 25/08/2025 19:13

mylovedoesitgood · 25/08/2025 19:06

In the plane scenario, the responsibility is always with the parents to do what’s best and in the context of this thread and that scenario, pay to sit together (if that helps). If you don’t pay for your seats, why would you take the chance upon booking of something stressful happening as a result of you all not sitting together?

Edited to stay polite. I am out now!

TigerRag · 25/08/2025 19:12

sumestes · 25/08/2025 19:01

Not really. Young kids panic about things. They are at risk of not being treated well by adults around them and not old enough to be assertive. If something had gone wrong with the flight it would make things more serious and dangerous and terrifying for the children on their own especially if they were surrounded by self centred types.

Well maybe the parents should have thought ahead and paid for their seats?

youalright · 25/08/2025 19:11

Overnightoatsareyummy · 25/08/2025 19:08

Absolutely not true. I am
the first to jump seats for an elderly person or
aomeone with visual disabilities. It doesn’t seem you are aware that people with invisible disabilities wear lanyards now.
so spare the lecture please. I also can ask them kindly first if there was a particular reason for them to be seated there. 9 times out of 10, most individuals I have come across have been kind and courteous to the point they help us with our bags or try to entertain the kids.
Im guessing you are the other 1 in 10!!! Presuming you have never travelled woth young children and don’t understand the complexities of it.
But saying all that, I usually travel business or pick my seats wisely.

Edited

Im disabled and i don't wear a lanyard their a disgrace to disabled people.

youalright · 25/08/2025 19:10

sumestes · 25/08/2025 18:53

I doubt that. It is mistakes. Parents who are worried about sitting away from their dc are not going to take the risk.

I think what it comes down to is that around 50 percent of the population would move, 50 percent wouldn't or couldn't I am just surprised that all four of the men were in the wrong 50 percent!

I find it odd that their where 4 single men sat together on a flight to a holiday destination during the school holidays. It isnt a mistake their is a thread on here every week about this exact same situation

Overnightoatsareyummy · 25/08/2025 19:08

Gabbycat245 · 25/08/2025 19:03

But it doesn't really matter does it, because you wouldn't know or have the time to discern whether they were grumpy or disabled 🤷‍♀️

Absolutely not true. I am
the first to jump seats for an elderly person or
aomeone with visual disabilities. It doesn’t seem you are aware that people with invisible disabilities wear lanyards now.
so spare the lecture please. I also can ask them kindly first if there was a particular reason for them to be seated there. 9 times out of 10, most individuals I have come across have been kind and courteous to the point they help us with our bags or try to entertain the kids.
Im guessing you are the other 1 in 10!!! Presuming you have never travelled woth young children and don’t understand the complexities of it.
But saying all that, I usually travel business or pick my seats wisely.

mylovedoesitgood · 25/08/2025 19:06

sumestes · 25/08/2025 19:01

Not really. Young kids panic about things. They are at risk of not being treated well by adults around them and not old enough to be assertive. If something had gone wrong with the flight it would make things more serious and dangerous and terrifying for the children on their own especially if they were surrounded by self centred types.

In the plane scenario, the responsibility is always with the parents to do what’s best and in the context of this thread and that scenario, pay to sit together (if that helps). If you don’t pay for your seats, why would you take the chance upon booking of something stressful happening as a result of you all not sitting together?

sumestes · 25/08/2025 19:03

OnlyMabelInTheBuilding · 25/08/2025 19:01

Well for one, my seat would be next to DH. Who is the other side of us; I couldn’t give a toss. Makes no difference to me if it’s a child, it’s not my child, it’s not my responsibility.

Well I think that indicates which 50 percent you'd be in!

Goodness, what a society we live in! Perhaps one day you will need the kindness of strangers, would you want peop to walk by and say "not my responsibility"?

Gabbycat245 · 25/08/2025 19:03

Overnightoatsareyummy · 25/08/2025 18:39

Come on now, we know most peoples reason to not move is self entitlement and grumpiness.

But it doesn't really matter does it, because you wouldn't know or have the time to discern whether they were grumpy or disabled 🤷‍♀️

sumestes · 25/08/2025 19:01

mylovedoesitgood · 25/08/2025 18:58

There’s nothing special about a young family struggling on a plane journey - all they had to do was to pay for seats, like everyone else.

Not really. Young kids panic about things. They are at risk of not being treated well by adults around them and not old enough to be assertive. If something had gone wrong with the flight it would make things more serious and dangerous and terrifying for the children on their own especially if they were surrounded by self centred types.

OnlyMabelInTheBuilding · 25/08/2025 19:01

OhHellolittleone · 25/08/2025 18:28

Everyone has their reasons… well I think often these days they’ve probably been hyped up by Threads like this one. Not all reasons are good reasons. Why would someone be so determined to keep their seat that they would rather have a random child next to them.

Well for one, my seat would be next to DH. Who is the other side of us; I couldn’t give a toss. Makes no difference to me if it’s a child, it’s not my child, it’s not my responsibility.

sumestes · 25/08/2025 18:59

Overnightoatsareyummy · 25/08/2025 18:55

Exactly. It’s social etiquette. Like moving seats for a pregnant or disabled person ir mum with a pram on a train. You move to make all
passwngers lives easier. Unless the single person would prefer to be in the middle of a crying toddler who can’t equalise or have my elbows in their face while I breastfeed, fine by me! It’s of no benefit to them, meanwhile a young family is struggling. But if you are
one of those rude people I hope you enjoy your journey!

This is true too. I found that some people moved immediately when they saw I was pregnant and others didn't even when I asked and when I was absolutely huge - though someone else usually overheard and got up instead. Which was kind of them. In fact, what I found a bit amusing was that when I was not pregnant, suited and booted, looking fabulous, men would always get up for me even when I didn't want them to, to offer their seat, yet when pregnant and not looking my best, some men wouldn't move!!

Overnightoatsareyummy · 25/08/2025 18:59

mylovedoesitgood · 25/08/2025 18:58

There’s nothing special about a young family struggling on a plane journey - all they had to do was to pay for seats, like everyone else.

But they have!! That’s your judgment thinking they haven’t!!!’

mylovedoesitgood · 25/08/2025 18:58

Overnightoatsareyummy · 25/08/2025 18:55

Exactly. It’s social etiquette. Like moving seats for a pregnant or disabled person ir mum with a pram on a train. You move to make all
passwngers lives easier. Unless the single person would prefer to be in the middle of a crying toddler who can’t equalise or have my elbows in their face while I breastfeed, fine by me! It’s of no benefit to them, meanwhile a young family is struggling. But if you are
one of those rude people I hope you enjoy your journey!

There’s nothing special about a young family struggling on a plane journey - all they had to do was to pay for seats, like everyone else.

AlpacaMittens · 25/08/2025 18:57

youalright · 25/08/2025 18:48

But its not a single mistake its what a lot of entitled parents do on a regular basis as they know their will be some mug on the plane who will swap with them and then when nobody does they cry and have a tantrum about it

100%, lots of people I know who have children proudly say so. "Why should I pay to book a seat? I don't want to". Quickly followed by how they don't want to seat away from their children. Put those together and it's painfully obvious that in most cases it's cheeky entitlement.

Overnightoatsareyummy · 25/08/2025 18:55

RitaRetro · 25/08/2025 18:49

Yet nothing self entitled in expecting them to move?

Exactly. It’s social etiquette. Like moving seats for a pregnant or disabled person ir mum with a pram on a train. You move to make all
passwngers lives easier. Unless the single person would prefer to be in the middle of a crying toddler who can’t equalise or have my elbows in their face while I breastfeed, fine by me! It’s of no benefit to them, meanwhile a young family is struggling. But if you are
one of those rude people I hope you enjoy your journey!

PaddlingSwan · 25/08/2025 18:55

I am getting really annoyed about the number of posts concerning aeroplane seating.
There are multiple options to sort this, depending on the "grade" of flight you have chosen.
To give an example. my husband, step-son and I flew to St Lucia some years ago. We wanted the equivalent of business class, but clearly as a 3-threesome, this was not going to happen. We got 2 business seats and 1 right at the back of the plane. No issue, as my husband and I alernated.
Either book all seats together when first booking or suck it up?

AlpacaMittens · 25/08/2025 18:54

Annoyed321 · 25/08/2025 16:40

I really don’t mind paying and DH has faults but he definitely wouldn’t skimp on paying extra to sit together all other times we have always sat other this has never happened. I was shocked they would actually sit kids away from parents. I genuinely think it was an error on the computer.

Edited

The computer will first allocate seats to those who have actually paid to book them. Then, it'll start allocating children next to parents - depending on seat availability. Sounds like no such seats were available on your flight as they had been booked by others. Maybe book them properly next time?

sumestes · 25/08/2025 18:53

youalright · 25/08/2025 18:48

But its not a single mistake its what a lot of entitled parents do on a regular basis as they know their will be some mug on the plane who will swap with them and then when nobody does they cry and have a tantrum about it

I doubt that. It is mistakes. Parents who are worried about sitting away from their dc are not going to take the risk.

I think what it comes down to is that around 50 percent of the population would move, 50 percent wouldn't or couldn't I am just surprised that all four of the men were in the wrong 50 percent!

Sussexswain · 25/08/2025 18:52

Cosyblankets · 25/08/2025 18:51

Its 30 with E J

Ahh yes you are right!!

Cosyblankets · 25/08/2025 18:51

Sussexswain · 25/08/2025 18:42

Not for a specific airline that starts with E and J and is orange… it’s 7 days

Its 30 with E J