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To be fascinated by tidy people

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tangerinemagic · 25/08/2025 14:14

I’m just not tidy. Nor is my husband. We try. Actually very hard. We have two young children and a dog but there is literally stuff everywhere, all of the time.

I live in London, so we naturally have many parent friends right on our doorstep and there is a ‘drop in’ culture where we might wrap up a playground or common trip and head to each others houses.

Ours is not fit for that kind of spontaneity but others fling open their doors at any time and it’s like no one even lives there.

when conversations come up about chores, cleaning, tidiness, I recoil. They really are extremely tidy people and with young kids. You can’t mistake walking into a tidy persons house, it just feels, different.

The floors and sofa/furniture in our house just don’t look like theirs, even if you have a whip round and tidy you can tell.

So, tidy people, tell me, how do you do it. What are the tips. Was this nurture growing up in a tidy household? Or something you learned? AIBU to be ashamed my pram, car, house is always in need of a clean.

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Horses7 · 26/08/2025 20:01

I think you are a teensy bit lazier than your friends and most of the posters on here.
Get a grip and you and H get your home in order - it’s not rocket science, get inspiration and enthusiasm from PP
Also your stuff should really not be ‘mucky’ in this day and age - you’ve got hot soapy water and cleaning materials.
Many of your friends WILL be judging you even if they deny it.

BertieBotts · 26/08/2025 19:58

EmeraldShamrock000 · 26/08/2025 19:03

It a spectrum, there is a middle ground, in extreme cases Adhd is Ocd's cousin.

This is very true actually. I was listening to a podcast the other day and they were saying that research has found hoarding disorder is actually a type of OCD. It's funny (not haha) because when you think OCD, most people would think of obsessively clean and tidy, but it can go totally the opposite way because with hoarding, the compulsion is to rescue things from being wasted.

There is an overlap between hoarding behaviour and ADHD but it's like someone said upthread - the person with ADHD usually wants to get rid of stuff but gets overwhelmed by all the steps of it or trying to perfectionise it. You can be a hoarder and also have ADHD, but most people with ADHD who struggle with mess are more "accidental hoarders" (which is a great phrase!)

When I had my ADHD diagnosis I did also flag up for OCD and the doctor didn't look into it, she said she felt my OCD flags were just coping mechanisms I'd used to try and manage my ADHD. I wonder about it sometimes but it's not generally bad enough for me to seek any further information.

ADHD is weird in that it is a disorder of extremes - some people are extremely messy and disorganised and can't get on top of it whereas others need to have everything organised so tightly because that is their coping mechanism.

Someone mentioned Mounjaro and with eating it's the same - some people with ADHD can't stop binge eating or stick to a diet. I have the opposite where (unmedicated) I lose track of time and forget to eat a proper meal until I get shaky, which happens after about 3 days.

Theeffingcleaner · 26/08/2025 19:51

I am a private house cleaner and also have OCD! So cleaning comes natural to me. I grew up with a mum that was very house proud and also one set of my grandparents were the same always a clean and tidy house. I have 2 teens that are very messy leaving clothes and rubbish everywhere so I bought hampers for them to put dirty clothes in Small waste bins with a bin bag in so easy to empty rubbish and they are kept in their rooms , I do washing every other day to keep washing loads down , once dried folded and put away . When mine were little I found getting them to help put toys alway in big tubs or storage boxes with lids helped. De cluttering is a good way to keep on top of things , if not needed get rid of it. I have a pet dog so I have to vac and mop daily.
bathrooms I tend to do every time shower is used but toilet gets wiped daily and also sink from toothpaste splashes. If everything has a place you will find that giving a quick vacuum around will keep it feeling clean and tidy, same as mopping. I always tend to clean kitchen as I go along especially if I’m cooking as it keeps it tidy. I also polish daily

all I can say is do a little each day and set yourself a task each day of cleaning eg bathroom then nxt day bedrooms and so on. Once you start to get it all under control you will want to keep it that way. Good luck hope you manage to conquer getting there❤️

TheBroonOneAndTheWhiteOne · 26/08/2025 19:50

Sorry to say but you sound very lazy!!

Peak Mumsnet.
Don't hold back!
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Megank1989 · 26/08/2025 19:50

I grew up in a very tidy house so for me it’s the default. It’s obviously harder now with a baby but I physically can’t relax if there’s too much clutter about, it makes me so anxious. My husband grew up in a very cluttered house and has swerved in the opposite direction! We have a cleaner every two weeks but mostly its a case of clearing out on the semi regular to make sure we don’t have too much crap.

BertieBotts · 26/08/2025 19:46

FurForksSake · 26/08/2025 18:07

We need a Mounjaro for messiness.

There is, it's called Elvanse Grin

ednakenneth · 26/08/2025 19:45

If you hate it that much,why don't you get a cleaner? To keep a house clean doesn't take up that much time. Clean as you go along and don't sit down after every little task like taking the kids out to the park,etc
Sorry to say but you sound very lazy!!
I don't spend that much time cleaning and I am sat here writing this. I've cleaned the kitchen straight after dinner before sitting down and I have the rest of the evening to myself and my husband.

CoffeeLipstickKeys · 26/08/2025 19:22

Joystir59 · 26/08/2025 19:18

I don't have possessions I don't actively use or feel really attached to. I have good Sto rage but that's partly because ii don't have loads of stuff I don't need. I tidy up as I go. I live with my partner and 2 dogs in a 2 bed 1 bath bungalow. Our house d garden and 2 outbuildings are tidy at all times. Neither of us can stand a lot of mess.

I’m inexplicably overly attached to items and it’s a wrench to throw out but I do it to maintain order

Joystir59 · 26/08/2025 19:18

I don't have possessions I don't actively use or feel really attached to. I have good Sto rage but that's partly because ii don't have loads of stuff I don't need. I tidy up as I go. I live with my partner and 2 dogs in a 2 bed 1 bath bungalow. Our house d garden and 2 outbuildings are tidy at all times. Neither of us can stand a lot of mess.

paddlinglikecrazy · 26/08/2025 19:12

I’d say I’m quite tidy, someone could pop round and it wouldn’t concern me, but there’s loads of signs of life and kids living here too.
I never leave plates or an untidy kitchen for long, always wiping down worktops. I fly hoover round most days and sinks and bathrooms always clean.
my 11 year old seems to collect stuff wherever he goes so every day or two I’ll scoop it all up and put it in his room.
i grew up in a really untidy house. I was always embarrassing to bring friends over, I think this is why I’m the opposite to my Mum.
My garage is a bit of a mess though.

justasking111 · 26/08/2025 19:10

Bunchymcbunchface · 26/08/2025 19:02

My BF is super tidy. She ruthlessly throws absolutely everything away and she literally never stops.

My MIL was like this. They had a house full of beautiful antiques inherited from his family. FIL came home one day it was almost all gone. A man had knocked on the door asking if she had any furniture to sell. She said yes come back with a big van.

EmeraldShamrock000 · 26/08/2025 19:03

It a spectrum, there is a middle ground, in extreme cases Adhd is Ocd's cousin.

Bunchymcbunchface · 26/08/2025 19:02

My BF is super tidy. She ruthlessly throws absolutely everything away and she literally never stops.

Lourdes12 · 26/08/2025 18:58

Having less stuff means less time to tidy and more time to clean

Someone2025 · 26/08/2025 18:56

OriginalUsername2 · 25/08/2025 14:19

The one touch rule changes everything. I trained myself to do that because I hate clearing up, it’s so boring.

Also tidy as you go…..well I try and do that anyway as I also detest spending ages tidying / cleaning

Bikergran · 26/08/2025 18:55

It's constant low-level vigilance. Stuff like when you walk in the door, immediately hang up your coat, put your shoes away. Get rid of extraneous clutter. Use the nursery school mantra taught to my grandson: "Choose it, use it, put it away." I detest dirt and mess, it makes my skin crawl.

Delatron · 26/08/2025 18:48

FurForksSake · 26/08/2025 18:07

We need a Mounjaro for messiness.

I’m gonna be controversial and suggest it’s probably ADHD meds.

Because who really wants to be messy and appear lazy? But if you really dig deep there’s other issues at play. And I’m talking about myself here. I simply wouldn’t be able to get up at 4.45am and clean before working a full day. It would break me

I do marvel at the amount of energy people have for domestic tasks. But I could quite happily go out and run 8 miles so I’m no couch potato. I just can’t channel any energy or focus in to domestic tasks and I find it incredibly hard.

I spend hours cleaning but then everything gets messy again so quickly and by then I’ve run out of energy.

FurForksSake · 26/08/2025 18:44

I very much re-wear clothes, unless they are smelly or visibly dirty they get popped into a pile for wearing the next day if I’m staying home or they go back away.

ImTheLittleRedHen · 26/08/2025 18:44

so many posts saying things like “if I use something, I put it away straight after”.
it sounds so simple and so obvious.
but in my life, my time is not my own. I’m constantly interrupted in what I’m doing to go a see to the kids. I can’t go to the toilet for 2 mins without being interrupted by some of the them knocking on the door asking where their teddy is. Or asking for a drink of water. Or I have to leave what I’m doing to break up a fight or see to a child that fell over etc. etc.
it’s actually kinda hard to see things through to completion every time. Maybe it’s the stage they’re at and it’ll get easier. I hope so. Mess makes me anxious.

Somehowgirl · 26/08/2025 18:42

Ddakji · 26/08/2025 18:24

But some of us have gone from being messy (and as a teen I was horrifically so - you literally couldn’t see the floor of my bedroom) to being pretty tidy.

I think that’s more admirable. You have to work at it more compared to naturally tidy people. Although I reckon most people go through a messier phase as teens and most outgrow it.

BrendaSmall · 26/08/2025 18:37

tangerinemagic · 25/08/2025 14:25

So sometimes never sitting down? My kids will be up soon and if I’d tidied everywhere I’d be so exhausted I wouldn’t have energy for the afternoon.

Absolute rubbish!!
you obviously haven’t got a lot of go in you!!

As soon as we get in from work, we sort out our work bags, lunch boxes by the sink and bags away, ( it used to be the same when the children got home from school, lunch boxes by the sink, bags away and then sort out what they needed for the next day at school)
After work we will have a quick wash, change our clothes, dirty clothes go into the laundry basket not thrown on the floor or hung on furniture, very rare that we wear the same thing twice. Coats hung up on the coat hooks and shoes put away on the shoe rack, tidy as you go along.
Hoovering and dusting gets done after work as we’re up at 5.30 so don’t do it before work.
Tea cooked and eaten then dishes done wash dried and put away, pack lunches done for the next day and everything wiped down again.
Any washing will be picked in from the line or taken off the clothes horse if raining and couldn’t hang out that morning, ironed and put away.
Then time to sit down, we don’t sit down until everything is tidy!

CoralSea · 26/08/2025 18:29

So, tidy people, tell me, how do you do it. What are the tips. Was this nurture growing up in a tidy household? Or something you learned? AIBU to be ashamed my pram, car, house is always in need of a clean.

I am very tidy. I grew up in a very tidy household. I have no idea if it's nature or nurture. I don't find it hard at all. We have minimum stuff (still a lot but not bucket loads of shit we don't need). If I haven't used something in a year, it goes (charity, tip etc). I always clean the kitchen before going to bed and run the dishwasher at night. I always tidy the lounge in the evening. I just go to bed with the house tidy. Kids are brought up to do the same. I think as it's so much 2nd nature, things never really get out of hand and we are always on top of things. I cannot relax is a messy house. I don't know how others do it. Sometimes, I wish I could let go a bit. but I can't help it.

I don't pile up buckets of laundry either. Just stick in a wash every second day. I almost always use the tumble dryer though as it's quicker and easier than line drying.

Ddakji · 26/08/2025 18:24

Somehowgirl · 26/08/2025 18:22

Yes, I think a lot of the advice posted here only goes so far as well. I reckon messy and tidy people literally see the world differently.

But some of us have gone from being messy (and as a teen I was horrifically so - you literally couldn’t see the floor of my bedroom) to being pretty tidy.

Somehowgirl · 26/08/2025 18:22

WhatterySquash · 26/08/2025 18:07

I agree it is hard to understand - my exMIL would always gasp at my tidy, organised space and wonder how I could do it - whereas I'd look at her mess and clutter and wonder why if she wanted it tidy, didn't she just tidy it up! Likewise my messy DD - if you don't want a mess, put each thing back when you've used it instead of just dropping it!

But this thread does help a bit to hear messy people's POV.

Yes, I think a lot of the advice posted here only goes so far as well. I reckon messy and tidy people literally see the world differently.

lalalala1234321 · 26/08/2025 18:22

Comedycook · 25/08/2025 14:26

I thought I was doing ok...my house is clean enough....its not hugely cluttered but when you walk in its obvious people live there. But I went to a woman's house a while back...she has three teenagers...well I was flabbergasted. There was absolutely zero sign that they existed. It was a total show home. I have two teens, if you came round, you might see a hoodie draped over a kitchen chair, a phone charger on the side, my dds hair band on the kitchen table, my ds headphones on the side of the sofa...but her house? Nothing. I really really wanted to ask her!

I have 2x teenagers and this works if you keep telling them from young age to keep stuff in their rooms rather than leaving everywhere and enforce - mercilessly (including chucking items back into their rooms rather angrily 😆)
I don’t leave my stuff around either - everything goes back to the bag/ drawer/ storage place
it’s so much easier to clean when nothing is lying around and you don’t feel mentally tired by the thought of tiding up before cleaning (I get very overwhelmed if there is too much to do)