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To end marriage due to step children

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HP200 · 25/08/2025 09:11

Probably will be flamed but here goes ….
DH has 2 DC- DD17 and DS13. DD does not visit the house but will tag along on mine and his hobby at the weekend, she will ask and be collected and dropped back at her request. When with us she will chat and be polite (isn’t much help with the hobby 🤣) but is getting grumpy that she can’t actually do the hobby as what we have is not suitable / safe for her.
DH birthday is the day after his DD and I messaged both his children inviting them out for a meal to celebrate both read message and ignored and didn’t even wish him happy birthday.
His DS comes minimum EOW (and whenever else he wants) and will not speak to me at all the whole time. DH has spoken to him time and time again and he states there is not an issue but it’s the same blank stare and no reply every time I talk to him and I feel uncomfortable when he is here and that I can’t relax in my own home. DH thinks it’s fine but I don’t want to feel uncomfortable in my own house and he clearly hates me regardless of what he tells his dad.
we have been together 9 years and parents were separated when we meet due to his mum having an affair so I didn’t end the relationship or anything

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Tiswa · 25/08/2025 12:03

@HP200 ok let me ask you this because information is drip drip drip at the moment.

How is he at school?
Has his behaviour changed?
how long has the anger been going on?

becuase first and foremost this is not about YOU he doesn’t hate you. Nothing in what you have said indicates that:

it does indicate a 13 year old with issues - most likely step father and father related

Foodylicious · 25/08/2025 12:03

Why do you have all the kids together EOW, then EOW with no kids in the house?
Can't you change this?
Surely the kids will be more relaxed if they dont feel they are fighting for attention.

DeborahKerr · 25/08/2025 11:57

How much time does your DH spends with his children without you?

Of course it's not acceptable to be rude, but the kid is being dragged into another person's house, with her child who obviously (and naturally) is the clear favourite. It's not his home, he obviously does not feel at home. He should not be allowed to be rude, but it's understandable he's not over the moon to have to spend time in your house.

How much time does he spends one to one with his dad, to stop making him feel so unwanted.

PrincessScarlett · 25/08/2025 11:55

HP200 · 25/08/2025 11:47

Unfortunately he can be quite nasty to his sister I have once had to step in after I heard arguing and he was about to hit her with a lamp. My son is more chill but obviously not her sibling that she loves with full time so will of course irritate her more than a child EOW.

Is that because she favours your son though? Is SS jealous of your son's relationship with his sister?

Weekmindedfool · 25/08/2025 11:54

limetrees32 · 25/08/2025 11:49

I find the lack of empathy for the SC by the OP surprising .
She doesn't seem interested in their feelings ,nor is she asking for advice on how to ensure that their needs are met or even how to improve her relationship with them .
She does say that she is finding her husband's response to the situation underwhelming ,hence considering ending the marriage .
She doesn't say she loves him and that this will be sad .
Maybe she does feel empathy for the SC and sorrow over ending a relationship but just doesn't express it here .
I do think unless she feels some motivation to improve the relationship with her husband and children she would probably be happier leaving the marriage .

Indeed.

Bananaandmangosmoothie · 25/08/2025 11:52

I think their Dad needs to be making more of an effort to spend quality time with them, and sacrificing some of his hobby time with you at the weekend to spend time with his kids doing what they want to do. He also needs to make it clear to DS that there’s a basic level of courtesy expected in the way he interacts with you, and basically DH not enforcing that is a dealbreaker.

Bananaandmangosmoothie · 25/08/2025 11:52

I think their Dad needs to be making more of an effort to spend quality time with them, and sacrificing some of his hobby time with you at the weekend to spend time with his kids doing what they want to do. He also needs to make it clear to DS that there’s a basic level of courtesy expected in the way he interacts with you, and basically DH not enforcing that is a dealbreaker.

BadDinner · 25/08/2025 11:51

It's so depressingly familiar.

Parents divorce and remarry and the children are expected to slot in and go with the flow. Inevitably what was once a full time parent becomes a fortnightly or weekend one, but even this is shared with the new spouse. Children cannot voice that they are not 100% happy in the situation and normal teenage angst and growing pains are over-analysed, given short shrift and seemed to be deliberate attempts at relationship sabotage, instead of being perfectly acceptable in what should be their 'home from home'. But SP feels it's chiefly their home.

Usually the newly married father stereotypically delegates responsibility for keeping the children happy to the new wife, expecting her to become mother, and fails to show any real initiative, creativity or separate involvement in his DCs from his first marriage lives. But SDC and new DC with current wife more naturally fit in.

This generation then grows up to be criticised as a snow flake generation.

MrsDoubtfire1 · 25/08/2025 11:50

Why on earth would you want to end a marriage because of two step children? It is your marriage too and it is up to you to take some sort of action, either removing yourself when they visit or your husbands takes them out for the day separately. Don't you love him for who he is? Why did you marry him if you thought you would dispose of him when the going got tough?

limetrees32 · 25/08/2025 11:49

I find the lack of empathy for the SC by the OP surprising .
She doesn't seem interested in their feelings ,nor is she asking for advice on how to ensure that their needs are met or even how to improve her relationship with them .
She does say that she is finding her husband's response to the situation underwhelming ,hence considering ending the marriage .
She doesn't say she loves him and that this will be sad .
Maybe she does feel empathy for the SC and sorrow over ending a relationship but just doesn't express it here .
I do think unless she feels some motivation to improve the relationship with her husband and children she would probably be happier leaving the marriage .

Branleuse · 25/08/2025 11:48

You chose the horses you have, and you have both chosen not to cultivate the interest sd has actually shown. This could have been a great opportunity to try and connect with her better.

HP200 · 25/08/2025 11:47

PrincessScarlett · 25/08/2025 11:45

Rightly or wrongly your SS probably blames you for having your own son that spends more time with his dad by default of living with you and now it turns out that his own sister has a better relationship with your son than she does with him. Such a tricky situation.

Unfortunately he can be quite nasty to his sister I have once had to step in after I heard arguing and he was about to hit her with a lamp. My son is more chill but obviously not her sibling that she loves with full time so will of course irritate her more than a child EOW.

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JFDIYOLO · 25/08/2025 11:47

Are you absolutely sure there is nothing happening re his stepfather that is causing his shutdown?

Tiswa · 25/08/2025 11:47

HP200 · 25/08/2025 11:37

my son and step son are friendly to each other- very different personalities but will chat and things but despite being the same age will not go out together as they do not have similar interests, friends etc but there are no issues between them

Then that is it - he doesn’t hate you he is just more on the rude sullen side

which should be picked up on but not taken personally

PrincessScarlett · 25/08/2025 11:45

Rightly or wrongly your SS probably blames you for having your own son that spends more time with his dad by default of living with you and now it turns out that his own sister has a better relationship with your son than she does with him. Such a tricky situation.

HP200 · 25/08/2025 11:41

GinsBond · 25/08/2025 11:35

@HP200

You haven't touched on the relationship between your own son and your husbands children.

It sounds like DSD isn't comfortable around him if she doesn't want to go to the same riding school, why is that?

I think it’s because he is younger but a higher level which is why different days were offered so no comparison and discussion around he has been doing it longer so naturally will be further but that’s not bad and she will be the same given time but she point blank refused. DSD has a lovely relationship with my son and gives him a lot more time and attention then she does her own brother, step children do not have a good relationship with each other and will fight and argue 95% of the time, she was asked if she would like to come here different time to him as openly they don’t like each other but would said she is out with friends and her mums is closer to them which I understand

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sittingonabeach · 25/08/2025 11:40

Snapchat is my DS’s main method of communication with his mates. He doesn’t use it with us, so we have WhatsApp but our messages can go unread/unanswered!

GinsBond · 25/08/2025 11:40

HP200 · 25/08/2025 11:36

I have no intention of paying and caring for a horse for a child who rode for 6 months and then said it was too much of a commitment and impacted her social life as I will be the one left doing the work at a heavy cost. My son admits he loves riding but does not want the commitment of caring for one especially in winter

No one is asking you to, but maybe her Dad should. He could compromise his hobby to include his DD.

How does your DSD get on with your DS?

PhuckTrump · 25/08/2025 11:40

HP200 · 25/08/2025 09:23

DH has taken him out numerous times to talk to him and there is always (in my opinion) a silly excuse- he was tired, he didn’t feel like talking, he isn’t chatty as to why he ignored me the whole time to be even saying hello/ goodbye doesn’t take a lot of effort. As he was going last night I said ‘Bye, hope you have a nice week and see you soon’ I got just a blank stare and door shut! Heard DH on the drive saying why didn’t he reply and DS said ‘I didn’t think she was talking to me ‘

Eye roll. Sounds like you have a DH problem. What was his reaction when DSS was so rude by blanking you when you wished him a good week? He knew full well you were speaking to him. Did DH just say, “alright then”?

andweallsingalong · 25/08/2025 11:40

It sounds like DSD wants to do a hobby with her dad. Not riding lessons solo or going with you and not being able to ride. Just like DSS goes off on his hobby with dad and you and dad have horses. She sounds sad and feeling left out. Probably does like your horses too and naively hopes that getting to know them is all she needs to do to make them safer.

As a PP said family therapy would be a good shout.

For DSS why don't you just get on with your own life and leave him be with his dad then you'll both be able to relax.

Trethew · 25/08/2025 11:39

I’m another person looking in from far away and feeling that your stepchildren must feel unwanted, irrelevant, not belonging, unable to do anything right, and I fear probably deeply unhappy

Cherrytree86 · 25/08/2025 11:39

Pastaandoranges · 25/08/2025 11:04

Horses are quite a commitment, if you and DH are at the stables every weekend, I think the kids are probably thinking that Dad should be spending time doing things they want to do with him rather than spending every weekend at the stables doing a hobby that only his new family really like and leaving them to either come with, or do nothing.
With my kids, me and my DH don't do our hobbies over our kids. We take them to hobbies they want to do and have sidelined our own hobbies in favour of theirs, that we dont even have any interest in. For example husband used to play golf every weekend and hates football, but son loves football, so the weekend is centred around sons football. I like horseriding, have taken my kids but they have no interest and so we do other things, I dont do horseriding anymore as it takes too much precious time for me to be off horseriding while my kids are doing nothing ay home.
I can completely see how your SCs are feeling like they are completely sidelined for a hobby they have no interest in. Dad should be making an effort to do things they want to do and are interested in on the weekends he has them. And if it were me I would be giving up the horses, which are a huge commitment in time and money and focussing on my relationship with my kids. Although, maybe its too late now and after 9 years of this they have made up their minds that they have had enough of being sidelined for this hobby and now just have disengaged.
To this end, yes you probably should end the marriage, so he can be the dad he should be being and you can enjoy your hobby with your son.

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@Pastaandoranges

why can’t it be one day of the weekend be all about the kids hobbies, and one day of the weekend it be about yours and your husbands hobbies! You matter too! And it gives the kids opportunity to see that you are a human in your own right with your own interests and hobbies

Onthebusses · 25/08/2025 11:38

Bellyblueboy · 25/08/2025 09:54

Don’t expect teens to read and respond to texts!

I have a great relationship with my neice and nephew - similar age. They don’t use texts or WhatsApp with their friends so my messages can go unread for weeks! They are messages that they would want to reply to. Offers of shopping trips and money😂. When I mention it they toll their eyes and tell me they aren’t fifty and non one texts

So how do they communicate with one another if they don't use messaging apps? All the primary aged kids I know use Whatsapp if they have phones. What are teens doing? Genuinely curious.

ComtesseDeSpair · 25/08/2025 11:38

my son is also 13

It sounds like this must be hard for your DSS. Another boy of the exact same age is essentially living with his dad full time, and has done since they were both little boys, whilst he only gets his dad EOW. He’s being sullen and rude, and there’s a lot that your DH should be doing to address that behaviour; but honestly, I suspect a lot of adults would act pretty sullenly and rudely if they were the ones living in the sort of situation that children of divorced parents are just expected to lump and get on with.

DSS’s feelings are being displaced onto you, because you’re not his parent.

HP200 · 25/08/2025 11:37

my son and step son are friendly to each other- very different personalities but will chat and things but despite being the same age will not go out together as they do not have similar interests, friends etc but there are no issues between them

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