To think Serena Williams being on a GLP-1 isn’t that big a deal?

I don’t believe that she did it purely for weight loss as she talked about her joints and blood sugar. These are good health reasons.

Losing some weight would help her joints and improve blood sugar control.

Remembering, too, that African-Americans are more susceptible to T2D than white populations.

Sadly, I think there's quite a lot to be said for this.

I read so many criticisms online of Adele when she lost weight. Some people took it as a personal betrayal.

I think some people genuinely think, "I'm OK because she's the same size/bigger than me." And when they start looking and thinking, "She's smaller than me," it's a very uncomfortable place to be.

Yep, there is no 'positivity' in obesity. The whole point is to not put your life on hold if you are obese or overweight and the whole point of a movement was supposed to be a recognition of how difficult that is and to support people. A bastardised movement does no-one any good.

Congrats :)

The simple fact is that very few people feel good when they're lugging multiple extra stones about with them. The people trying to make them feel bad about that under the guise of 'body positivity' and banging on about aesthetics are no different from the usual people who want fat people to stay fat.

I hate being fat. I hate them limitations on my body caused by being fat, I hate the endless cycles of trying to be healthier, I hate how clothes feel on my body, and I hate the increased risks of genetic conditions that are already in my family.

I love being able to run, to be able to get up off the floor, to be able to lie flat without being choked by acid, to be able to wear nice clothes that don't look like parachutes. I like knowing I'm doing my level best to be around for my daughter, to feel comfortable on a night out, and I like the reduced inflammation and puffiness in my face and feet.

Some people just really fucking hate that for us. Including for otherwise active and disciplined people.

I also think it shows how many people don’t understand correlation and causation. I think the whole system of healthy bmi and overweight/obese needs an overhaul

Good for her. I was lighter than she was when playing tennis when I started on Mounjaro (and am slightly shorter) and also sporty and had tried to shift two stone+ for over 15 years.

I don't think it is? The one person I saw who mentioned 10lb was just talking about general weight gain in perimenopause.

Adele had been consistently losing weight for years too before the big drop. If you look at her early videos nd then say rolling in the deep she’s clearly thinner.

I agree with every single word. I think we are going to see an increase in eating disorders.

My point is that if they’re now advertising it for fit, healthy perimenopausal women, why the need to gatekeep it from women who have genuinely gained weight in perimenopause and who have constant food noise?

Yes. But this thread seems to be about people who ‘have 10lbs they can’t shift’. That’s not obese.

Yes, but that’s the point. WLI to help people who are genuinely unhealthy, great. To help people who have perfectly nice, healthy bodies get thinner? Ummmmm.

No. Was Serena obese?

Because she's in America where things are different for many reasons

I don’t think it’s fair. I eat a healthy diet, exercise most days, yet cannot shift my perimenopausal weight gain—about 10 pounds. The BBC article I read about Serena said it was due to perimenopausal
weight gain. I’ve applied for the jabs on reputable websites and been rejected. I don’t want to go down the bootleg route with drugs. Why is Serena allowed them, but not the rest of us?

All I’m going to say is that her husband is chubby and should be using this drug.

I bet her reply to her online pharmacy “how much excercise do you take per week” was startling.

The medication has been utterly life-changing. I was (and I've got a crazy frame where I have always weighed heavier than I looked - dunno the mechanics of it) nearly 25 stone, size 28, but beginning to hit the point where my mobility was suffering from it. I could go to the gym every day - and I have had periods where I would do that, and lift heavy weights, do cardio - I was physically strong at that point - but I still had constant, constant hunger, constant food cravings and no mental off switch at all - however hard I pushed my willpower.

I'd hit that point where my weight was making it harder for me (mentally and physically - because hurling abuse at fatties trying to get active is of course absolutely hilarious to a section of society) to move and I knew I was in the spiral point where the only way was larger and larger.

So in November I started on Mounjaro. Financially it's been a killer - and the side effects haven't been fun at points - I seem to have learnt how to live with them as I've gone on. I've not used them as a tool to drastically under-eat (I've seen the morons on social media existing on 800 cals a day and flogging their referral codes), but they have turned off the constant food craving noise, turned off the constant hunger and, most importantly of all - they've given me a mental off switch where food is concerned. I can have a few grapes and not have a yawning abyss in my brain until they've all gone, I can have a small piece of cheese and not be haunted by the rest of it in the fridge - I can have a normal attitude to food. They've also changed the food I'm drawn to as well - I don't absolutely yearn for chocolate anymore, and I'd quite like some chicken pieces to snack on rather than crisps - that kind of change has happened quite spontaneously on the meds. I eat normal, small portions of the same meals my family do - so usually chicken or fish and veg type meals - but that's it, I eat the meals and I'm satisfied by them and able to stop when full.

I've lost a crazy amount of weight - 5 1/2 stone - but at a rate of 1-2lb a week, with periodic plateaus where my body's obviously readjusted itself and got on with it - and it's been sustainable. I'm now just below 19 stone, in a size 20 clothes - I still have a long way to go, and yes, I've probably recently started showing the "ozempic face" - which you are realistically just going to get when you drop any significant amount of weight in later life. Absolutely minimal loose skin so far though - under no illusion that won't be coming at some point.

And I FEEL so much better - I'm able to walk to the shop now rather than needing the car, I've lost about 50% of the pelvic pain I've been plagued with since having the kids (I was that poor bugger whose pelvic girdle problems never cleared up - largely because of a mishandled childbirth) - I'm still in pain with the misaligned pelvis, but it's manageable. Although physically I didn't have any of the usual issues associated with massive obesity (believe me - my GP has desperately looked over the years) - I felt like I was starting to be on the tipping point for pre diabetes which has corrected itself (I had bloods done the other week which only showed my usual Vit D deficiency - everything else was normal but I appear to be part-vampire and I'm always down on D).

It's not about aesthetics for me - although being able to buy clothes in the supermarket was probably my one big goal (I hate Yours clothing - sorry guys)... my face now looks a bit shit compared to a stone or so ago - it was just regaining mobility and feeling better that mattered to me.

And yep, I may well end up needing a regular low dose lifelong - if that's the case, I'll live with that. I'm hoping I won't - but the odds are never in your favour if you've previously been very obese, your body will always be fighting to take you back to that. It's made it clear to me how much my brain needed the GLP1 medication to be able to to process food normally - I was always fighting against that imbalance until now.

And the price increase - is going to be fucking painful.

Honestly, I just think crack on, if you’ve found a way of losing weight/being happy with your self image, great. Who cares how they did it?

So far they just seem to be accusing her of being a secret eater.