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Remove verbally abusive boyfriend out the granny flat

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Mumofadultkid · 25/08/2025 03:09

My DD lives in a type of granny flat on our land. She has done some pretty awful things and I have posted before and got some good advice and some different perspectives (which were all the same funnily enough), and now she is ramping up and her boyfriend has just sent us a message saying that if it were up to him, he wouldn't let her have her have a relationship with us. And his last paragraph was "go f* yourselves". This was in response to a request for more money towards electricity, as it has more than doubled, and we just can't afford it.

So, to quickly explain, my husband and I went into debt (released equity from our home) to enable them to buy this little house/granny flat. We have let them put it on our land, we are not charging them for that, and all we have asked is that they pay the loan back with regular payments. They promised they would do it within 2 years. Soon after they moved in, they defaulted on the first payment. It was one month after they moved in.

Then she stopped working, and then he cut his hours down. So they are roughly all up now on 1/3 of what they were on before. Through their decisions.

We are constantly told we are narcissistic, mentally and emotionally abusive, and we don't respect their boundaries and have been told in no uncertain terms that we are now formally estranged from them.

It really does feel like we have been played; it is our fault, we have never said no, and it seems like when we do, we get heaps of vitriol from her. In the past in panic, we have just given in ( I know! I know what you are going to say).

But now, after this email, we want to get him away - I feel like a prisoner in my own home. I just don't understand how you can speak to someone like this when we have done everything we can to help them. I get that she is feeding him with her narrative (he had a really troubled upbringing) and she connected with him as she told him "she had the same". And when I say no way, I mean no way. He had a really, really hard life. I am not sure DD knows what a hard life is, she has wanted for nothing.

This appears to be a pattern with her - and she has lost all her friends, she has one that she is close to at the moment, but she is using her ( I know that sounds awful) but she needs something from her and from next year - once she has got what she wants from her she will find a way to cancel her too, like she has all her other friends.

We are seeing a lawyer next week to trespass him off our home. We can't bring ourselves to do it to DD yet, but if we don't make a stand, I just don't know where this will end. He is very beligerant, we have made really reasonable requests in the past and he has just point-blank refused. And it is getting more aggressive. The emails and the messages are coming with us to the lawyers.

I suppose I am just looking for support. I know people will say blame the parents, and I get it. But believe me when I tell you - we have been so supportive, financially, emotionally, and physically and I just feel like this gentle parenting and not saying no to kids has really backfired on us. It feels like every time we say no we can't, we get verbally attacked. And I see how social media influencers are telling people to 'cut their toxic parents' out of their lives, without actually explaining what true toxicity is. There are people who have had a horrendous upbringing, and I don't discount that. This is not what my DD upbringing has been like.

It's making me ill, I have chest pains, and I am so stressed, and we are trying to plan for retirement and when we mention that, we just get "it's all about the money with you". We've tried to help them get ahead, at our expense - emotionally and financially.

If we let them stay, they will continue to at least make payments to the loan, but at what cost? If we ask him to leave, she is there on her own with no money, so no payments! I don't think she will move with him, and he will have to move back home to his lovely mum. We could sell it, but it won't cover the outstanding debt. We could ask them to get their own loan, but based on their income, I don't think they will get a loan.

I just feel so stuck and so sick.

It has been the worst decision we have ever made.

Please be kind

OP posts:
Doggymummar · 08/09/2025 09:12

So what happens now? Bailiff's and the police?

sodifficult1 · 08/09/2025 09:00

Mumofadultkid · 08/09/2025 07:56

@SpidersAreShitheads he’s back! He must have waited to for us to go to bed before he came back!

Oh wow, so his tears were crocodile then !

im sorry but I would just evict them both it’s time for tough love. She hasn’t respected your wish for him to leave so she has to go too.

my heart goes out to you it really does, we love our children do everything we can to help them then they kick you. You need to show her that enough is enough,

SapphOhNo · 08/09/2025 08:54

After all they've done how can you be so naive as to think he wouldn't be back?

Evict both. It's the only way.

IsawwhatIsaw · 08/09/2025 08:42

The gentle parenting approach has resulted in this situation which sounds absolutely intolerable.
i haven t read the full thread, but I’d get legal advice to get them both out asap, then get in new tenants.
They are treating you with absolute contempt

Ocelotfeet27 · 08/09/2025 08:35

Why did the solicitor suggest keeping DD there and not him rather than going forward with evicting them both? Otherwise it was inevitable he'd be back- and he could say - oh but I was just visiting DD.

I'd get them both round and say that you will sell the house if they don't immediately start making larger payments, she needs to get a job, and he needs to respect the eviction. Once they've paid the home back they can do as they like - elsewhere.

MsPavlichenko · 08/09/2025 08:32

Mumofadultkid · 08/09/2025 07:56

@SpidersAreShitheads he’s back! He must have waited to for us to go to bed before he came back!

This is entirely predictable. You can’t be surprised surely? You need your DD out too, that’s the only way forward. You have appeased and appeased. It doesn’t work. You will end up destitute and ill. You need to toughen up, get them both out and probably go no contact, for sometime at least.

You can’t expect any change in their behaviour, especially as they clearly don’t believe you’ll follow through on what you say. Stop feeling sorry for them, think of what this is doing to you. Stop engaging with them. They are abusers.

WrylyAmused · 08/09/2025 08:14

I'm sorry for you, but it's unsurprising that he would come back when DD is still there and it appears she would clearly want him there.
Also unsurprising given that they've both been lying about many things for months (e.g. that they'd pay the loan etc etc)

You'll need to evict both of them, and probably sell the house unit or rent it to someone else so there's no way they can return.

It must be a really difficult situation, I'm so sorry you're experiencing this.

Motherbear44 · 08/09/2025 08:12

Mumofadultkid · 25/08/2025 03:09

My DD lives in a type of granny flat on our land. She has done some pretty awful things and I have posted before and got some good advice and some different perspectives (which were all the same funnily enough), and now she is ramping up and her boyfriend has just sent us a message saying that if it were up to him, he wouldn't let her have her have a relationship with us. And his last paragraph was "go f* yourselves". This was in response to a request for more money towards electricity, as it has more than doubled, and we just can't afford it.

So, to quickly explain, my husband and I went into debt (released equity from our home) to enable them to buy this little house/granny flat. We have let them put it on our land, we are not charging them for that, and all we have asked is that they pay the loan back with regular payments. They promised they would do it within 2 years. Soon after they moved in, they defaulted on the first payment. It was one month after they moved in.

Then she stopped working, and then he cut his hours down. So they are roughly all up now on 1/3 of what they were on before. Through their decisions.

We are constantly told we are narcissistic, mentally and emotionally abusive, and we don't respect their boundaries and have been told in no uncertain terms that we are now formally estranged from them.

It really does feel like we have been played; it is our fault, we have never said no, and it seems like when we do, we get heaps of vitriol from her. In the past in panic, we have just given in ( I know! I know what you are going to say).

But now, after this email, we want to get him away - I feel like a prisoner in my own home. I just don't understand how you can speak to someone like this when we have done everything we can to help them. I get that she is feeding him with her narrative (he had a really troubled upbringing) and she connected with him as she told him "she had the same". And when I say no way, I mean no way. He had a really, really hard life. I am not sure DD knows what a hard life is, she has wanted for nothing.

This appears to be a pattern with her - and she has lost all her friends, she has one that she is close to at the moment, but she is using her ( I know that sounds awful) but she needs something from her and from next year - once she has got what she wants from her she will find a way to cancel her too, like she has all her other friends.

We are seeing a lawyer next week to trespass him off our home. We can't bring ourselves to do it to DD yet, but if we don't make a stand, I just don't know where this will end. He is very beligerant, we have made really reasonable requests in the past and he has just point-blank refused. And it is getting more aggressive. The emails and the messages are coming with us to the lawyers.

I suppose I am just looking for support. I know people will say blame the parents, and I get it. But believe me when I tell you - we have been so supportive, financially, emotionally, and physically and I just feel like this gentle parenting and not saying no to kids has really backfired on us. It feels like every time we say no we can't, we get verbally attacked. And I see how social media influencers are telling people to 'cut their toxic parents' out of their lives, without actually explaining what true toxicity is. There are people who have had a horrendous upbringing, and I don't discount that. This is not what my DD upbringing has been like.

It's making me ill, I have chest pains, and I am so stressed, and we are trying to plan for retirement and when we mention that, we just get "it's all about the money with you". We've tried to help them get ahead, at our expense - emotionally and financially.

If we let them stay, they will continue to at least make payments to the loan, but at what cost? If we ask him to leave, she is there on her own with no money, so no payments! I don't think she will move with him, and he will have to move back home to his lovely mum. We could sell it, but it won't cover the outstanding debt. We could ask them to get their own loan, but based on their income, I don't think they will get a loan.

I just feel so stuck and so sick.

It has been the worst decision we have ever made.

Please be kind

Oh I empathize OP. As someone who has retired fairly recently I would say that to some extent it is all about the money. You have worked hard all your life and now have to work out how you are going to support yourself. That is not a trivial matter. You have tried to help your daughter which was very generous and it is so sad that she has taken advantage and thrown it back in your face.

I hope that the lawyer can find a way to evict both boyfriend and daughter. Getting rid of only the boyfriend will not work. She will find a way to get him back. Then you need to sell or get new tenants. I suspect selling is the best solution because then there is no turning back.

Good luck and stay strong.

PhuckTrump · 08/09/2025 08:02

Mumofadultkid · 08/09/2025 07:56

@SpidersAreShitheads he’s back! He must have waited to for us to go to bed before he came back!

WHAT?

Londonrach1 · 08/09/2025 07:58

Evict them then rent or sell the cottage. Don't give anymore money

Mumofadultkid · 08/09/2025 07:56

SpidersAreShitheads · 08/09/2025 04:19

Given your last update, I feel a tiny bit sorry for him OP. You say yourself he's had a really difficult life so he sounds quite vulnerable. It also sounds as though he's been manipulated heavily by your DD and has formed his opinions based on her lies.

Of course you were right to still evict him and fair play to you for standing your ground when it would have been much easier to give in to make things all nice.

I agree with PP - it's your DD who needs to feel the consequences because it sounds as if she's the driver in all of this.

Do you have any idea what their plans might be?

@SpidersAreShitheads he’s back! He must have waited to for us to go to bed before he came back!

OP posts:
PhuckTrump · 08/09/2025 07:53

@Mumofadultkid no matter how tough your upbringing was, or how toxic your mother is, that DOES NOT give you the right to go from FT to PT work, claim you have no money, default on your rent payments from day 1, refuse to pay utilities, tell your landlord they’re a narcissist, and tell your landlord to fuck off. Even if your girlfriend encourages you to do it. He is a fully grown man who is responsible for his own actions, who now finds himself in the Find Out phase of FAFO.

SuPollardsPolkaDotFrock · 08/09/2025 07:30

Burntt · 08/09/2025 07:28

Could he be the cause of her deterioration in behaviour? It’s a very common tactic for abusers to drive a wedge between their victim and their family.

Well of course. Couldn't possibly be that the woman is the wrong'un.

Burntt · 08/09/2025 07:28

Could he be the cause of her deterioration in behaviour? It’s a very common tactic for abusers to drive a wedge between their victim and their family.

SuPollardsPolkaDotFrock · 08/09/2025 07:28

I absolutely agree you cannot allow your guard down where your daughter is concerned. She is clearly the cause of all his nastiness toward you. She has played him off against you. Hopefully he will wake up and see her for the manipulative and dangerous piece of work she really is. But you also need to see it and not end up letting her stay there herself. She needs to leave your property.

nomas · 08/09/2025 07:18

PyongyangKipperbang · 08/09/2025 03:40

I am sorry to say this but it sounds like the person who needed to be evicted was your DD, not him.

For some reason, and I wouldnt like to say what it is, you have a very manipulative selfish user on your hands there. What you choose to do about that is up to you, but I would strongly suggest a therapist could help you and your husband decide.

The boyfriend absolutely needed to be evicted, he has been horrible to OP. One down, one to go.

Pricelessadvice · 08/09/2025 07:01

Crocodile tears OP. Thats how he gets his own way, by manipulating people into feeling sorry for him when he shit hits the fan. Do NOT back down. Now you need to get your daughter out.
I’m afraid that relationship is likely broken.

Let this be a lesson to the gentle/useless parenting brigade.

Francestein · 08/09/2025 06:47

Now you need to get her out. Get her paying bills or evict her. She needs to learn how to adult or f-off.

Gettingbysomehow · 08/09/2025 06:43

Get rid of both of them and let them stand on their own two feet.
Tough parenting is the only way forward for these two.
I had to do this to adult DS a few years ago and he has certainly learnt a life lesson from it. One he desperately needed to learn. Spoiling your kids and giving them everything stops them from developing normally and learning how to be a responsible adult.

Holluschickie · 08/09/2025 06:42

Also, why are so many parents so terrified their kids will go NC that they let them get away with murder? Let them, as Mel Robbins says. In this economy, they will come charging back.
It's not my intention to sound smug. My DC are by no means perfect. But at least I only have to deal with them, not their partners.

Holluschickie · 08/09/2025 06:37

This is why I don't and never will allow my DCs's partners in my home. Not even for an overnight stay. They will end up living with me. My DC can stay as long as they like. Their partners, never.

Horses7 · 08/09/2025 06:31

It will be hard but you are doing the right thing for you both and your daughter. Now stay strong and don’t weaken! Repair your relationship with your son too. You can do this, your daughter needs to grow up and take responsibility for her life and you need to encourage this.

JayJayj · 08/09/2025 05:47

Mumofadultkid · 25/08/2025 05:11

@Imisschampagne

I did take her to counselling, school was also involved.

I have obviously hit a nerve by disagreeing with gentle parenting here.

Sometimes, no matter what we do, we can't "win" or whatever that is.

You aren’t disagreeing with gentle parenting though. What you have described is being permissive. It doesn’t sound like you’ve actually parented her you’ve just let her do whatever she wants and now you are dealing with the consequences.

It isn’t about hitting a nerve, it’s people like you that call shit parenting gentle parenting that makes others think it’s ridiculous. A quick google search would literally give you the definition.

Muffinmam · 08/09/2025 05:08

Mumofadultkid · 25/08/2025 05:22

@LadyGaGasPokerFace I think you're right, we have caved in before so as not to upset her. They also told us they can't afford to eat and can't pay their debts. I would normally help them out, and I am finding it hard not to. But this last email was beyond horrible.

Get a restraining order on him. Use that email as evidence of abuse.

You need to get him far away from you.

SpidersAreShitheads · 08/09/2025 04:19

Given your last update, I feel a tiny bit sorry for him OP. You say yourself he's had a really difficult life so he sounds quite vulnerable. It also sounds as though he's been manipulated heavily by your DD and has formed his opinions based on her lies.

Of course you were right to still evict him and fair play to you for standing your ground when it would have been much easier to give in to make things all nice.

I agree with PP - it's your DD who needs to feel the consequences because it sounds as if she's the driver in all of this.

Do you have any idea what their plans might be?

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