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Remove verbally abusive boyfriend out the granny flat

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Mumofadultkid · 25/08/2025 03:09

My DD lives in a type of granny flat on our land. She has done some pretty awful things and I have posted before and got some good advice and some different perspectives (which were all the same funnily enough), and now she is ramping up and her boyfriend has just sent us a message saying that if it were up to him, he wouldn't let her have her have a relationship with us. And his last paragraph was "go f* yourselves". This was in response to a request for more money towards electricity, as it has more than doubled, and we just can't afford it.

So, to quickly explain, my husband and I went into debt (released equity from our home) to enable them to buy this little house/granny flat. We have let them put it on our land, we are not charging them for that, and all we have asked is that they pay the loan back with regular payments. They promised they would do it within 2 years. Soon after they moved in, they defaulted on the first payment. It was one month after they moved in.

Then she stopped working, and then he cut his hours down. So they are roughly all up now on 1/3 of what they were on before. Through their decisions.

We are constantly told we are narcissistic, mentally and emotionally abusive, and we don't respect their boundaries and have been told in no uncertain terms that we are now formally estranged from them.

It really does feel like we have been played; it is our fault, we have never said no, and it seems like when we do, we get heaps of vitriol from her. In the past in panic, we have just given in ( I know! I know what you are going to say).

But now, after this email, we want to get him away - I feel like a prisoner in my own home. I just don't understand how you can speak to someone like this when we have done everything we can to help them. I get that she is feeding him with her narrative (he had a really troubled upbringing) and she connected with him as she told him "she had the same". And when I say no way, I mean no way. He had a really, really hard life. I am not sure DD knows what a hard life is, she has wanted for nothing.

This appears to be a pattern with her - and she has lost all her friends, she has one that she is close to at the moment, but she is using her ( I know that sounds awful) but she needs something from her and from next year - once she has got what she wants from her she will find a way to cancel her too, like she has all her other friends.

We are seeing a lawyer next week to trespass him off our home. We can't bring ourselves to do it to DD yet, but if we don't make a stand, I just don't know where this will end. He is very beligerant, we have made really reasonable requests in the past and he has just point-blank refused. And it is getting more aggressive. The emails and the messages are coming with us to the lawyers.

I suppose I am just looking for support. I know people will say blame the parents, and I get it. But believe me when I tell you - we have been so supportive, financially, emotionally, and physically and I just feel like this gentle parenting and not saying no to kids has really backfired on us. It feels like every time we say no we can't, we get verbally attacked. And I see how social media influencers are telling people to 'cut their toxic parents' out of their lives, without actually explaining what true toxicity is. There are people who have had a horrendous upbringing, and I don't discount that. This is not what my DD upbringing has been like.

It's making me ill, I have chest pains, and I am so stressed, and we are trying to plan for retirement and when we mention that, we just get "it's all about the money with you". We've tried to help them get ahead, at our expense - emotionally and financially.

If we let them stay, they will continue to at least make payments to the loan, but at what cost? If we ask him to leave, she is there on her own with no money, so no payments! I don't think she will move with him, and he will have to move back home to his lovely mum. We could sell it, but it won't cover the outstanding debt. We could ask them to get their own loan, but based on their income, I don't think they will get a loan.

I just feel so stuck and so sick.

It has been the worst decision we have ever made.

Please be kind

OP posts:
PragmaticIsh · 09/09/2025 04:42

Treesandsheepeverywhere · 08/09/2025 19:57

Reminds me of someone caught cheating, tears, begging, promises of changing and never doing it again......

Until the next time.

Tell them you don't want him on your property, and if DD contests, then she can go too.

That's good.

As I understand it you lent them money to buy the mobile home/unit and let them put it on your land. Did they purchase the property or you? It sounds as though you should be selling the property not them?

Mumofadultkid · 09/09/2025 02:45

Treesandsheepeverywhere · 08/09/2025 19:57

Reminds me of someone caught cheating, tears, begging, promises of changing and never doing it again......

Until the next time.

Tell them you don't want him on your property, and if DD contests, then she can go too.

@Treesandsheepeverywhere

Another letter from lawyer issued..... next stage is evicting them.

They have however said they have a plan - I dont care what it is now as slong as the debt is cleared and the house is moved.

OP posts:
Treesandsheepeverywhere · 08/09/2025 19:57

Reminds me of someone caught cheating, tears, begging, promises of changing and never doing it again......

Until the next time.

Tell them you don't want him on your property, and if DD contests, then she can go too.

Namechangerage · 08/09/2025 16:04

I would also just sell it all up and move to pastures new. And seek legal advice about your estate, make it iron clad so she can’t ever contest. Records of all this toxicity.

Namechangerage · 08/09/2025 16:03

Mumofadultkid · 08/09/2025 10:01

Have handed it over to lawyer and he was going to provide them with all the information - nice he gives me the thumbs up I’m calling them - I can’t believe I felt sorry for him

You really need to evict her too, and give them a deadline to sort out the house. It won’t end otherwise.

beAsensible1 · 08/09/2025 15:33

Until you accept that your daughter is part and parcel of the behaviour this is going to continue. You need to evict her as well

Knobbsa · 08/09/2025 14:45

Sadly OP, you have been played.
I know of some stories where parents were used, played and manipulated by adult children.

The parents spent years trying to play nice, get through to them, to no avail.
They wasted often up to a decade doing this, alienating their other children by indulging in the drama.

Eventually they cracked and did what needed to be done, but they wasted years and had fractured relationships with their other children, who were appalled with such needless drama and indulgence.

Get them out. She is toxic poison to you.
You tried, you did your best.

Save yourself.
Save your relationship with your other children.

Drop the rope completely.

I would consider selling up complete and making a fresh start elsewhere.

Never give her power over you again.

Bathingforest · 08/09/2025 14:32

It's moving correctly

Mumonthebrink2025 · 08/09/2025 11:09

Tessasanderson · 08/09/2025 10:15

Can i just mention that you keep referring to it being sold. I assume its some kind of mobile home.

Who is selling it? If you are leaving that to your DD and her BF then i think you are looking at a whole heap of trouble. I can definitely see them selling it, pocketing the money and disappearing off into the sunset with a deposit for the next mug to put up with them.

If you must sell it, do it yourself, at least that way you get every penny to pay off towards the loan.

Oh yes I second this...

custardcreme77 · 08/09/2025 11:04

sandyhappypeople · 08/09/2025 10:51

Legally evict both, but let her come and live back with you.

You need to get rid of the toxic piece of shit boyfriend though.

If you only evict him, you can be guaranteed that she will sneak him back in, either blatently or behind your back, if he is coercive and controlling he will make it happen. You need to get her away from him, him being so charming and likable to you in the beginning and now he is utterly awful is just a taste of what he will have done to her.

Have you got CCTV up? Any damage to properties and cars will be a police matter and will further help your case as long as you have proof.

No way! She’s made her bed - now she can lie in it but off OP’s property! The daughter and her boyfriend have acted abominably and need to learn, the hard way, that actions have consequences.

Hopefully the lawyer will be on the ball and follow through with getting the pair removed from the property, backed up with some support from the police to prevent the pair harassing the OP.

ByQuaintAzureWasp · 08/09/2025 11:01

hattie43 · 25/08/2025 06:47

How long have they lived in this ‘ mobile home / granny flat , it’s not clear . You can’t just put a residential unit on land and move in without planning permission . I’d get onto a planning consultant or council and ask what the rules are re 4 yrs 10 yrs . If it falls outside this get the councils planning enforcement team on it and they will go through a process to remove it . Your family won’t know who advised them either because that information is private .

What? Its the Op's building!

Needtosoundoffandbreathe · 08/09/2025 10:58

I think I'm out on this thread. I really do get that she's your daughter, but you keep enabling the most appalling behaviour by her and kowtowing to her demands. How far does she have to go before you face reality? If she/they sell this hut or mobile home then nothing they have shown thus far indicates you will get the money from them to repay any of your loan. Please wake up and smell the coffee and take control of the situation.

Also, I note the questions about involvement in drug taking have not been responded to. You cannot help an addict who is not at the point of wanting to help themselves if this is behind the behaviour.

sandyhappypeople · 08/09/2025 10:51

Mumofadultkid · 25/08/2025 05:54

@Yeahno We are worried about the fallout and damage to our property and cars too. I suppose I was just hanging on to the hope that she might wake up..... but realistically, she won't.

Legally evict both, but let her come and live back with you.

You need to get rid of the toxic piece of shit boyfriend though.

If you only evict him, you can be guaranteed that she will sneak him back in, either blatently or behind your back, if he is coercive and controlling he will make it happen. You need to get her away from him, him being so charming and likable to you in the beginning and now he is utterly awful is just a taste of what he will have done to her.

Have you got CCTV up? Any damage to properties and cars will be a police matter and will further help your case as long as you have proof.

Tessasanderson · 08/09/2025 10:15

Mumofadultkid · 04/09/2025 14:04

Update

After seeking legal advice we’re evicting him first, then daughter stays until they clear the loan or sell it and it’s removed (by no later than October) I don’t think if it’s sold it will cover the loan …. But that’s what we have to live with. They get the letter from solicitor Friday.

If he doesn’t go we call the police who have been informed. I just hope he goes quietly- we’re giving him the weekend to move out.

I just saw that she sold her jewelry we bought her for her 18th, it was expensive but I’m devastated she’s sold it - I suppose it shows just how little she regards it.

I feel sick - I know it’s the right thing to do after all that she has done but it feels horrible to be doing this to my own daughter

thank you for you advice, I really appreciate it - I showed my husband and he’s taken comfort and support too - thank you all so much

Can i just mention that you keep referring to it being sold. I assume its some kind of mobile home.

Who is selling it? If you are leaving that to your DD and her BF then i think you are looking at a whole heap of trouble. I can definitely see them selling it, pocketing the money and disappearing off into the sunset with a deposit for the next mug to put up with them.

If you must sell it, do it yourself, at least that way you get every penny to pay off towards the loan.

allthemiddlechildrenoftheworld · 08/09/2025 10:10

@Mumofadultkid he hasnt been evicted yet. please do not change the locks until they are evicted or eviction becomes illegal. courts take a very dim view of this. you need to get bailiffs in england or sheriff officers in scotland. go by what they say. do not try to evict them yourself.

SuPollardsPolkaDotFrock · 08/09/2025 10:09

Mumofadultkid · 08/09/2025 10:01

Have handed it over to lawyer and he was going to provide them with all the information - nice he gives me the thumbs up I’m calling them - I can’t believe I felt sorry for him

To be fair given the behaviour you’ve been subjected to I think it was unlikely this was going to end that easily. Honestly the best solution is neither of them should stay because she will just keep letting him back in.

GingerBeverage · 08/09/2025 10:07

Those tears and that sob story will have been told time and again OP. You won’t have been the first or last to fall for it.

Change2banon · 08/09/2025 10:04

I’m so sorry OP. I knew from the beginning of the thread that he would just come back once evicted 🤷‍♀️ He/they are playing you and your dh for fools. You sound so genuinely lovely and don’t deserve this at all. I hope they go and you get everything back financially, but sadly I can’t see that happening. Wishing you every strength and good luck 💐

Mumofadultkid · 08/09/2025 10:01

SuPollardsPolkaDotFrock · 08/09/2025 09:46

You said the police had been put on notice and would be called if he didn’t leave. So you need to call them. Have you called them?

Have handed it over to lawyer and he was going to provide them with all the information - nice he gives me the thumbs up I’m calling them - I can’t believe I felt sorry for him

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Mumofadultkid · 08/09/2025 09:59

Doggymummar · 08/09/2025 09:12

So what happens now? Bailiff's and the police?

Police - just have to get the lawyer to give them all the details - part of the letter said they need to make up the missing by Friday and if they don’t we can disconnect services (water and electricity and evict them both) - so lawyer was onto it - he could see what was coming based on what we had told them.

I’m buying an extra security camera too - I think then we can get the locks changed too.

OP posts:
SuPollardsPolkaDotFrock · 08/09/2025 09:51

PhuckTrump · 08/09/2025 08:02

WHAT?

Sadly i think i can see where this saga is headed. Get ready for thread number 48 coming to a forum near you soon…

nomas · 08/09/2025 09:48

Mumofadultkid · 08/09/2025 07:56

@SpidersAreShitheads he’s back! He must have waited to for us to go to bed before he came back!

So much for his respectful acceptance to leave! They're as bad as each other.

SuPollardsPolkaDotFrock · 08/09/2025 09:46

Mumofadultkid · 08/09/2025 07:56

@SpidersAreShitheads he’s back! He must have waited to for us to go to bed before he came back!

You said the police had been put on notice and would be called if he didn’t leave. So you need to call them. Have you called them?

Robin67 · 08/09/2025 09:33

You can't trust anything these two say, individually or together

Evict them

Stop paying for their water, electricity etc. Cut it off and have a meter installed, or just cut it off if you can do that legally.

Boo hoo about his past. He is an adult now and he is choosing to behave like this

CautiousLurker01 · 08/09/2025 09:18

Mumofadultkid · 25/08/2025 05:20

@Corfumanchu We got the loan and bought it with a view to transferring it to them when the loan was paid off. Everything is in our name. They have defaulted 4 times on the loan, which has made things difficult for us as it's all in our name. They could literally walk away with no consequence. We thought the BF was so lovely, so supported it, but there were signs - he made DD put location on her phone, claiming his ex cheated, he told us we were so welcoming, and he was so lucky because his ex's parents hated him...... I was stupid.

I am sorry but in these circumstances I would formally evict both of them from your property, as despite whatever conversations and intentions you may have had in terms of signing over, you haven’t and they haven’t kept up with payments.

If you serve an eviction notice, formally and in written form, it means they can go to the LA and request social housing using the letter as evidence - although they may have to go on a waiting list. Either way it’s not your problem. Sometimes tough parenting is needed - they are adults, they are financially challenged through their own decisions, and they can both resolve this by finding work/increasing hours and renting elsewhere.

Under no circumstances would I accept abuse from the BF and the fact that your DD stands by him means the relationship between you has already brown down. You are best to evict both of them, but tell your daughter that if she ever wants to come home (alone) that avenue is open to her (obvs with rules but you don’t need to explore those unless she comes back with her tail between her legs).

Sometimes no relationship is better than a bad relationship when it comes to our kids. But you can make clear that your door is always open if she wants to come back or wants to have a relationship with you.

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