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Aibu to write this guy off our first night together?

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KookySnail · 25/08/2025 01:02

I’m considering c

OP posts:
HelloHattie · 30/08/2025 11:31

I wouldn’t like the lack of eye contact. Well done for knowing your worth.

Anchorage56 · 30/08/2025 11:29

CoffeeLipstickKeys · 30/08/2025 11:22

Who is we? Dont presume a collective I don’t judge him. Don’t judge her
Three dates and sex,mutual and consensual sex. No sinister dynamics
It really doesn’t warrant all this scrutiny and certainly not the presumption of the collective who judge him

We as in all the people on here who have commented that his behaviour was not nice. Not that difficult to understand. If you wouldnt mind being treated like that then thats fine for you.

CoffeeLipstickKeys · 30/08/2025 11:22

Anchorage56 · 30/08/2025 11:13

You should never make assumptions about all men or all women based on individual stories but we will judge this man for his behaviour.

Who is we? Dont presume a collective I don’t judge him. Don’t judge her
Three dates and sex,mutual and consensual sex. No sinister dynamics
It really doesn’t warrant all this scrutiny and certainly not the presumption of the collective who judge him

Anchorage56 · 30/08/2025 11:13

CoffeeLipstickKeys · 30/08/2025 11:06

It’s really not complicated. They had sex and didn’t see each other again
One really cannot extrapolate about men and commitment from this.
It was only three dates in,so no great emotional investment, not a big deal

You should never make assumptions about all men or all women based on individual stories but we will judge this man for his behaviour.

CoffeeLipstickKeys · 30/08/2025 11:06

It’s really not complicated. They had sex and didn’t see each other again
One really cannot extrapolate about men and commitment from this.
It was only three dates in,so no great emotional investment, not a big deal

Anchorage56 · 30/08/2025 10:53

Tandora · 30/08/2025 10:32

Well not all men are like this obviously! Lots are , and lots aren’t.
Also for the men who are like this, they do sometimes get in long term relationships, either because they get over their issues or when they find a woman who withholds sex. I had a friend like this, he eventually got married but to a Christian girl who wouldn’t have sex until after marriage. He himself was neither Christian nor a virgin.

What you are saying doesnt actually make sense. If a man loses interest in a woman after he has had sex with her because he sees her as losing her value then it wouldn't matter how long she held out before having sex. Once the sex was done he would lose interest, going by your theory.

Tandora · 30/08/2025 10:32

JimmyGiraffe · 30/08/2025 08:46

But if that’s the case, how come men are in marriages and long term relationships?

Well not all men are like this obviously! Lots are , and lots aren’t.
Also for the men who are like this, they do sometimes get in long term relationships, either because they get over their issues or when they find a woman who withholds sex. I had a friend like this, he eventually got married but to a Christian girl who wouldn’t have sex until after marriage. He himself was neither Christian nor a virgin.

Anchorage56 · 30/08/2025 08:55

JimmyGiraffe · 30/08/2025 08:46

But if that’s the case, how come men are in marriages and long term relationships?

Because it's only some men who view women like that. Plenty still look for something meaningful and long term.

JimmyGiraffe · 30/08/2025 08:46

Tandora · 29/08/2025 21:47

It’s not a myth. A lot of men are like this psychologically - it’s because of deep rooted misogyny . Once they have been with a woman she loses her value in their eyes.

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But if that’s the case, how come men are in marriages and long term relationships?

Anchorage56 · 30/08/2025 08:21

Lacey55 · 29/08/2025 16:33

I know! He does have (short) relationships but he losses real interest in them as soon as he has slept with them. He is very wealthy and does tend to go for younger women (30s) so maybe that's it?

Sounds like he gets a thrill from the chase and not much more. If he is happy being single and dating around then ok, but it's an unfortunate mindset if he actually wants something long term. If the latter he could do with talking to a therapist.

Unexpectedlysinglemum · 29/08/2025 23:14

‘You not speaking now’ is so arrogant confrontational and aggressive and shows he knows exactly what he’s done and he’s looking for an ego boost and for you to send him a paragraph

Unexpectedlysinglemum · 29/08/2025 23:08

He’s not nice, I would feel used if treated like that, he should have sent you a nice text. I don’t think you’ll hear from him again except maybe an attempt at a booty call in a couple of weeks. Prick.

Notsuchafattynow · 29/08/2025 22:00

Good for you to take control.

He was spectacularly rude after you'd had sex, both immediately afterwards and the next morning.

The matey texts after a day or so really showed him for what he was. Thankfully you know early doors, before you got really invested.

I'm glad you respect yourself enough to know you deserve more.

Tandora · 29/08/2025 21:47

magictits · 29/08/2025 13:37

I may be wrong/naive, but I really do think its a myth that men pursue and then when they get sex they reject you. The old conquest/notch on bedpost idea. It makes not sense to me why they would do that, so I don't think it exists. If people have a good connection, chemistry and the sex is great why wouldn't they want to do it again? If something is good you want to keep doing it - not one and done. I have never understood this concept and really do believe its a myth - maybe something we tell ourselves to make ourselves feel better perhaps?

Im a strong believer in pheromones - I know not everyone does. But for me it doesn't matter how gorgeous and scintillating a man is, if the phermones dont do it for me its just not gonna happen.

That said, i still think this man was spectacularly rude to turn his back on you and not give you eye contact - and then to reduce contact by short messages was just weird. If I wasn't feeling it (and Ive been in that awkward position many times in the last 8 years) Im totally kind and polite (but not overly gushy), and then make my excuses later. Very clear, but kind, and I don't do the gradual fade. Sounds like he still wanted the ego boost of you dangling. Which is embarrassing for him.

It’s not a myth. A lot of men are like this psychologically - it’s because of deep rooted misogyny . Once they have been with a woman she loses her value in their eyes.

Lacey55 · 29/08/2025 16:33

magictits · 29/08/2025 13:41

Gosh really? What would be the point. Anything that is good you want to do again? Theres no logic to it is there? mad

I know! He does have (short) relationships but he losses real interest in them as soon as he has slept with them. He is very wealthy and does tend to go for younger women (30s) so maybe that's it?

magictits · 29/08/2025 13:45

Maplebean · 29/08/2025 12:43

@Beachtastic the decent thing to do, which would have showed that he valued OP, would of been to have you know, maybe asked if she wanted to get breakfast? Given it was a Sunday morning that’s not unreasonable. Instead he priority his own needs, as through she was in the way, and rushed her out at 7am.

OP has got enough self worth that she’s cottoned onto him straight away and isn’t entertaining him which is quite right!

Yeh you shouldn't treat anyone like that - a guest in your home - if you slept with them or otherwise. Its just so rude and cruel.

Personally I would have said it to him afterwards in a message. Something like, 'You were extremely rude to me last night and this morning, and I was a guest in your home. I don't allow people like that in my life'. Then I would have blocked.

But your way works to OP. I just like telling people clearly why I have walked but thats just me. Because I would want him to know it had nothing to do with the sex and everything to do with his appalling manners.

magictits · 29/08/2025 13:41

Lacey55 · 29/08/2025 11:56

Hi @KookySnail I think you have handled this very well and been strong. It must have been very hurtful how he treated you after so I think you did the right thing.
How dare he make you feel like that!

As a side note I have a male friend who is still single at 48. He would love a relationship but he says he genuinely losses interest once he has slept with his dates. It's just something in him that switches off. Some men are strange creatures!

Gosh really? What would be the point. Anything that is good you want to do again? Theres no logic to it is there? mad

magictits · 29/08/2025 13:37

I may be wrong/naive, but I really do think its a myth that men pursue and then when they get sex they reject you. The old conquest/notch on bedpost idea. It makes not sense to me why they would do that, so I don't think it exists. If people have a good connection, chemistry and the sex is great why wouldn't they want to do it again? If something is good you want to keep doing it - not one and done. I have never understood this concept and really do believe its a myth - maybe something we tell ourselves to make ourselves feel better perhaps?

Im a strong believer in pheromones - I know not everyone does. But for me it doesn't matter how gorgeous and scintillating a man is, if the phermones dont do it for me its just not gonna happen.

That said, i still think this man was spectacularly rude to turn his back on you and not give you eye contact - and then to reduce contact by short messages was just weird. If I wasn't feeling it (and Ive been in that awkward position many times in the last 8 years) Im totally kind and polite (but not overly gushy), and then make my excuses later. Very clear, but kind, and I don't do the gradual fade. Sounds like he still wanted the ego boost of you dangling. Which is embarrassing for him.

Maplebean · 29/08/2025 12:43

@Beachtastic the decent thing to do, which would have showed that he valued OP, would of been to have you know, maybe asked if she wanted to get breakfast? Given it was a Sunday morning that’s not unreasonable. Instead he priority his own needs, as through she was in the way, and rushed her out at 7am.

OP has got enough self worth that she’s cottoned onto him straight away and isn’t entertaining him which is quite right!

Lacey55 · 29/08/2025 11:56

Hi @KookySnail I think you have handled this very well and been strong. It must have been very hurtful how he treated you after so I think you did the right thing.
How dare he make you feel like that!

As a side note I have a male friend who is still single at 48. He would love a relationship but he says he genuinely losses interest once he has slept with his dates. It's just something in him that switches off. Some men are strange creatures!

Cavello · 29/08/2025 11:53

The total lack of eye contact and the immediate turning of his back to the OP would seal his fate for me, and immediately going early to the gym in the morning, that is so unbelievably rude. Even if he isn't a cuddler at night (I'm not), a brief hug and kiss afterwards before going to sleep and then coffee together in the morning would have been sufficient to show their interest and keenness, he didn't because he wasn't.

His actions said more than his words ever did. He was a player and it was the chase. Even down to ensuring the venue for their date was near his home🙄

You are far better away from him OP, he'll be a nightmare. I think you have responded exactly right with him.

Bleachedlevis · 29/08/2025 11:40

KookySnail · 29/08/2025 11:35

What does his “high level job” have to do with anything on a Sunday morning on a bank holiday weekend, when he was off to the gym?

And please list the “endless” hoops and tests I’ve put him through. I ordered myself an uber and left his with no fuss, and simply not reached out since.

I was there, and I have enough life experience to sense the situation had switched on his side immediately afterwards.

Talk about stretching to put it back on me.

Yes and the poster seems to have forgotten the total lack of eye contact which I thought was really bad.

Bleachedlevis · 29/08/2025 11:40

KookySnail · 29/08/2025 11:35

What does his “high level job” have to do with anything on a Sunday morning on a bank holiday weekend, when he was off to the gym?

And please list the “endless” hoops and tests I’ve put him through. I ordered myself an uber and left his with no fuss, and simply not reached out since.

I was there, and I have enough life experience to sense the situation had switched on his side immediately afterwards.

Talk about stretching to put it back on me.

Yes and the poster seems to have forgotten the total lack of eye contact which I thought was really bad.

Beachtastic · 29/08/2025 11:39

KookySnail · 29/08/2025 11:35

What does his “high level job” have to do with anything on a Sunday morning on a bank holiday weekend, when he was off to the gym?

And please list the “endless” hoops and tests I’ve put him through. I ordered myself an uber and left his with no fuss, and simply not reached out since.

I was there, and I have enough life experience to sense the situation had switched on his side immediately afterwards.

Talk about stretching to put it back on me.

I stand corrected on the busy work day ahead... 😔 I pictured the whole thing differently, having misread your OP!

KookySnail · 29/08/2025 11:35

Beachtastic · 29/08/2025 09:46

Sorry OP, I am struggling to word this but I just don't get it!

I might have missed something crucial but from my understanding of a brief read-through, you liked each other enough to have sex. He then had work in the morning and, because you didn't, warned you he'd be getting up early. Next morning, he went into the sort of "work prep" mode that I probably would (you mention his high-level professional job, requiring mental preparation for another all-day performance). He's contacted you a couple of times since, but because the messages were not as attentive and detailed as usual you have ignored and subsequently blocked him, is that right?

You were put out that he didn't text you to check that you got home OK, when we walked you to the door and there was an Uber waiting for you? You mention roadworks in the street... are you cross that he didn't spend the day worrying that you might have fallen down a pothole on your way to the taxi?

Then you were angry with him for not making contact, although he was busy in a high-pressure job and you could easily have contacted him yourself, but refused to do so.

We're all different, but I don't see anything wrong with the messages he sent. I quite liked the first one ("Recovered yet?" could refer to the drinks and/or the sex!), and the second asking if you were ignoring him was clearly justified. To me, there's absolutely nothing there to justify your wounded pride. I don't understand PPs' big rounds of applause and delight that he is probably wondering if he "underperformed." That's pretty nasty about someone you once liked enough to get into bed with.

I'm afraid this jumped out at me:
Because on the topic, why is it on women to gatekeep and withhold sex, and make men jump through endless hoops and tests to prove that their intentions are as they lead us to believe?
Why is the onus not on men to be honest, and act like a civilised respectful human being?
From his perspective, he probably wonders why he's suddenly being given the silent treatment. You seem to be demanding the endless hoops and tests, and not being very honest or respectful towards him.

This also jumped out at me:
On the last call he told me “You’re very pretty but most importantly you’re a kind person, that’s more important to me than anything else”. 🙄
I have chosen not to reach out to him first to call things off because I don’t want to give him the satisfaction in thinking I’m bothered by this (even though I am 😅)

You could easily have met up with him again to check out whether his attitude has changed in the way you immediately assumed, but that ship has sailed now sadly.

What does his “high level job” have to do with anything on a Sunday morning on a bank holiday weekend, when he was off to the gym?

And please list the “endless” hoops and tests I’ve put him through. I ordered myself an uber and left his with no fuss, and simply not reached out since.

I was there, and I have enough life experience to sense the situation had switched on his side immediately afterwards.

Talk about stretching to put it back on me.

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