To think people who work part-time shouldn’t get the same promotion chances as full-timers?

I work very part-time and usually contribute more in a week than my full-time colleague does. Still waiting for management to effectively performance manage the full timer!
if the full timer was offered promotion opportunities ahead of me, I would be fuming!

Don't be daft. The part timer may be absolutely brilliant at the prompted job and may want to adjust their hours

If a role genuinely can’t be done in 3 days, the employer has the option to hire someone who is more competent on full time hours, or hire two people for a job share.

A business isn’t going to promote a part time employee where it isn’t merited. Part time workers are at a disadvantage by people working full time who think they work harder just because they work more.

If someone on a part time contract has been promoted over you on a full time contract, then they’ve overcome a lot of hurdles. You need to accept they are better at their job than you. Even if you think you’re equal. If you aren’t happy that you have been looked over for a promotion, whether it went to someone part time or not, then look elsewhere.

Well yes, they need to be available. That goes without saying.

I work part time and I do my job more efficiently than some people who work full time. The green eyed monster is out tonight I think.

Years ago I was interviewing alongside a colleague. One candidate was very proud of his 25 years of experience. After the interview my colleague said 'That's not 25 years of different and developing experience, that is one year of experience repeated exactly the same 25 times!'

The promotion should be given to the person that best meets the knowledge, skills, attributes etc required for the job.

Whether they are part time or full time, gender, age, race, religion etc shouldn't impact things, unless one if those factors is part of the job requirements.

If it is a full time job, and someone part time is best fit, then it would be for the employer and employee to work out if and how that can be managed.

However, the part time employee should also be thinking about that and discussing it with the employer before putting in the application.

You’d love where I work, OP.

Person A: fantastically inefficient but tells dept head (not her line manager) how busy she is and she should get promoted, which he does without consolation with her line manager.

Person B: does the job in a timely and efficient manner, to the extent of doing the same job in 4 days a week rather than 5. Promotion? What promotion? She’s not bringing in any more money (though she is saving the company 20% of her salary).

I worked 20 hours a week. When dd1 went to school and twins got funded nursery I could afford to work more hours so went for promotion and got it. Yes I’d been part time but before dc I worked full time and was hugely successful. Unfortunately my job was relocated and so I took redundancy and looked for part time roles while dc were little and I rethought my career. 2009-2013 I worked part time, then was promoted and I’ve been very successful. Working less hours at one point in my career didn’t make me of less value it was just the right balance for my family. My skills were there important part when it came to Interview, as they should be!

Ah okay. Sorry I didn’t get this from your initial post. It’s interesting because in most industries I’ve worked in it is in fact rare to find senior leadership on official PT hours, but I do find senior leadership obviously have a lot more scope to flex and adjust their own working.

Just weird to ask this question.

There is nothing magic or sacrosanct about five days. It's a made up custom.

Promotion should be about impact per hour being paid.

I think the world would be a much better place if we all learnt critical thinking skills.

Well the Part Time Workers Regulations that protect part timers from being treated differently due to their p/t status say that they should have equal access to training and promotion opportunities, and rightly so.

it is as rare as hens teeth for two people to be equally “good”. People are individuals and one will always be a better fit for the promotion role, it might be close but there is always something.

Yes the hours are part of the equation.

That's why they're considered at the time of the promotion being offered.

Plenty of higher up people are part time workers.

If they were failing due to not working enough hours, this would be addressed in their assessments with their line managers.

The best candidate will get the promotion, We have a lot working PT some of whom far outperform FT team members. They are often happier with a better work life balance.

It’s not complicated. If the job needs full time hours it is appointed as such, either by refusing part time hours and appointing someone who can work full time or by filling the job with two part time people who job share. If the employer advertises a full time role, appoints a part time person and doesn’t fill the gap, it’s the employers responsibility to deal with that.

Ten years ago I participated in a research programme that found that you were seven times less likely to get promoted if you were part-time than full-time. My organisation tried to improve this but I would say that full time staff were still far more likely to get promoted than part-time staff.

I only ever worked PT as it suited my need to have quite a bit of downtime around working (turned out I'm ND). However, I worked very hard in whatever hours I did do and would regard comments like the Ops as really pretty rude and unappreciative of my contribution.

Have you been outshone by a part-timer?

Really poor argument op. Also putting organisations at the risk of indirect discrimination and claims against them

Hours worked is irrelevant really if you’re shit at your job, I’ve seen part time staff carry a team and full time staff so nothing more than turn up, drink a few coffees and then go home.

You can be the best employee and be part time and the worst but full time, it really doesn’t matter for promotion. All that matters is that the best candidate gets the job and is capable of meeting the criteria, it’s irrelevant if both of those things are true whether they work 16 hours or 37.