To think people who work part-time shouldn’t get the same promotion chances as full-timers?

YABU. If someone working part time has better skills and knowledge than someone working full time, the part time worker is more deserving of progression. If they have been working for the same length of time I'd say they're even more deserving as they have elevated their skills and knowledge quicker despite having less working hours.

There is a certain amount of work to be done in a firm; whether it’s done by 5 full time people of 3 full time people and 4 part time people makes no difference to anyone (although the flexibility to hire part timers will probably increase the talent pool significantly). YABU

Agreed.

Thankfully the law disagrees… part-time workers have legal protections against such misconceptions (including being treated unfavourably). Should add I’ve always worked FT but most of my PT colleagues equally as committed in my experience:

www.gov.uk/part-time-worker-rights

Overall contribution is irrelevant. Both employees are only being asked, expected and paid to contribute their contracted hours. Even if we close our eyes and pretend that they're both 'equally good', there is no expectation that the 3-day employee will complete the same volume of work as the 5-day employee.

The promotion will presumably involve different duties, responsibilities etc. Assuming both employees would stick to their 3/5 day pattern there are only two things to consider:

1- Can the requirements of the new role be completed in 3 days (or with a job share)?

2- Who is better suited overall for that role?

This is no different an attitude to people who think being in a role for a long time entitles you to progression, and are repeated shocked to find out that is rarely the case.

Like it or not, that's the law of the land - part time workers can be treated no less favourably, or given less opportunity tgan full-time staff

Yep.

You can't treat part time workers less favourably, thank god.

www.acas.org.uk/part-time-workers

Wouldn’t it be easier to just explain the story that’s actually happened rather than this weird general nonsense that you’re apparently worried about.

www.gov.uk/part-time-worker-rights

A few times I have encountered situations where a part-time worker was promoted as it was cheaper than promoting a full-time worker. These tended to be roles where the extra responsibility was planning and/or technical rather than direct supervision. In one case the assistant manager was part-time but worked full time when the manager was on holiday.

what if the part timer has worked there for 10 years and the full timer only 2? overall the part timer has "delivered" more for the company overall, so how does that work in your lack of logic?

Also how does it work when vacancies are external? The best person could be a candidate from outside the organisation who hasn't delivered anything at all for the company at that stage, compared to internal candidates for whom it would be a promotion.

Promotions aren't direct rewards for doing well - that's what pay is for. People get promoted because there's a job that needs filling and they're the best candidate. The aim of an interview (internal candidate or not) should be to find the best candidate for the NEW role, not the person who works hardest/achieves most at their current one.

Meh, I'm four days a week and have specifically gone down a specialist path for promotion because that's the type of role that can be done part time and in flexible hours.

If I was going the management route in my line of work it would have to be full time again (or possibly a job share) because there are too many decisions required in very short turn arounds to do reduced hours even though I'd be more than capable of doing the work.

They aren't just slacking off on Thursday and Friday. They are not being paid for that time. If the company is not employing anyone else and that's leaving excess work to be done on Thursday and Friday, that's poor management. Nothing to do with the part time staff member.

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You know it isn’t

When I went back to work part-time after mat leave I found myself in that hole of still having my full time workload.

I don't think 'hours worked' is a reliable metric for determining suitability for promotion.

I agree! I'm present in the office more often than most of my full-time colleagues and no-one picks up the slack on my non-working day - stuff just waits for me to come back. My direct reports like my non-working day because they say it's their chance in the week to catch their breath and clear their feet. I pack a lot into the days I do work, and as I've said already on this thread I deliver more in a week than many of my full-time peers. I agree with @WimbyAce that there is a lot of time wasted by full-time workers, and part-time workers are often more efficient and driven.

Career progression is dependent on business need. They call the shots. If they want a full time manager that is totally their call.

Job shares?

First off OP said part timers shouldn’t get promoted over full time because “they’ve put less in”……

then OP changed their tune to faux concern about who has to deal with emergencies on the part time workers day off…… (which is the lamest argument ever because this RARELY happens and when it does, genuine emergencies go up the chain of command not down!!)

then it became an issue about “posturing”……

honestly OP, why don’t you just say that a part time colleague got promoted over you and you’re salty about it?

I don’t understand the rationale for excluding part-timers in this way. The part-timer could be much better at the job on the next level up than the full-timer.

Absolute codswallop!

Utter bollocks

I work part time. Been there 18 months & am already more knowledgeable, efficient & autonomous than a 15 year full time staff member. She can't do anything for herself & knows almost nothing. Can't solve a problem & spends her time chatting on the phone to family & friends.

Why should she get an opportunity that I can't?

Fyi no one carries the load when I'm not there. My work waits until I am there.

Full time workers are much more visible, also part time workers rely heavily on other people to carry on the work whilst they are not in the office so can rarely fully be given the credit for tasks as achievements were jointly carried out, full time workers tend to do more overtime and are more available, full time workers generally do more office socialising than part timers, full timers are there all the time so lees chance of other people taking the credit for their work…..unfortunately I could go on and on

Agree with this. Have always felt since moving to part time if you compared my work achieved against the full timers it exceeds it both in volume and standard. There is a lot of time wasted by the full timers.