To think people who work part-time shouldn’t get the same promotion chances as full-timers?

They don’t. I mean part-time workers are concentrated in basic, entry level jobs.

Precisely because most managers work full time and therefore discriminate against them.

How utterly ridiculous.

It should be about the person and their abilities.

I work FT but I can’t STAND this butthurt attitude some FT people have over part time people. When my DC were little I was PT and used to be sick of the comments about “Oh are you leaving early?”. No Gareth I’m leaving on time, they don’t pay me after 3pm you twat waffle.

I also think a lot of PT people end up doing a FT job in fewer hours.

What a horrible person you are. They are entitled to advance their careers too!

Your logic demonstrates discrimination against part-time workers. People work part-time for all sorts of reasons, none of them because they're substandard at their job.

you have your opinion I have mine…..now calm the hell down

I've never known people to have exactly equal skills when looking beyond a team leader level, so the situation wouldn't arise; one candidate will be better than the other and more deserving of promotion. It doesn't matter if they're part time or full time if they add more value.

“Putting in” 🥴
By that same wonky logic, promotions should be given to part timers as they aren’t ‘taking out’ 5 days of wages.

Tried to edit to bashers not bashers though I like the thought of benefits badgers

It also sounds like the trap that benefits bashers like to use - the only works part-time tops up on UC using my hard earned tax etc., why can’t they get a better job…..
Now you know they are facing desired discrimination if they DO try to better themselves

I think your description is often the reality.

My view is that part-time makes no difference, best person ‘wins’. Politics and stupidity of management could well play out as you describe. Does it always? No. Can it? Yes.

That would be indirect sex discrimination since women disproportionately make up the part time work force.

So because I disagreed with your assertions about full time workers being “more visible”, “more willing to do overtime” etc etc (which is rubbish by the way, certainly in every organisation I’ve worked in for the last 25 years) and now you presume to know how I think?

I stand by my response - bizarre

Reading through all your posts OP, this seems to be more about availability than hours worked (which is more understandable because I'd have been annoyed if you were suggesting the 45 hours I worked last week over four days weren't 'enough').

Thinking of my workplace, it's hard to work part time and I'm often online or on emails on my non-working day. My boss is very good at letting me take time back where I can. If I were to progress to Head of Team, it would be ever harder. The department needs a Head available throughout normal working hours. So I'd probably end up being even more available when I'm 'not working'.

I, as a part timer (I work 4 days a week instead of 5) was promoted to a senior role when several staff, all of whom were full time, were interviewed for it at the same time. My team have flourished and know that if there's an issue they can contact me at any time. I'm not cocky enough to suggest that a couple of them wouldn't have been brilliant at the job, but I was considered the most suited and I've worked hard to ensure my team meet all their targets and are looked after. They know they can come to me at literally any time and I'll do my best to help.

Full time doesn't necessarily mean better.

That’s the type of response I would expect from you

Surely promotion is earned by being good at the job. It depends on the job I guess, but there's no reason a part-timer couldn't be as good as, or better than, a full-timer.

Bizarre……

depends how much value you add in the time you’re there and how good you are at your job. You rather keep someone who is valuable and can only work part time, as opposed to someone who can work full
time / over time but is replaceable.

We all know who benefits from valuing things like 'worked more overall hours' and exactly who is disadvantaged.

There are some people that believe some jobs can't be part time, but this is a belief rather than fact and affects women's careers more.

If we want a successful society then women need career opportunities as well and can't be limited by the fact that are also bringing up the next generation of doctors, nurses, soldiers etc.

Part time role models should be encouraged at the most senior levels.

'Putting in more hours'? You mean, working more days than part time workers and earning a correspondingly higher salary? Full time workers are not putting in an extra two days effort for nothing. If anything its part time workers who tend to put in the extra as they have spare capacity that full time workers don't. Two part time workers job sharing tend to offer more to a business than one FTE for this reason.

UABVU, why assume that someone who works part time is not as apt or conscientious as someone up work full time? Just because someone works “full time” doesn’t mean they are working all the hours they are paid for.
in my experience, those working full time then to always want to do all their work and many times work above and beyond the hours they are paid for.
your view is also quite discriminatory- many people who work part time, are likely to have to childcare responsibilities, long term illness, care for elderly or disabled parents/ children.

you probably already know all this but…. Anyways

If someone is exceeding what is expected of them in the hours they are paid for, doesn’t matter how many hours they work, they deserve promotion.
if It’s a new role promotion (rather than in-role-progression), as others have said - depends if the job can be done part time.

They only get paid for 3 days as opposed to 5 days. And they get less holiday allowance.

other than that, why should there be a difference?

YABVU. By your thinking someone who works part time in a junior role will be stuck there, never to be promoted, simply because they’re part time.

It is discrimination and you are not helping.