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Sick of ai being pushed down our collective throats with no choice in the matter.

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chaosmaker · 24/08/2025 08:49

I find it increasingly threatening to our collective safety, the extent that our current idiocy in westminster is in bed with big tech and forcing ai on us.
I can't delete it from devices. Most social media is now embedding it again with no clue as to what they are hoping to achieve with it.
Children and young teens are increasingly using it to tell all their problems to and thinking of it as a sentient friend.
Nobody seems to be looking long term at how we are deskilling ourselves and trusting a database to tell them what to do when they are engaging with it.
It is possible to go through each whatsapp message and make it private from ai but with conditions. None of which I care about so have made mine private. Also can't search whatsapp for friends or ai does an internet search on them without actually connecting you to them.
WHO is holding all this data and what will it be used for above marketing purposes. I also spend a lot of time unticking the 'legitimate interest' boxes. It's not MY legitimate interest.

In general I think more tech is making us more stupid.
AIBU - no, no we need all the tech we can get
INBU (might have got the acronym wrong) - it's obviously right to be concerned about all this tech 'creep' into the world

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Mrsmunchofmunchington · 25/08/2025 08:36

I agree.
I despair of people outsourcing their thinking.

RimTimTagiDim · 25/08/2025 08:36

Loopylalalou · 25/08/2025 08:33

Without wishing to be overly dramatic, I see the growing dominance of AI as the beginning of the end of life as we know it.

I'd love to see you being dramatic then.

RimTimTagiDim · 25/08/2025 08:35

My job is always listed as one of the first to go because of AI (actually LLMs, which is not the same). It's not true. The companies using LLMs instead of humans are now at a disadvantage and have started hiring humans again.

BrickBiscuit · 25/08/2025 08:35

AI is a product of the IT industry. Search 'IT failures'. That industry is a crock of shit, and will fuck up massively.

nomas · 25/08/2025 08:34

mondaytosunday · 25/08/2025 08:30

Well you couldn’t use this site without AI.
I don’t like the amount of ads I see which are AI generated (interiors, models etc). I don’t know anyone who uses it as a ‘friend’. I do worry how many entry level jobs are now done by AI but I’m sure the same has been said with any new invention and technology- I used to work in publishing and a whole sector (typesetting) was pretty much wiped out overnight when computers and desktop publishing came in.
Also my DD is at uni and using AI to write /organise essays is an issue as AI doesn’t think or reason and
can just be plain inaccurate.
But it is also hugely beneficial. I would (literally) be lost without my satnav. I have a chronic illness and there are developing tools to help. I think the medical field has benefited greatly from AI.

Well you couldn’t use this site without AI.

In what way?

Loopylalalou · 25/08/2025 08:33

Without wishing to be overly dramatic, I see the growing dominance of AI as the beginning of the end of life as we know it.

mondaytosunday · 25/08/2025 08:30

Well you couldn’t use this site without AI.
I don’t like the amount of ads I see which are AI generated (interiors, models etc). I don’t know anyone who uses it as a ‘friend’. I do worry how many entry level jobs are now done by AI but I’m sure the same has been said with any new invention and technology- I used to work in publishing and a whole sector (typesetting) was pretty much wiped out overnight when computers and desktop publishing came in.
Also my DD is at uni and using AI to write /organise essays is an issue as AI doesn’t think or reason and
can just be plain inaccurate.
But it is also hugely beneficial. I would (literally) be lost without my satnav. I have a chronic illness and there are developing tools to help. I think the medical field has benefited greatly from AI.

BogRollBOGOF · 25/08/2025 08:28

PeriJane · 24/08/2025 09:01

AI is not going anywhere. People need to learn how to work with it or they risk falling behind professionally. Using AI properly requires a good level of digital literacy skills, general literacy skills, critical thinking skills, problem solving skills…..those that refuse to upskill in this area will be the ones AI replaces. Those that learn to make AI work for them will be fine.

What do we do with the people that don't have those attributes?

We already have neighbourhoods/ small towns dominated by the impact of de-industrialisation since the 1980s where skills and opportunities didn't align and have left zones of poverty where there's no aspiration, and it's very difficult to leave that cycle. And opportunities for adult re-training are a hell of a lot worse than they were then.

ArseInTheCoOpWindow · 25/08/2025 08:26

This is Luddism

Its happened, we can’t go back only foward. Accepting and adapting is the only way. It can’t be uninvented.

YelloDaisy · 25/08/2025 08:20

Ah but which company designed the parking apps?

FoxRedPuppy · 25/08/2025 08:18

YelloDaisy · 25/08/2025 08:15

They will know your name age address, health issues, fingerprints if you have a police record, photo id, passport details,ni number, dna if you’ve had that researched, etc so when they or someone controlling them decide to reduce the population they can programme a drone to find you and turn you into a puff of smoke - unless the leaders want you as a food grower, careworker or miner . Then you’ll be spared for a life of drudgery.

The parking apps I use don’t have my fingerprints or health issues 😂

YelloDaisy · 25/08/2025 08:15

They will know your name age address, health issues, fingerprints if you have a police record, photo id, passport details,ni number, dna if you’ve had that researched, etc so when they or someone controlling them decide to reduce the population they can programme a drone to find you and turn you into a puff of smoke - unless the leaders want you as a food grower, careworker or miner . Then you’ll be spared for a life of drudgery.

chaosmaker · 25/08/2025 08:14

Which bit?

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FoxRedPuppy · 25/08/2025 08:08

chaosmaker · 25/08/2025 08:03

But apps are crappy and you really should have a right to park a car, pay with cash and not give all your data away in an app. They don't need to know any of the information given away in apps.
The thing is. Idiot starmer obviously idolizes tony blair. Who has his stinking fingers knuckles deep in ai. Part of what his institute does. Government is trying to crowbar ai in into important areas of life. Again Private Eye is keeping a watch on this and every fortnight there has been a new little bit of info on what departments they want it to take jobs in.
As I'm typing this I have had an ad come up that is Billy Idol against ai.......

I mean this just sounds tin foil hatty…

FoxRedPuppy · 25/08/2025 08:07

chaosmaker · 25/08/2025 08:03

But apps are crappy and you really should have a right to park a car, pay with cash and not give all your data away in an app. They don't need to know any of the information given away in apps.
The thing is. Idiot starmer obviously idolizes tony blair. Who has his stinking fingers knuckles deep in ai. Part of what his institute does. Government is trying to crowbar ai in into important areas of life. Again Private Eye is keeping a watch on this and every fortnight there has been a new little bit of info on what departments they want it to take jobs in.
As I'm typing this I have had an ad come up that is Billy Idol against ai.......

See I love the parking apps. I never carry cash about and it’s so much more convenient. Not sure what top secret data I am sharing with them, apart from my name and email address.

I don’t think you should be forced to use them. But that is capitalism, not specifically AI. Private companies will do what is convenient to them to make the most money. Apps are more secure in the sense of not being robbed like parking machines used to be.

chaosmaker · 25/08/2025 08:06

@Elsvieta just because you can do a thing, doesn't mean you should. Lots of brilliant inventors don't seem able to see what other applications can be used for their stuff beyond what they are designing it for.
The printing press couldn't store information up about your deepest, darkest secrets in the cloud even if you told it them. Not the same at all.

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chaosmaker · 25/08/2025 08:03

But apps are crappy and you really should have a right to park a car, pay with cash and not give all your data away in an app. They don't need to know any of the information given away in apps.
The thing is. Idiot starmer obviously idolizes tony blair. Who has his stinking fingers knuckles deep in ai. Part of what his institute does. Government is trying to crowbar ai in into important areas of life. Again Private Eye is keeping a watch on this and every fortnight there has been a new little bit of info on what departments they want it to take jobs in.
As I'm typing this I have had an ad come up that is Billy Idol against ai.......

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Elsvieta · 24/08/2025 21:08

There's always resistance to every new technology - I mean, there were complaints that this newfangled printing thing was going to wreck our memories as well as spreading seditious ideas. I don't like AI either and have so far not (knowingly) had anything to do with it, but I'm thinking I'm really going to have to make an effort to at least understand it. Otherwise I'll be getting "old" before I'm 50. My idea of being old is getting to that point where you just decide you can't cope with any new stuff (probably disguising it with a lot of "it's all stupid, unnecessary and probably dangerous anyway") and put up the mental walls and before you know it you're living in a world you don't understand and can't function normally in. Like my grandma with the internet, or the man I encountered in a car park today who couldn't or wouldn't download a parking app and was getting in a rage about his "right" to park without it (he had a smartphone, offered to show him, wasn't having it). It may have its downsides like anything else, but if we don't get on board we'll be left behind. With young people rolling their eyes, like I do at old people who can't use a smartphone.

cariadlet · 24/08/2025 21:05

user1471453601 · 24/08/2025 18:44

I think AI is ok, in its place. But we need to remember that it's just a large
Language Model, ie it knows a lot of words And has "learned" which words usually come after which other words.

So it knows a lot of words but that is not intelligence. And it's not experience. All it knows is words.

So id be happy to have AI collate all my chronic illnesses and alert the doctor to the fact that one drug I'm taking for one of them may be contributing to an increase in symptoms of another illness.

I wouldn't trust AI to diagnose, for example, anxiety. Because that would need someone with life experience and empathy to understand what the best course of action is right for me

AI is a tool and like all tools, from printing to the internet, can be used for good or for ill.

I agree that the forms of AI with which most of us will come into casual contact are large language models. But LLMs are just one category of AI. Generative AI is another kind of AI which is becoming increasingly widespread. A more recent development is the use of multi-agent systems (MAS) and compound AI systems for complex problem solving or task completion.

Already, some jobs are being replaced by AI (as jobs in the past have been replaced by new technology) and other jobs, people need to use AI in order to compete with others in their field who use AI.

I guess that, just like every other thing that people have invented, some of the impacts of AI will be fantastic and others will be completely shit.

FoxRedPuppy · 24/08/2025 20:50

AmIHumanOrAmIAYeti · 24/08/2025 20:10

Cancers aren’t gendered. They’re inherently linked to biological sex.

Alright, I’m full, cars carrying terf. I just couldn’t think of the terminology. Sexed cancer?

Geminis · 24/08/2025 20:30

I love it personally. Has really improved my life.

CharlotteCChapel · 24/08/2025 20:19

I worry how well live in the future. AI has the potential to takeover a lot of jobs including well paid ones. Once we give in there will be a time when the jobless outnumber the employed. Then who will pay for the jobless to have food, a roof over their heads etc.

nomas · 24/08/2025 20:14

I’m just glad I’ll be dead by the time a company like Skynet rules the world.

DuesToTheDirt · 24/08/2025 20:13

AI even wants to help me write comments and check my grammar on facebook. Like I'm an idiot that can't even write a sentence. Well, maybe in a few years we WILL all be idiots.

And currently most people can spot AI writing, pictures of videos. But it won't be long before they are indistinguishable, which is going to be very difficult for identifying fraud. Here's just one example from this morning's news. Not to mention deepfake porn etc.

Emily Portman holding a guitar and speaking into a microphone on stage

'AI slop': Emily Portman and musicians on the mystery of fraudsters releasing songs in their name

Artists on the mystery of being targeted by fraudsters releasing "AI slop" songs in their name.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/clydz8d03dvo

stuckdownahole · 24/08/2025 20:11

The free AI that you get with your computer or smartphone is generally crap and tends to get things wrong, but it will be widely used because it enables people who write intermediate-level English and have it as their second or third language to pretend that they are fluent.

There are a lot of such people in the developing world, very eager for outsourced jobs from the West. At present, the free AI has certain tells in its writing style that can be easily identified with practice but those will be improved upon because as someone said upthread, AI is essentially a large language model.

I don't think it will take over from humans. I think it will enable less skilled and educated humans to perform jobs from which they were traditionally excluded and if you live in a Western country, that should be enough to worry you.

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