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LowlySeal · 24/08/2025 07:58

What a nightmare. I think you recognise the possibilty of the ex and his mother turning the boy against you. That is making you realise that the best way of not losing him completely means trying to accomodate your sons wishes as much as possible. I think you have a gut feeling here that fighting hard for him which would be the first instinct might not work here. Perhaps the son needs to learn the reality of living there so he can can see the reality. I would be thinking the same here - trying to be seen to work along your sons wishes as much as possible. Moving schools as a teen is mostly a problem when being done against their will. However I wouldn

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Franklekirk · 24/08/2025 07:57

Justanotherusername01 · 24/08/2025 07:52

I did not fight. My situation was complicated and I haven’t seen two of my children since 2nd June 2023.

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I’m sorry. Do you now wish you’d fought? Do you think the outcome would be different?

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Franklekirk · 24/08/2025 07:56

Justpeachy88 · 24/08/2025 07:51

I had to do this, even the emergency court hearing took over 2 months. Be careful OP as if your son does go to visit, he could keep him there without your say so and apply for the new school anyway. It happened to me and I had to fight to keep his current school place open.

I fought for residency because I knew it wasn’t what was best for my son and once he’d have moved there I’d have basically have lost my son for good as they weren’t interested in keeping communication open and started cutting me off. I’m not saying this will be the case with you, but who’s to say once your son is there that they’ll not try to push you out of his life completely? People have a habit of doing this once they get what they want.

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What was the outcome?

Yes I expect they will try and push me out

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SomeOfTheTrouble · 24/08/2025 07:56

RubySquid · 24/08/2025 07:56

But why? I lived with my dad ( my choice) when my parents split. My mum respected that and didn't cause loads of hassle dragging it through the courts.

I had an excellent relationship with her until her death. May not have been so good of she had " fought" for me causing dad stress which would've also made our house stressful.

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Was your dad a narcissistic bully?

Dancingsquirrels · 24/08/2025 07:56

MySweetGeorgina · 23/08/2025 23:10

I think it is good for your son to know you fought to keep him, that you wanted him, and that is why I would fight, whatever the outcome, for the long term importance and your future relationship with him

This approach coukd backfire if child feels OP fought for custody and disregarded his views and wishes

OP, one approach might be to suggest he goes to Dad for one term, see how it goes and then the adults will decide long term plans. Some children don't want the responsibility of deciding where to live

SomeOfTheTrouble · 24/08/2025 07:56

Franklekirk · 24/08/2025 07:48

I wish it wasn’t real. Full of emotion. However having been told on Sunday and being with my son constantly since, I haven’t yet broken down no. Saving that for when he leaves today.

I am trying to look at it from all angles. I have done what many posters have suggested and have explained it may not be as happy as he’s expecting as being the day to day parent is very different to being the weekend parent. I have discussed whether I should fight with my son, and told him I haven’t yet decided because yes his views are important but I am not sure he’ll be happier there.

I’ve also said the move won’t be happening at the start of term (however I do think if he is going to move eventually then start of term would be beneficial to him). I’ve explained we can do and see the new school, as other posters have said if it even has space!

I know people are saying I’ve given up, I really haven’t. I do feel broken but I will fight with everything I’ve got if I think it’s the right thing. There is no “win”

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Why do you think he’s going to be able to hide his narcissistic, bullying personality from your son?

RubySquid · 24/08/2025 07:56

MySweetGeorgina · 23/08/2025 23:10

I think it is good for your son to know you fought to keep him, that you wanted him, and that is why I would fight, whatever the outcome, for the long term importance and your future relationship with him

But why? I lived with my dad ( my choice) when my parents split. My mum respected that and didn't cause loads of hassle dragging it through the courts.

I had an excellent relationship with her until her death. May not have been so good of she had " fought" for me causing dad stress which would've also made our house stressful.

Newusername1234567 · 24/08/2025 07:53

Justanotherusername01 · 24/08/2025 07:52

I did not fight. My situation was complicated and I haven’t seen two of my children since 2nd June 2023.

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Omg i dont want to derail the thread by asking what happened but i am really sorry

Ophy83 · 24/08/2025 07:53

If he was to move, could you also move so he can spend half the time at yours? The 2 hour distance is making it an "all or nothing" situation where surely it is in his best interests to see both parents on a weekly basis

Justanotherusername01 · 24/08/2025 07:52

Franklekirk · 23/08/2025 22:42

I’m in a really awful situation. Very outing but my 11 year old son came home on Sunday and told me he wants to move in with his dad. We split up 3 years ago and son has been with me since, sees his dad every other weekend and half the holidays.

son found the divorce very difficult to accept and has had counselling at primary school. We’re very close. dad wanted him to live with him, I’ve always said sons choice.

dad is very manipulative/ narcissistic. Over the years him and his mum have constantly bad mouthed me to my son, which he has found very upsetting. All sorts but things like calling me a “fucking fat pig”, making up all sorts of reasons he divorced me (I eventually kicked him out after numerous affairs), and telling me son they’d call social services on me but I’d lie to the social worker (I’ve said I’d welcome this as there is nothing to report).

however he’s obviously had a nice couple of weeks there with 1 week abroad. He’s told me he wants to move there for the start of secondary. Problem is this is 2 hours away so would mean moving to a school he’s not looked around (but his cousins go there).

my sons been sold a lifestyle, such as being told maintenance should go to the child so he can have a football season ticket etc whereas we don’t have spare finances (I do work full time in a well paid job but have a very expensive mortgage im
tied into which is another story of ex….).

as well as the huge financial implication on me, but this doesn’t effect the decision as that’s my issue not his.

I obviously want to fight to keep him but I don’t think it’s the right decision as legally his dad can keep him as we have no custody agreement, my son wants to go and at 11 gets a say. Yes ex is a prick but my son still has contact with him and will actually be nicer to him if hes “won”.

im arranging mediation to give my son someone impartial to speak to but we only have 1.5 weeks until he starts secondary and would starting here as planned and moving a couple of months later impact him
negatively?

Everyone says I should fight but I think I should listen to my son. Please help, I’m lost

I did not fight. My situation was complicated and I haven’t seen two of my children since 2nd June 2023.

Justpeachy88 · 24/08/2025 07:51

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 24/08/2025 06:34

You apply for an emergency court hearing so he can explain in front of a judge why he unilaterally decided to change his son's place of residence and secondary school without even discussing it with you.

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I had to do this, even the emergency court hearing took over 2 months. Be careful OP as if your son does go to visit, he could keep him there without your say so and apply for the new school anyway. It happened to me and I had to fight to keep his current school place open.

I fought for residency because I knew it wasn’t what was best for my son and once he’d have moved there I’d have basically have lost my son for good as they weren’t interested in keeping communication open and started cutting me off. I’m not saying this will be the case with you, but who’s to say once your son is there that they’ll not try to push you out of his life completely? People have a habit of doing this once they get what they want.

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Franklekirk · 24/08/2025 07:51

YelloDaisy · 24/08/2025 07:05

What are the cousins like - what ages - you can’t guarantee a good relationship with them

Slightly older girls, they get on very well and the family is close up there. A plus that he doesn’t have down here

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Newusername1234567 · 24/08/2025 07:49

Some ppl suggesting to let him choose are bonkers. He is 11 ffs. He can get manipulated easy, he is naive (due to his age!). Yeah great if he is going to be taken care of there but with the way they are about you, you might kiss and goodbye your son. He will be exposed easily to all this lies and you wont be there to help him. Fight.

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Franklekirk · 24/08/2025 07:48

Dancingdance · 24/08/2025 06:52

Your posts sound emotionless. You grew and birthed this boy and raised him for 11 years and now you’re not bothered if he lives 2 hours from you? I don’t think you’re a genuine poster.

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I wish it wasn’t real. Full of emotion. However having been told on Sunday and being with my son constantly since, I haven’t yet broken down no. Saving that for when he leaves today.

I am trying to look at it from all angles. I have done what many posters have suggested and have explained it may not be as happy as he’s expecting as being the day to day parent is very different to being the weekend parent. I have discussed whether I should fight with my son, and told him I haven’t yet decided because yes his views are important but I am not sure he’ll be happier there.

I’ve also said the move won’t be happening at the start of term (however I do think if he is going to move eventually then start of term would be beneficial to him). I’ve explained we can do and see the new school, as other posters have said if it even has space!

I know people are saying I’ve given up, I really haven’t. I do feel broken but I will fight with everything I’ve got if I think it’s the right thing. There is no “win”

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BlazenWeights · 24/08/2025 07:46

Sounds like you really want him to go to his dads’….

ByQuaintAzureWasp · 24/08/2025 07:38

I would fight because the father is a very bad parent. No father should use demeaning words when talking to a child about the other parent. It is not in a child's best interests to live with such a parent.

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Franklekirk · 24/08/2025 07:37

JMSA · 24/08/2025 04:48

Do you think part of this could be nerves about starting at high school? I agree with the previous poster about giving it until Christmas and then he can decide.

I think that’s part of it yes, he loved summer school there and was excited about friends he’d met but he’s not as confident as he seems and his dad has been selling these other schools to him (rugby scout visits there, outstanding ofsted etc)

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Weepixie · 24/08/2025 07:32

LurkThenPost · 24/08/2025 04:57

I don’t like it because it devalues women into the caring and sacrificing role.

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Your comment is as valid as anyone else’s but perhaps the best place for it today is the Feminist board.

Lafufufu · 24/08/2025 07:31

Laura95167 · 23/08/2025 22:48

Id let son choose. Sometimes being a good parent is about doing whats best for them, and best is sometimes figuring it out themselves.

Id just make it ridiculously clear to DS hes always, always, always welcome to come home

All other things being equal I'd fight but they arent. I do think people learn through experience.

given your situation I'd go with the above.
Maintain contact every other weekend or one evening per week and a day at the weekend or whatever....and be a Disney parent. Make it flew you live him he is always welcome to come back.

Iocainepowder · 24/08/2025 07:30

Does the specific school near his dad actually have space for him? Is there any risk of it being over subscribed and your son would need to go to a different school?

I would ask how ugly things are likely to get if you do fight for him. I say this as a child who was stuck in the middle of 2 bitter parents and used me as a weapon against eachother. My brother chose to only be in contact with one parent during those years and we agree he had an easier time of it.

It may not be in the best interest of your son to involve him in a huge battle.

Simplestars · 24/08/2025 07:29

Franklekirk · 23/08/2025 23:47

Thank you everyone for your opinions. I do see where you’re all coming from but I really don’t see how I can just keep him, we have no legal custody agreement. What do I do if he doesn’t bring him back?

and also why is the mum seen as default parent? He has as many rights as me

This sounds like you don't want your son to live with you.

If you did you would not have posted this thread.

Sad.

Simplestars · 24/08/2025 07:27

Franklekirk · 23/08/2025 22:48

This was obviously my first instinct, but why?

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💯 fight. He will be thankful when he is an adult.
Don't allow his life been ruined by allowing him to live with a narcissist.

Fight till your last breath. Your son is your life.

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Franklekirk · 24/08/2025 07:24

sittingonabeach · 24/08/2025 00:30

Can you afford to pay maintenance? I think you can contest new school application.

No I can’t, I’d have to get at least a second job and sell up asap

that is my only bargaining chip

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Skodacool · 24/08/2025 07:24

It’s all very well that he’s had a nice couple of weeks with Disney dad but he might find normal everyday life less thrilling. Ex and his mother sound very unpleasant with the badmouthing and DS is already upset by this.

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Franklekirk · 24/08/2025 07:21

Empress13 · 24/08/2025 00:14

I can guarantee he’ll be asking to come back home after a few weeks if ex is as you say he is. I’d fight for him. As a matter of interest do you have other children or new partner?

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no new children, I’ve been dating on and off for the last year but son has only met one I was with for 6 months. Not current one. Son is happy with me dating as I do it when he’s not here

sons dad has had a 2 year and 1 year relationship in the 3 years and son is heavily involved with them and their families. No other kids involved

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