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MIL using racist term around DD

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BurlyReptile · 23/08/2025 21:31

I have DD 2.5yo so has got really chatty and is good at speaking and picks up on things quite quickly.

MIL frequently refers to black people using the D-word (starts with D rhymes with snarky) to refer to black people. Every time she uses it I tell her it is racist and she just says she's not meaning it in a racist way. It just seems to be how she refers to black people?? Today I snapped at her a bit more, saying it's a racist term, she knows it's racist term and by using it she is indeed being racist.

She is late 50s so it's not like she's an old 90 year old who thinks it's ok.

I am terrified that DD picks up on this and starts using it, even once would be mortifying. This has been going on since I met her (so years of her being periodically told off by me about it being racist), but now I am really keen to stamp this out around DD in particular, although preferably I'd rather she acknowledged it is racist and not use racist terms again but this is probably asking too much.

DP is generally supportive and disagrees with her saying it, but in general her side of family don't really seem to bother. They don't use it, but nobody else seems to bother that she does. Am I the one being unreasonable here? For the record we are all white.

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Chunkychickenlicken · 23/08/2025 22:21

That reminds me I ended a friendship when a friend who as also a nurse said something racist about her friends Black boyfriend.

I did tell her and gave her a Chance to make amends but she doubled down.

Weirdly enough she was fine with Black women including her colleagues and some close friends . It was a thing she had against Black men of all nationalities.

Gladysknightjustwalkinmyshoes · 23/08/2025 22:20

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Balloonhearts · 23/08/2025 22:20

God, you can't have DD repeating that. Kids her age are like parrots. Especially if she is going to nursery. Imagine that conversation. Who did you play with today DD? Sunita and Asha, the darkies from Blue class. You'd want the ground to swallow you!

It was bad enough when my 5 year old dropped a drink and loudly declared 'Fuck my life!' In front of her nan, I've never been judged so much in my life. And it wasn't even me she was copying but her older brother.

You really have to watch what you say, even if you don't think they're listening. Keep pulling her up on it, even if she doesn't stop, at least it might sink in to DD that it's not acceptable to say.

BurlyReptile · 23/08/2025 22:20

GypsyQueeen · 23/08/2025 22:13

Oh sorry!! 😅

Assumed you were a woman. Well same same I guess. What does your Wife say to her Mum?

She does tell her not to, but not as firmly as I do. In MIL view it's probably me that is being rude as we've had some fall outs in the past.

It is difficult. MIL isn't really the sort of person to take things on board with most things and would continue to do anything once your back is turned (such as vaping in the house).

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Gladysknightjustwalkinmyshoes · 23/08/2025 22:19

MiloMinderbinder925 · 23/08/2025 22:14

It doesn't matter. She went through the politically correct 90s and would be aware of legislation against that kind of language in the workplace and society. She knows it's completely inappropriate.

Of course she would know, please don't think I was making excuses for her.
Just saw she's a nurse so would definitely know about equality in the work place and even casting that aside just behave like a normal human being and being respectful of others.

BIWI · 23/08/2025 22:18

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MrsSkylerWhite · 23/08/2025 22:17

MrCottersJauntyCap · 23/08/2025 21:38

I would tell her straight that unless she stops using that disgusting term you cannot allow her around your child. And mean it.

This.
Why? She’s in her 50s? I’m 61 and know that it’s completely unacceptable.

EmeraldRoulette · 23/08/2025 22:16

MiloMinderbinder925 · 23/08/2025 21:58

She's doing it on purpose to wind you up as no one in their 50s was brought up with that word. She knows it's completely unacceptable.

This

She's trying to get a rise out of people

at least that's one word I've not yet been called. Honestly I have only heard it in books from the 1930s.

Chunkychickenlicken · 23/08/2025 22:15

BurlyReptile · 23/08/2025 22:10

She is also a nurse who must deal with people of all races and must be reasonably professional to keep her job. So she knows it's wrong!!

That’s disgusting, not sure if they can do anything but I’d be reporting her to her employer if she’s ever used this word while wearing her nurse uniform.

And they wonder why POC staff in the NHS complain of racist bullying? There’s no way someone like her treats Black coworkers or patients equally.

HappyNewTaxYear · 23/08/2025 22:15

Tell her that when your child’s nursery or infant school hear her using that word, that they will HAVE to record it as a racist incident. That’s so unfair on your daughter.

SprayWhiteDung · 23/08/2025 22:15

Not only is it horribly racist, what actual reason is there for using a descriptor at all?

In the majority of contexts, it would be 'a woman', 'a group of men', 'a lot of people' etc, if you were commenting that you saw/met/spoke to them for whatever reason.

If you would normally say "I was talking to a woman who passed by" and not (weirdly) "I was talking to a woman wearing a blue jumper who passed by", similarly, why would you even have any need or cause to mention their skin colour - even using a respectful non-racist term?

MiloMinderbinder925 · 23/08/2025 22:14

Gladysknightjustwalkinmyshoes · 23/08/2025 22:11

You're right it is unacceptable unfortunately it and other words of similar nature were widely used in the 70s.
I'd like to have thought we'd come a long way since then.

It doesn't matter. She went through the politically correct 90s and would be aware of legislation against that kind of language in the workplace and society. She knows it's completely inappropriate.

mummysmagicmedicine · 23/08/2025 22:14

I would explain to her and put a stop to it asap. They’re like sponges at this age they copy and repeat everything.

DisforDarkChocolate · 23/08/2025 22:14

I'm her age and I've never used this term! Racist and she knows it.

ExtraOnions · 23/08/2025 22:13

My Mum is 89, she would never dream of using this, is any other racist term .. it’s not been acceptable for 40 years.

GypsyQueeen · 23/08/2025 22:13

BurlyReptile · 23/08/2025 22:09

I am the husband in this scenario, it is my wife's mother.

Oh sorry!! 😅

Assumed you were a woman. Well same same I guess. What does your Wife say to her Mum?

Chunkychickenlicken · 23/08/2025 22:13

BurlyReptile · 23/08/2025 22:09

I am the husband in this scenario, it is my wife's mother.

You need to put a stop to it now, whether it’s stopping your child be around her and letting her know why, trying again to speak to her about it and warning her she has one more chance or asking your wife to issue the warning.

Contraversialcatergory · 23/08/2025 22:12

I have had my father in law point out ‘fat people’ (his words not mine) out the car window with my daughter. I have had to have strong words and really don’t like him any way due to a variety of other reasons. I would def go down hard on her as others have suggested.

nocoolnamesleft · 23/08/2025 22:12

She cannot legitimately say she doesn't know it's racist, as she has been repeatedly informed that it is racist and still uses it. Agree with ultimatum.

BIWI · 23/08/2025 22:11

This is bollocks.

Gladysknightjustwalkinmyshoes · 23/08/2025 22:11

MiloMinderbinder925 · 23/08/2025 21:58

She's doing it on purpose to wind you up as no one in their 50s was brought up with that word. She knows it's completely unacceptable.

You're right it is unacceptable unfortunately it and other words of similar nature were widely used in the 70s.
I'd like to have thought we'd come a long way since then.

BurlyReptile · 23/08/2025 22:10

She is also a nurse who must deal with people of all races and must be reasonably professional to keep her job. So she knows it's wrong!!

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BurlyReptile · 23/08/2025 22:09

GypsyQueeen · 23/08/2025 21:59

But op has been telling her for "years".

5 yrs? 10 yrs? We don't know.

The woman is clearly not listening and it doesn't sound like she has any respect for her DIL.

The husband needs to step up, support his wife and tell his Mother. Maybe she'll listen to him? Because she's clearly taking no notice of the op.

I am the husband in this scenario, it is my wife's mother.

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Delphiniumandlupins · 23/08/2025 22:08

I would have stopped her seeing DD before now. Maybe given her one warning but no more.

Izzywizzy85 · 23/08/2025 22:07

GypsyQueeen · 23/08/2025 21:59

But op has been telling her for "years".

5 yrs? 10 yrs? We don't know.

The woman is clearly not listening and it doesn't sound like she has any respect for her DIL.

The husband needs to step up, support his wife and tell his Mother. Maybe she'll listen to him? Because she's clearly taking no notice of the op.

Well that’s where an ultimatum is useful, isn’t it.

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