HMO

@sciaticafanatica I must have imagined the ten years that I spent as a young professional in London renting rooms in shared terraced houses and flats.

It is a really common way for people in their 20s and 30s to live in expensive cities. Also a lot of councils these days define any property with at least 3 people of different households sharing facilties such as a kitchen and bathroom as an HMO. That could be three single women in their thirties sharing a three bedroom house. A very very common set ul in most cities in the UK.

And from a poster that on other threads has suggested we need to understand that white people all have different views. A courtesy that only extends to some skin colours. But she’s not racist… (oh sorry — to indicate a long pause in my thought process).

I agree. And to declare that openly is racist.

It's scary we're in a situation now where some people feel they can openly declare a nationality or a culture to be a 'risk factor'. I wish I could send you back to the 1940s.

None of that makes nationality a risk factor. And ‘working in a diverse number of roles’ doesn’t say anything about the people you’ve worked with or what you’ve come to know about them. Did you mean to say you’ve worked with a lot of nationalities?

Which is an uncommon way to write in English and is very common in AI. That particular post also had a number of other common AI markers. You’re not the first to copy and paste an answer and won’t be the last.

Are you actually joking. You want me to explain how I get a long line in something I write? To signify a long pause in my thought processes? Really? Sigh… its literally 2 dashes without a space. Does that quench your curiosity?

A nationality represents a group of people that can share a similar outlook. It is present in nationalities all over the world, from existential thinking to whats considered polite. It would also include thoughts and behaviours towards a particular sex. I have worked in a diverse number of roles and I have seen first hand how entrenched attitudes can be in a particular nationality, so much so that specific support groups and advocacy has to be set up to help the victims within these groups because they are silenced and controlled by their own nationality. To not establish specific support groups that catered for different nationalities would mean that the very people we are trying to help would become unreachable.

I don’t think people are ‘scum’ because they’re addicts, no. Addiction is pretty grim for everyone but i can distinguish the behaviour from the person and don’t see the need to dehumanise people.

I've been in the situation of LIVING in HMOs for twenty years, because until I was in my mid-forties I couldn't afford to do otherwise. And I'm as respectable, law-abiding, quiet, clean and all the rest as you are.

@Allisnotlost1you seriously don’t consider people who are constantly pissed and drugged up, shouting, fighting and pissing in the garden scum??
because I do because they are!!

If you can tell me where the em dash is on the keyboard I’ll believe you wrote it. We all use AI to help with stuff but if you’ve used it so much you can’t formulate a post about your own views then maybe you…don’t really know what you think?

How are there 6 men living next door already if it's yet to be extended and turned into an HMO by a property developer?

Its just bedsits for people to live in and you need to pack it in with the hysteria.

This sounds great - can you point me to where the government are offering this, I’d like to sign up.

You haven’t mentioned any ‘risk factors’ - a nationality isn’t a risk factor.

Or it might be earmarked for asylum seekers.
Government are offering landlords guaranteed rent to house people coming over.

They get their full rent paid the government they don't have to worry about non payers. Win win for the landlords.

What is it that makes them ‘scum of the earth’?

Hopeful thinking. I would love to believe this, but the risk factors as I've mentioned previously are so great that for these men to want this would warrant a massive shift in thoughts and behaviours. Even if this was possible, it would require a solid support plan for these men which is simply not there.

I'm not even going to engage with this assertion.

CSO? CSA maybe?

When it comes to “time spent thinking about paedophiles or unvetted men in HMOs,” I can’t put a number on it — but the bottom line is that certain men are statistically more likely to pose a risk.
For example, men with a history of violence, especially towards women or a sense of entitlement or belief in having “rights” over women, substance abuse issues, having a criminal background and many more. These are all red flags, and yes, they trigger concern when a pattern is detected.

The difficulty is that, in some cases, the men in question come from cultures where women are treated poorly. This means that the safety instincts we’ve developed in our own environments can end up being reframed or dismissed through a racial or cultural lens.

That shift in framing often reduces empathy for why some people — especially women — feel vulnerable when such men move into our communities, and particularly near our homes. Our homes should be the one place where we feel safe.

Does it occur to you that maybe those men risking their lives to come here - illegally, because there are no legal routes - might also want better lives for themselves, their sisters, mothers and daughters? People are leaving those regimes because it’s not safe to live under them. Why assume that they are the problem, rather than running away from the problem?

Just say it. This is about the boat people.

HMO residents does not mean "bad". I know men in their 60s who live in them.
The real AIBU is that people have to live in them to start with because having their own place with their own space is out of reach on a normal wage.

Just out of interest, if these are your real views why did you use AI to write your post?

Why does every bloody thread on here almost always turn into some kind of dig at men from certain countries. The racism in society these days is getting out of hand.

A shared house doesn't have to be with strangers. I've lived in them with friends. It's usually a fun part of young adulthood. Nothing to be hysterical about