Please or to access all these features

AIBU?

Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

Spelling Bee should have been compulsory

83 replies

Ontheedgeofit · 22/08/2025 09:26

Just a little light hearted post to seek out fellow spelling nerds…

I have been scrolling through a second hand clothing / preloved items app and the number of times somebody has explained that an item has sequence and not sequins is mind blowing.

Such a lovely blue sequenced dress…. 😳🤣

Any other favourites?

PS I’ve had to double check my own post for any faults of my own 😂😂😂 but besides for my iPhone auto correcting favourites to favorites, I think I’m safe!

OP posts:
SpanThatWorld · 22/08/2025 11:41

Ontheedgeofit · 22/08/2025 11:40

Another good point but do schools mark down work if something is spelt incorrectly? This was certainly the case when I was at school but not so sure this happens anymore.

Yes they do. Absolutely they do.

SpanThatWorld · 22/08/2025 11:40

Ontheedgeofit · 22/08/2025 11:36

Is using a homophone interchangeably a result of dyslexia?

Confusion of homophones is a key indicator of dyslexia.

Ontheedgeofit · 22/08/2025 11:40

SpanThatWorld · 22/08/2025 11:38

Schools do teach spelling
In fact, they probably teach it far more than they did when I was in school. And we need to remember that in the 1970s there was a huge national literacy campaign because so many people had significant literacy issues.

It is not, however, valued by anyone else.

Pre social media, lots of people used written language relatively rarely. Lots of manual jobs, factories, retail etc didn't people to write so literacy levels overall were always low. I look at the FB posts of my wrinkly relatives and my jaw drops. It's just become more obvious as we communicate with the outside world in print.

Another good point but do schools mark down work if something is spelt incorrectly? This was certainly the case when I was at school but not so sure this happens anymore.

OP posts:
SpanThatWorld · 22/08/2025 11:38

Ontheedgeofit · 22/08/2025 10:52

I’m just being kind. I love winning!

And it would only be fair if it was an actual competition. I don’t think schools teach spelling like they used to or value it as much so to put all kids up on stage would be very unfair. If it was something that was taught and necessary to test then by all means let’s do it!

Edited

Schools do teach spelling
In fact, they probably teach it far more than they did when I was in school. And we need to remember that in the 1970s there was a huge national literacy campaign because so many people had significant literacy issues.

It is not, however, valued by anyone else.

Pre social media, lots of people used written language relatively rarely. Lots of manual jobs, factories, retail etc didn't people to write so literacy levels overall were always low. I look at the FB posts of my wrinkly relatives and my jaw drops. It's just become more obvious as we communicate with the outside world in print.

Ontheedgeofit · 22/08/2025 11:36

LuckysDadsHat · 22/08/2025 11:34

Aloud and allowed used interchangeably is what I see a lot of online.

I am now so much more tolerant as I have experience of a child with dyslexia and she struggles so much with spellings. And I just assume these people may have dyslexia.

Is using a homophone interchangeably a result of dyslexia?

OP posts:
LuckysDadsHat · 22/08/2025 11:34

Aloud and allowed used interchangeably is what I see a lot of online.

I am now so much more tolerant as I have experience of a child with dyslexia and she struggles so much with spellings. And I just assume these people may have dyslexia.

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 22/08/2025 11:31

Ontheedgeofit · 22/08/2025 11:28

Is it

My partner and I
or
Me and my partner

Love learning, so genuine question. I would say it’s the first option but your post has made me doubt my knowledge.

Edited

If it's a sentence opener then it's "My partner and I".

The way to tell is by removing the other person and working out whether you'd say "me" or "I". You wouldn't start a sentence with "me".

Ontheedgeofit · 22/08/2025 11:28

SpanThatWorld · 22/08/2025 11:25

People misuse pronouns in all sorts of strange ways. I think it's because English has so few inflections and nouns don't have different cases, they don't have an understanding of the way that pronouns work.

I: nominative
Me: accusative
Myself: reflexive

"Myself" is used in all kinds of inappropriate places because "it sounds better" (according to my old boss). I once refused to send a letter out over my name because he insisted that I use "myself" rather than "me" ("Please contact myself"). The only time it's appropriate is when talking about one person/thing acting upon itself. (I wash myself. You embarrassed yourself. He got himself out of a tight spot).

The number of posts on here that start "Myself and my partner..."

Is it

My partner and I
or
Me and my partner

Love learning, so genuine question. I would say it’s the first option but your post has made me doubt my knowledge.

OP posts:
SpanThatWorld · 22/08/2025 11:25

NannyR · 22/08/2025 10:14

I'm not a grammar expert but I thought that there were times when "me and my friend" was correct, for example "Sophie invited me and my friend to tea"

People misuse pronouns in all sorts of strange ways. I think it's because English has so few inflections and nouns don't have different cases, they don't have an understanding of the way that pronouns work.

I: nominative
Me: accusative
Myself: reflexive

"Myself" is used in all kinds of inappropriate places because "it sounds better" (according to my old boss). I once refused to send a letter out over my name because he insisted that I use "myself" rather than "me" ("Please contact myself"). The only time it's appropriate is when talking about one person/thing acting upon itself. (I wash myself. You embarrassed yourself. He got himself out of a tight spot).

The number of posts on here that start "Myself and my partner..."

tartyflette · 22/08/2025 11:23

We used to have spelling tests at primary school many years ago but they were written, i.e. the teacher would say 'spell favourite' and you'd write it down. No humiliation involved.
It would usually be 10 words, written on paper, collected and then marked. If you got some wrong you'd be tested on those ones again.
But I was an avid reader as a child and started reading adult books quite young, (eg Neville Shute) which definitely helped with spelling.

Ontheedgeofit · 22/08/2025 11:12

flossydog · 22/08/2025 11:03

Absolutely! I've had to write for an American audience for my work so much lately, its made my British spelling worse. Differences like defence vs defense keep tripping me up.

I actually just wrote in a previous post… In my defence and then deleted it because I was not sure.

OP posts:
Ontheedgeofit · 22/08/2025 11:09

VimesandhisCardboardBoots · 22/08/2025 11:03

I think it comes down to how much you read really.

I've always been an absolutely massive reader. I'll generally get through a book a week, and that's down from probably two a week when I was a kid.

DP on the other hand just does not read for pleasure. She's not dyslexic or anything, she doesn't struggle to read at all, she just doesn't enjoy it and would rather spend her free time making something clever with her hands instead. She does however listen to a lot of podcasts, audio plays etc,

As a result, she's just got far less exposure to the written word, whereas I have far less exposure to the spoken word. She regularly has to ask me how to spell something, whereas I'm far more likely to require help with the pronunciation of something.

To give an example from last week. I mentioned something that had happened in Arkansas, and she promptly fell around laughing at my pronunciation, asking why on earth I was sticking an s on the end of it. I googled it and pointed out the ruddy great s on the end of it. She of course was right about the pronunciation, but had no idea how it was spelt, whereas I was the other way round.

Yes good point!

I avoid saying a word if I am absolutely not sure! I can understand a little of our other languages here but I am not confident enough to actually speak them as I’m sure I would absolutely murder them.

OP posts:
Ontheedgeofit · 22/08/2025 11:06

BoredZelda · 22/08/2025 11:01

Yes, feeling superior because you had better access to eduction and a family who were able to help you with it, or didn’t have to cope with dyslexia is a bit of a weird flex.

It is strange isn’t it. I think there are a number of people (particularly here on MN where the communication is the written word) will see a post with poor spelling or grammar and will either make an assumption on the social class of the person or that English isn’t their first language and they are therefore an immigrant.

I’m not sure using sequence instead of sequin can be put down to either dyslexia or English being a second language especially if sequence has been spelt correctly. But I’m no expert so I stand to be corrected.

OP posts:
flossydog · 22/08/2025 11:03

Ontheedgeofit · 22/08/2025 10:51

And the American spelling also causes confusion.

I am not in the UK so the confusion here is even worse and the more American words are infiltrating our language (via iPhone autocorrect for example) and so now we have two spellings both potentially correct.

favorite vs favourite
color vs colour

Absolutely! I've had to write for an American audience for my work so much lately, its made my British spelling worse. Differences like defence vs defense keep tripping me up.

VimesandhisCardboardBoots · 22/08/2025 11:03

Ontheedgeofit · 22/08/2025 10:21

Spelling is probably the wrong word in this context.

It is strange how our brains work and are wired differently. I think I recognise words and their correct placement in a specific context, spelling is more phonetic and sounding out the different parts that make up a word.

I just know the difference between stationery and stationary. My DH wouldn’t. They sound the same, mean different things and are spelt very slightly different. This is more knowledge than spelling.

I think it comes down to how much you read really.

I've always been an absolutely massive reader. I'll generally get through a book a week, and that's down from probably two a week when I was a kid.

DP on the other hand just does not read for pleasure. She's not dyslexic or anything, she doesn't struggle to read at all, she just doesn't enjoy it and would rather spend her free time making something clever with her hands instead. She does however listen to a lot of podcasts, audio plays etc,

As a result, she's just got far less exposure to the written word, whereas I have far less exposure to the spoken word. She regularly has to ask me how to spell something, whereas I'm far more likely to require help with the pronunciation of something.

To give an example from last week. I mentioned something that had happened in Arkansas, and she promptly fell around laughing at my pronunciation, asking why on earth I was sticking an s on the end of it. I googled it and pointed out the ruddy great s on the end of it. She of course was right about the pronunciation, but had no idea how it was spelt, whereas I was the other way round.

BoredZelda · 22/08/2025 11:01

Aspanielstolemysanity · 22/08/2025 10:27

I used to think I was superior because I found spelling easy.

But DD is very bright and very dyslexic and I have realised how grotesque it is to look down on people because they struggle with spelling. Her vocabulary is amazing, her understanding of the world and her drive is amazing. And she feels so embarrassed as she knows she will be judged on her spellings

Yes, feeling superior because you had better access to eduction and a family who were able to help you with it, or didn’t have to cope with dyslexia is a bit of a weird flex.

Ontheedgeofit · 22/08/2025 10:57

theresapossuminthekitchen · 22/08/2025 10:55

It’s not really about spelling, is it. (I also have always found spelling easy but have a son who just can’t seem to do it, despite reading a lot and being able to get 10/10 on spelling tests!) It’s mixing up similar words or ising words that have been misheard/not seen written down (or only seen written down on e.g. social media rather than in books, etc.).

Some others I’ve read on here quite often:
It was defiantly (definitely) the red one she wanted.
I just needed some restbite (respite) from them.
We love all of them accept (except) the pink ones.
I couldn’t be bothered to cue (queue) up for the coffee machine.

My husband asked me to spell queue for him a while back and he just looked at me like I was crazy
…. Why?!?

OP posts:
Avocadohoho · 22/08/2025 10:56

NannyR · 22/08/2025 10:14

I'm not a grammar expert but I thought that there were times when "me and my friend" was correct, for example "Sophie invited me and my friend to tea"

You’re correct! Sophie invited ‘me’ for tea. Sophie invited me and my friend for tea.

Only now everyone seems to write myself and yourself, which I hate and makes no sense.

theresapossuminthekitchen · 22/08/2025 10:55

It’s not really about spelling, is it. (I also have always found spelling easy but have a son who just can’t seem to do it, despite reading a lot and being able to get 10/10 on spelling tests!) It’s mixing up similar words or ising words that have been misheard/not seen written down (or only seen written down on e.g. social media rather than in books, etc.).

Some others I’ve read on here quite often:
It was defiantly (definitely) the red one she wanted.
I just needed some restbite (respite) from them.
We love all of them accept (except) the pink ones.
I couldn’t be bothered to cue (queue) up for the coffee machine.

vix3rd · 22/08/2025 10:54

Aw sequinces annoy me.
But so does "Anyone got a set of draws they're giving away ?"

I once, drunk, made a comment about sequinces on a FB selling post. It did not go down well.

Ontheedgeofit · 22/08/2025 10:52

CyanDreamer · 22/08/2025 10:51

I really don’t believe that any child should be subjected to any sort of humiliation in front of a group of people

why does everything has to be reduced to be "humiliating"? It's a life skill. Sometimes you are not the best, either you need to try harder or you concentrate on something else.

Can you imagine if every sportsperson threw a tantrum everytime they are "humiliated' because they didn't win a race? That would be the end of sport.

The lack of resilience for completely non-embarrassing and random even is depressing.

I’m just being kind. I love winning!

And it would only be fair if it was an actual competition. I don’t think schools teach spelling like they used to or value it as much so to put all kids up on stage would be very unfair. If it was something that was taught and necessary to test then by all means let’s do it!

OP posts:
CyanDreamer · 22/08/2025 10:51

I really don’t believe that any child should be subjected to any sort of humiliation in front of a group of people

why does everything has to be reduced to be "humiliating"? It's a life skill. Sometimes you are not the best, either you need to try harder or you concentrate on something else.

Can you imagine if every sportsperson threw a tantrum everytime they are "humiliated' because they didn't win a race? That would be the end of sport.

The lack of resilience for completely non-embarrassing and random even is depressing.

Ontheedgeofit · 22/08/2025 10:51

flossydog · 22/08/2025 10:44

The English language doesn't alway make this easy!

"Bureaucracy" always used to give me problems, and words like "diarrhoea" and "rhythm" look like they were put together from throwing darts at an optician's wall chart.

And the American spelling also causes confusion.

I am not in the UK so the confusion here is even worse and the more American words are infiltrating our language (via iPhone autocorrect for example) and so now we have two spellings both potentially correct.

favorite vs favourite
color vs colour

OP posts:
Catsandcannedbeans · 22/08/2025 10:51

@Ontheedgeofit Very true. Schools should definitely focus on it more. I remember I was impressed on my first date with DH because he could spell “arachnid”.

flossydog · 22/08/2025 10:44

The English language doesn't alway make this easy!

"Bureaucracy" always used to give me problems, and words like "diarrhoea" and "rhythm" look like they were put together from throwing darts at an optician's wall chart.