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Is it a con or can it help my sick child?

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Nightswimminginoldpants · 21/08/2025 23:11

Homeopathy?

Feeling a bit vulnerable at the moment, so not sure if it’s clouding my view.

Dd is ill and I’m getting desperate. Have been talking to a homeopathist online, she is very intent that homeopathy will help my Dd get better.

Does it work?

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housethatbuiltme · 22/08/2025 19:16

Fleur405 · 22/08/2025 10:40

You are thinking of herbal medicine. I for example used some “self heal” from the garden to treat my daughter’s grazed knee yesterday because it has antiseptic and anti inflammatory properties. Many plant compounds form the basis of conventional medicines.

Homeothapy is based on some medieval hocus pocus and is literally the practice of selling WATER in sugar tablets with some silly notion that the water has memory. It cannot work beyond a placebo effect because it does not contain anything.

I mean it is used as an option by the NHS. While they have reduced funding its still an option they offer some people.

Edit: apparently they have completely cut it now but it was an option for a long time.

LytesCarey · 22/08/2025 19:15

Sera1989 · 22/08/2025 10:42

Also licensed medicines have been produced to have a specific amount of active ingredient and are tested to ensure nothing harmful is used in the filler. I saw a urologist for a few years and he told me he’d seen lots and lots of young women with kidney problems from taking herbal remedies. Obviously not all are dangerous or contaminated, but I would spend more to buy from a reputable brand and I wouldn’t buy or accept accept anything that isn’t in original or labelled packaging (I once went to a Chinese herbalist who gave me some liquid in a brown unlabelled bottle and I was just supposed to trust that it was medicine). I was vulnerable and desperate for a cure which never came, now I’m very sceptical of quackery

What does this sorry tale have to do with homeopathy? Absolutely nothing, just blatant scaremongering. Homeopathic remedies though effective when given appropriately to a patient, are absolutely safe to anyone.

Bobbingtons · 22/08/2025 19:14

If homeopathy worked then swimming in the sea would cure all illnesses as it contains about the same substance concentrations of almost every chemical on earth.
You are as likely to be cured by homeopathic remedies as you are too be poisoned by chemtrails......

LytesCarey · 22/08/2025 19:06

toadinthebucket · 22/08/2025 10:21

This suggests you don't know what homeopathy is. So please tell us what you believe it to be ans which illnesses it "cured".

I know exactly what it is, which seems unusual on here - with people spouting on as though to show about logical and and science-based they are, though they seem very ignorant about it. I understand up to a point why people react like this (needing to "prove" how rational they are, going with the herd rather than keeping an open mind), but we do not know everything yet. Perhaps the effectiveness of extremely small dilutions will be understood one day. Quantum physics might point the way.

I have used it over many years on and off as needed. It was hugely effective as I said earlier in the thread in treating a serious thyroid problem and my mother's tinnitus which doctors had told her she would just have to "learn to live with". I have also been treated for more minor though troubling issues.

To those who say it is not effective for animals, I know of several dogs that have been successfully treated, and also of a whole herd of cows troubled by mastitis being cured with a remedy put into their drinking water trough. No placebo effect possible there!

LillyPJ · 22/08/2025 19:00

LytesCarey · 22/08/2025 18:38

What trials? Please reference what you are saying here.

I'm saying that homeopathy has never been shown to work when it's been tested under proper conditions - the sort of trials that real medicines have to undergo before they are allowed to be sold as medicines. It will be big news if homeopathy ever passes those sorts of tests but I won't hold my breath.

Didimum · 22/08/2025 18:56

Nopenott0day · 22/08/2025 18:44

It's not an alternative medicine. It is alternative to medicine.

It's widely called 'alternative medicine', by NHS, John Hopkins, National Cancer Institute, Mind ... I could go on.

BusWankers · 22/08/2025 18:51

LytesCarey · 22/08/2025 18:38

What trials? Please reference what you are saying here.

Feel free to reference the trials that prove it works in the meantime...

BusWankers · 22/08/2025 18:50

LytesCarey · 22/08/2025 18:25

This is factually completely wrong about the water and Arnica cream..why say this if you don't know what you are talking about? However you are correct that herbal medicine and homeopathy are very different.
I can't get over the ignorance and frankly the closed minds shown on this thread. Its as though everyone is falling over themselves to prove that they are on the same anti-bandwagon though they don't know anything about ithe subject.

Well, what is it about homeopathy that works?

How does that small vial of water that contains roughly 1 molecule in every 2 litres... Even work?

Please enlighten us.

Nopenott0day · 22/08/2025 18:44

Didimum · 22/08/2025 00:24

The effectiveness of Homeopathy, which is an alternative medicine.

It's not an alternative medicine. It is alternative to medicine.

EyeLevelStick · 22/08/2025 18:40

LytesCarey · 22/08/2025 18:25

This is factually completely wrong about the water and Arnica cream..why say this if you don't know what you are talking about? However you are correct that herbal medicine and homeopathy are very different.
I can't get over the ignorance and frankly the closed minds shown on this thread. Its as though everyone is falling over themselves to prove that they are on the same anti-bandwagon though they don't know anything about ithe subject.

Homeopathy is just water. Or sugar tablets. What makes you think you know more than I do?

G5000 · 22/08/2025 18:39

Some of us have openmindedly taken a look at the evidence that shows homeopathy does not work and cannot work, as the claims how it is supposed to work are nonsensical. Persisting in a belief despite overwhelming evidence to the contrary would be close-minded.

LytesCarey · 22/08/2025 18:38

LillyPJ · 22/08/2025 18:36

I can't believe the people willing to believe something that has failed to prove its efficacy in any properly conducted trials.

What trials? Please reference what you are saying here.

LillyPJ · 22/08/2025 18:36

LytesCarey · 22/08/2025 18:25

This is factually completely wrong about the water and Arnica cream..why say this if you don't know what you are talking about? However you are correct that herbal medicine and homeopathy are very different.
I can't get over the ignorance and frankly the closed minds shown on this thread. Its as though everyone is falling over themselves to prove that they are on the same anti-bandwagon though they don't know anything about ithe subject.

I can't believe the people willing to believe something that has failed to prove its efficacy in any properly conducted trials.

LytesCarey · 22/08/2025 18:25

Namenamchange · 22/08/2025 10:07

Arnica cream would be a herbal remedy, homeopathy is water, Herbal and homeopathy are not the same thing.

This is factually completely wrong about the water and Arnica cream..why say this if you don't know what you are talking about? However you are correct that herbal medicine and homeopathy are very different.
I can't get over the ignorance and frankly the closed minds shown on this thread. Its as though everyone is falling over themselves to prove that they are on the same anti-bandwagon though they don't know anything about ithe subject.

Thoughtsforcoffee · 22/08/2025 17:55

flossydog · 22/08/2025 17:27

I'm always happy to learn and admit when I'm wrong. What was the blood test show? Strep? What treatment did the NHS offer?

What I'm seeing is people seeking this diagnosis for their kids based on online advice (you must have seen all the social media threads) and seeking out antibiotics which, if they're wrong, is harming the kid for no benefit.

I'm not saying kids don't have these symptoms, but that the suggested causation (a pocket of infection remaining in the system) is speculative and not proven, to my knowledge based on all I've read up on this.

It's a similar story to Chronic Lyme. My worry is that people are desperate for their kids and are acting on good intentions but end up doing stuff that can harm them in the long run. And you can see the snake-oil people are sold, with the homeopaths etc.

I’m not really on social media so don’t see a lot of the online stuff, but like you I’m happy to learn!
bloods showed high levels of strep titre which went down post treatment (along with so many of her symptoms). Onset was literally overnight. Seen initially in a&e, then gp, then neurology who diagnosed. Treatment has been antibiotics, steroids, and NSAIDs. Happy to answer anything else 😊

Hoppinggreen · 22/08/2025 17:34

My DD had asthma and eczma and we saw a Homeopath
She somehow got hold of the tablets we paid a fortune for and ate them all. We rushed her to A&E and phoned the Homeopath en route
Homeopath laughed and said that it wasn't a problem as there was nothing in them that she could OD on
Made me realise it was total bollocks

BusWankers · 22/08/2025 17:32

Alwaysinamood · 22/08/2025 12:48

It’s because it doesn’t make any money for big pharma that’s why

😂

flossydog · 22/08/2025 17:27

Thoughtsforcoffee · 22/08/2025 11:30

Pandas mum here and respectfully disagree. They are not diagnosed speculatively, but through symptoms and rigorous blood tests. My child was a “classic” case who changed overnight and is 95% back to baseline with treatment and her condition is recognised and treated on the NHS.

I'm always happy to learn and admit when I'm wrong. What was the blood test show? Strep? What treatment did the NHS offer?

What I'm seeing is people seeking this diagnosis for their kids based on online advice (you must have seen all the social media threads) and seeking out antibiotics which, if they're wrong, is harming the kid for no benefit.

I'm not saying kids don't have these symptoms, but that the suggested causation (a pocket of infection remaining in the system) is speculative and not proven, to my knowledge based on all I've read up on this.

It's a similar story to Chronic Lyme. My worry is that people are desperate for their kids and are acting on good intentions but end up doing stuff that can harm them in the long run. And you can see the snake-oil people are sold, with the homeopaths etc.

EyeLevelStick · 22/08/2025 17:16

Edit - hidden post is back.

EyeLevelStick · 22/08/2025 16:56

oldclock · 22/08/2025 14:28

Only those with the THR logo, which is a small proportion of the market.

My understanding is that herbal
medicines must have a THR (the logo is not obligatory) under the Human Medicines Regulations.

There will of course be “herbal food supplements” (or cosmetics) that fly under the radar, but many substances (e.g. St John’s Wort) cannot legally be sold except under a THR.

It’s all a bit of a Wild West, nevertheless. In the news last week there were “magnesium” gummies being sold as supplements for children that were found to contain melatonin.

cardibach · 22/08/2025 15:55

housethatbuiltme · 22/08/2025 08:27

It can sometime help alongside prescribed medicines, the thing is to know what it is, how it work, that its not dangerous and that it can be mixed with other things. Do NOT stop actual medical treatment in favor of untested options.

Homeopathy was the bases of modern medicine so none medical things can work. The thing is that you need to know its legit. Some things online claim to be 'natural cure' but are just crazy anti-medicine people suggesting really dangerous made up ideas.

As an example of a real 'non medical medicine': Take the thread the other day of the lady that treated her chin hair by changing her diet to eat Tofu. That is a legitimate thing as 'Soy' is a natural source of estrogen so if you eat enough often enough it will alter your hormone balance. It use to be very common 'home treatment' option for some infertile people who couldn't afford Clomid but without medical guidance you could also 'misbalance' your hormones in a different way.

What is it you are considering using?

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Homeopathy absolutely was not the basis of modern medicine. It was only invented in 1796.
You're thinking of herbal medicine.

CracklingFlames · 22/08/2025 15:47

Out of interest, what antibiotics have been tried? Before trying homeopathy, I'd look at an osteopath/reflexology/acupuncture. Also for B12 deficiency you often need injections. There's a very good group on Facebook I think called wake up b12 (or similar).

YouOKHun · 22/08/2025 15:43

@AlwaysinamoodIf homeopathy works why would evil Big Pharma decide not exploit its abilities? Surely they’d have been all over it decades ago and be making money from it now?

G5000 · 22/08/2025 15:25

It’s because it doesn’t make any money for big pharma that’s why

Homeopathy is a billion dollar industry, like big pharma, just without the science part.

DrNo007 · 22/08/2025 15:09

OnLockdown · 22/08/2025 12:12

Wow, you've linked to a film that you need to pay to watch. Thus proving the point that exponents of homeopathy are money grabbing charlatans.

In case you haven't noticed, we also pay for our NHS treatment, through our taxes. Why would any professional give their services for free after having trained for many years, bought specialist software etc.? Do you work and if yes, do you work for free? And would you trust any healthcare professional who treated you with no payment (and thus likely wasn't insured and had another job to pay the bills)? Paying a few pounds to see a film is bog standard on many streaming services, also in case you hadn't noticed. If you want healthcare for free, you have to wonder about your commitment to your own health.