To be shocked women still try to stop aging?

What if men treated all women well without connecting it to their youth/looks?

who said they don't?
But frankly, you don't chose who you find attractive or not. If you have the right to find a man attractive, or not, why can't they?

I don't find a man letting himself go remotely attractive, physically it's just a big no. So what?

it's that old joke about Botox, but it works for everything else.
When everybody else around you is doing it, you don't have Botox to look younger, you have it to look your age - because in comparaison you look way older without.

That's why people get irate. Which brings the question, when they are so happy and superior about being "natural", why do they care?

>You're happy you look 18 at 28?

Yes. 18 year olds are adults, and if I look 18 at 28, maybe I’ll look 30 at 40.

>What if men treated all women well without connecting it to their youth/looks?

What if? I think they always will, even if they don’t intend to. They’re just wired that way. Like I said, you can either take take advantage, or not.

I obviously see more given my job
But what i mean is dont assume.
I have so many different job types/ demographic that come to my clinic.
I still think a lot of people have it too. I'd have said more than the 7-9% but obviously my numbers are skewed.

I do always wonder why people get so irate about it all. I have botox and don't care if people don't. Neither would my clients.
Yet the other way around... crazy.

With respect, OP, you’re only 38. No doubt I felt the same then.

I was surprised at how depressed I feel when I realise that my skin has lost its elasticity. I wasn’t too bothered about going a bit grey and I’ve never really had wrinkles but my skin has unexpectedly bothered me. When your parents have died and the rest of the older generation are ill, dementia all over the place, and dying, and you realise you’re more than halfway through your life and what have you done or achieved.

And societally a lot of the burden of dealing with the older generation (as well as dealing with your own kids) falls on women.

So perhaps trying to perk yourself up with some nice skincare is hardly the worst thing. Of course it’s part of making money out of female insecurity. It’s not a feminist thing to do.

But I’ve actually quite liked making my skin look nicer (for me), wearing a wee bit of make up. It brings me some joy.

I buy loads of books as well. No doubt that’s a waste of money and publishing are simply milking women who want to escape from their lives through a book for a while, yes?

I’m quite pleased that we have so many options in this day and age to keep us looking young. I’ve been doing skin care since age 20 (creams, wearing sunscreen, micro needling with and without PRP, etc.) and trying to take good care of my health in general (stay hydrated, eat well, get enough sleep, etc.) and people think I still look about 18-20 eight, almost nine years later.

Whether we engage in anti-aging routines or not, youthful looking women are always going to be treated better by men, because that’s what men are attracted to, and that’s how they behave, subconsciously or consciously. Why not take advantage?

why do you need to ask, you know exactly what I meant 😂

You do realise a lot of women do these things because they are simply comparing themselves to other women, wanting to look good around other women and it's not always because they want random men to find them fuckable. Plenty women in loving respectful relationships still get tweakments, surgery etc.

Again, pick your side.

You have the luxury of choice. If you are happy with looking old, or older than you are, no one is stopping you. No one actually care or want you to do anything. Just don't resent and be bitter against others who do.

You are the one disgruntled about people making efforts to stay and look younger, and the best they possibly can. It does include exercise.

Bleach the asshole?
what a stupid comment.

Why are you so bitter about other people choices? Do you feel left out? Do you feel pressured? you realise you won't keep up until you do something?

You've never been to a hairdresser? Never had work on your teeth? Never wax your eyebrows? Never used make-up or fake tan in your life? Wore flattering clothes?

You are trying to tell us you have never given a thought about your appearance and done anything to improve it? Really?

I think the actual percentage of women who have botox/fillers is around 7-9%. So most don’t.

I think people who chose to stay "natural" resent those who love the cosmetic industry because it creates a gap.

When everyone around you look 10 or 15 years younger thanks to cosmetic procedure, then you look old. People don't like that.

If you smooth a few wrinkles, get rid of grey hair, whiten your teeth, firm your skin a bit, you look younger. A 60 year old will never look 20, but you can look like you are on the right side of 50, or like a very tired 60+ year old.. It's a choice.

The difference is that people who go all out to stop aging don't resent or care about others who don't.

Just saw about the most women don't have botox etc.

Something I stand by is most people would be amazed at the amount of people who do have botox. Men and women.
It has always been the most popular treatment I offer and I think it always will be.

I haven't read the whole thread
But I think you're right to a point, men also feel it but less intensely.

I do Aesthetics (medically trained) and i think there's been a massive uptick in men having Aesthetics treatments. I'd say my current patient range is 60% women 40% men.

And other than filler (which i think is a dying treatment anyway regardless of gender)
They have the same as women.

Yes, we have rights, including the one about our own appearance.

Even if men and women want to stay attractive, so what?
I love having great sex, damn right I want an attractive partner and want to stay attractive myself. What woman is attracted by men who let themselves go? 😂
last time I looked (first thing this morning) the gym was busy with women AND MEN - more men than women actually.

I also want to look great on photos with my kids.

I think everyone wants to be old and wrinkly

say what now?

Why on earth would ANYONE want to be old and wrinkly?