To be shocked women still try to stop aging?

I have fillers twice a year to stop me looking tired and depressed. It’s hyaluronic acid. It’s replacing the natural volume which has been lost. It is not dangerous!

I think people can have whatever treatments they want. They can do whatever they want with their own faces/bodies. I’m not irate, or even at all bothered about what other people do. I just personally don’t think it makes them look a) younger or b) better. If I did think it achieved those things, I’d have it done myself.
As it is I look after myself, I eat well, I drink plenty of water, I exercise, I use SPF 50 at all times. I think those things do help.

Calling women who have resisted the pressure to have fillers etc “special snowflakes” looks pretty contemptuous to me, @jillyiam!

On the one hand you are deploring the women who have work done/try to hold off ageing, and then at the same time, you sound pretty judgemental of women who haven’t had work done/don’t care about ageing.

Society judges women who age or who don’t ’keep their looks’ so much harder than they judge men who age. It is a horrible attitude, and I believe it is what forces women into feeling they must have fillers/wear make up/stay young. It is dreadful, but until this misogynistic attitude dies, women are going to feel pressured.

I wish I had an easy solution, but what it needs is for the majority of women to just say “fuck it, I’m not bowing to society’s pressure!” - and that is a really difficult thing to ask women to do, when they (possibly rightfully) feel their careers depend on them fitting in.

I think you misunderstood the poster. She was talking about a state of mind. You get all the botox you feel you need but it's sad that you feel that you need it in the first place.

No one is telling me or forcing me to do anything, I wear makeup because I want to, I suspect you are in your late 50s / 60s and find your dwindling looks hard to deal with, it would make you feel better if all women stopped looking after their appearance as then you feel you wouldn’t feel so bad

And yessss, I'm sure there are a bunch of special snowflakes here who always resisted. Gold star for you. Yet, there is a whole industry built on this so you're just outliers (but good job!!!!!!)

Wtf! So if I'm not into looking younger I'm then a snowflake? Fyi I'm 45 and rarely wear makeup, cut my hair twice a year, never had a manicure because I'm just not interested. I am interested in being healthy though so I exercice and try to eat healthy stuff (but not depriving myself because life is too short). Why do you think that botox/fillers/plastic surgery would be of any interest to me when I don't spend much time on my looks in the first place?

If you don’t GAF how others treat you, there’s just no advantage to putting in effort to look younger, unless it raises your self esteem… I don’t spend enough of my life looking in the mirror to do it for any other reason than I’ve stated.

I’m not saying it’s right or wrong for people to engage in lookism. I’m just saying they do, and probably always will. You can get angry about it, or you can take advantage, or you can do nothing. It’s completely up to you.

What's going to happen when you age (albeit later than the hags like me)?

Is your life over then?

What happens if you DGAF about being treated nicely by men?

Is that all you're doing it for? So men will treat you nicely?

What happens when eventually even the tweaked, injected, dyed, made up previously pretty girl ages? Is it OK for men to treat you like shit then?

Or maybe, just maybe, we should hold men responsible for treating everyone with respect, and not because they hope to fuck us? If you go along with the 'must look pretty for men' game, you're implying women are only worth treating well if they attractive. And that is always going to be a temporary thing because everyone ages.

Is it bad that I see people I knew in school who were jerks and feel smug that they aged much worse/more quickly than I did?

why do you think people want to stay and look younger 😂
of course some of us fully intend on enjoying existing after 50, I don't want to stop having a great sex life the day I turn 50, thanks!

I don't know, I can think "wow" just as much as I can think "oh god what happened" when I see people my age. The general look matters a lot, being slim or not, choice of clothes, haircut, teeth and so on, but yes, some people do look A LOT older than others.

I have seen people younger than me looking a lot worst too, which is a bit sad.

By definition I know their age, so they can't change that.

If that's what you think you've read, read again. I said before 50 you have more life ahead than behind, which is generally regarded as a positive because you have better health, more opportunities and more time to enjoy continuing to exist.

Don’t be so dramatic. That’s not what they said at all

I think that’s such a good point - we don’t appreciate it when we have it. And that’s kind of annoying!

Of course not. That’s so clearly not what she’s saying.

But you are going to exist for a lot less time once you’re over 50, aren’t you? My dad didn’t even make it to retirement before dropping down dead at 63.

Does anyone actually believe they look older than people they went to school with? In real life, I mean, not photos. I work with enough people around my age to realise that yeah, give or take, we all look mid 40s. But I see them every day. If I see someone I haven't seen for years, I think :bloody hell, they've aged. I'm doing well. But they probably go home and think the same about me.

If anyone says i don't seem my age, it's usually because they're younger than me and have a view in their heads of what my age is. I know lots of 80 yr old. They don't seem 80. But that's because 80 is still my 10yr old's view of 80. They're certainly dying off like 80 yr olds.

Come now. Its a common enough expression. There are two positions (or sides, if you will) that one can be in (on) with regards to a given age. Younger than or older than. Younger than has for pretty much always been referred to as the 'right' side. For both men and woman, on account of having more life ahead of you than behind you, is generally regarded as a positive. For health, for opportunities, to continue to enjoy existing.

Im on holiday in a hot sunny place, the youngsters all look amazing with their youth. I want that as I didn't appreciate it first time round!!!

Let people life as they want to. I want to age as slowly as is possible.

I don't think people can be "delusional" about other people. If you think a friend or someone you know looks great, it's genuine. How can you be delusional?

I can't think of a single person I know who looks 15 years younger in my age group 50-55

I can think of a few women who look barely 30 when they are in their 40s, and it goes up. People are actually shocked when they realise how old their oldest children are, because they do look younger.

Of course it's a thing.
All the younger women having all this botox/ filler don't look younger either

I love when people say that. You assume what people's age are, but you don't know the age of a complete stranger.

I can't think of a single person I know who looks 15 years younger in my age group 50-55
You know their age, so you can decide they look their age and that's that. If they were complete stranger, and had a bit of work done, you wouldn't know.

Or you would think they don't look so tired, or just they look better . Who cares.

No one is saying that Kate Middleton looks "odd", she has the perfect amount of work in the most subtle way.

No I'm definitely sensing irate not baffled from a lot of the posts.

Ps no-one is "irate"
Just baffled at the delusional!

They don't look younger though they look odd.
I can't think of a single person I know who looks 15 years younger in my age group 50-55
You are talking about a 55 year looking 40 which is ludicrous
All the younger women having all this botox/ filler don't look younger either -we are now seeing late 30s having face lifts because of sagging.

It's all a huge con
Ps 55ish, well groomed , happily married, SPF, zero alcohol ,exercise,eat well , feel great and am told I look good before you start going on about how miserable I am!