To be shocked women still try to stop aging?

Exactly. Finding a slightly more youthful appearance as opposed to old age attractive is just natural. We are not designed to find old age attractive. A lot of it comes down to survival of the species - to find someone who is able to reproduce attractive.

It doesnt mean you are ugly when old, just that it's not as desirable.

I also wonder how many people trying to pretend to look young through procedures are actually doing the groundwork- healthy eating; exercise (real exercise, not sitting on a machine in a gym for a bit, chatting to mates); keeping their minds agile. No one gives a shit what you look like when your body starts letting you down. But I guess you only start to think of that as you get older. Bit like pensions.

What I’m confused about is who are you (not you directly, but people) trying to impress.

My pond is 50+ women and men. If I want to take a fancy to someone in my pond, he’s going to be 50-60. I’m not out to bag a 30 year old. Also my friends are around my age, so if I want to stand out, they are the benchmark. I don’t need to look 30. I just need to be a fine aged wine.

I don’t need to “look young” as that’s not my grazing ground.

I often think there must be something narcissistic about people who think everyone’s looking at them and they are in a competition. One of my relatives is like this. She’s 50, gets loads of Botox and fillers (I mentioned her earlier) and she says things like “I need to look my best at Xxxx’s wedding as everyone will be looking at me, and wondering what I’m doing”.

No one cares.

Having been considered attractive in my younger days, ageing is hard. I know that I am still attractive to my husband and to a diminishingl number of other men. I recognise the harms that the strive for an impossible instagram aesthetic is harming women of all ages, so not having Botox or fillers is my way of fighting back for women. It’s a hard and lonely battle - a huge part of me wants the face lift and fillers. Then I see how those look after a few years and remind myself of the long term prize which is to be 90 with flawless skin!

Another saying that I believe was, everything you do in this decade you will see in the next.

Moisturise, spf, hydration, serums, hats in the sun.

I drank and had a few fags, but you can't see it in my 60's because I was religious with skin care.

Inexpensive skincare. I swear by lidl/ aldi ranges.

I’ve seen beautiful and elegant women in their 50s and 60s. They of course do things like Pilates, Botox, maybe some light surgery, hair coloring, teeth whitening, GLP-1 agonists and other injectables.

Do they look 20? Of course not. But they look very good for their age.

You aren’t going to convince people that aging looks good, aging is actually a dysfunction of the body. Just because it’s natural doesn’t make it a good thing. Death is natural, I hardly think it’s a good thing!

You just aren’t going to convince people that looking geriatric is pleasing to the eye. Because we have eyes and can judge these things for ourselves. Just get over it, you’ll not invert what people find beautiful.

When people draw a still life, do they paint a shriveled, rotten apple? Generally no, unless they want to make a statement about mortality.

Howling at the idea that you think you can control ageing -the ultimate Narc mindset.
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It's a biological process

I think we all know what these " I will never grow old or worse-ugly" women are going to be like in their 50s and 60s
Absolutely raging, toxic and bitter when they realise they have been conned and it doesn't work.
Even worse all this stuff has distorted their features so they look off, not younger, just very wierd.

Self hatred is a terrible thing, so sad

Who is Halo?

But are you suggesting that taking care of yourself means having Botox/fillers etc? I have always taken care of myself. I am clean, I eat healthily, I drink plenty of water, I exercise, I wear SPF 50 whenever I leave the house, I look after my oral hygiene. I don’t smoke, drink much alcohol, take drugs etc. Do you think I ‘owe’ my DH more than that?
He seems to be very happy with how I look.

I sometimes get filler, has the person doing your filler ever went over all the risks? Mine does and the one very small possibility which always plays on my mind is the very very small chance of permanent blindness. It's a tiny percentage chance but it's there. So it's not risk free.

I honestly don’t know the point of such threads. People just trying to convince the rest of us that ‘feminism’ means we should just accept the aging process—or even worse, ugliness.

Sorry I intend to look as young as possible, because I like aesthetic things. I also keep my home looking beautiful, because I like beautiful things. I wear beautiful clothes, because I enjoy wearing beautiful things.

If you can’t do these things, it’s fine, we can understand there are circumstances beyond individual control. But that which I can control? You better believe I’m going to do something!!

That’s a good point!

I’m married to someone 25 years my senior, and while I don’t think he’d leave me for anyone younger, it doesn’t hurt to look after my appearance. I won’t look this way forever, but I can do my best. He certainly does the same for me.

I think it's a lack of respect for your partner not to take care of yourself. It goes both ways, I expect mine to care enough for me to keep some standards and to make an effort. So I do the same.

Even if I was single, I would still want to look good, and why not?

For me, im not interested in Botox or fillers etc. it's not for me

i do care about my skin. I've got problematic skin so I look after it so it doesn't flair/get too dried out.

i dye my hair because I prefer it. I have long hair (and am older) again because I prefer it.

i take supplements. They are for other things, but have added benefits of being good for hair and skin.

it really doesn't have to be either extreme.

Yes I agree with SPF (unfortunately I discovered it a little too late ) although do wear it everyday now. I was victim of a very bad boozy/faggy youth culture 🚬😬: I no longer do either : but I reckon my skin won't lie about those days in a few years !!

I think most people of both sexes would rather look younger; to look old is a reminder that you’re closer to your inevitable death.

Sailing is brutal though. You need that spf moisturiser and hat.

I want to look well for me. I look after myself, diet, sport, skin, for me.

My mum was a natural blond but she slapped on those moisturisers religiously, including her decolletage.

Her skin upon her death at 87 was frankly incredible.

Right, that’s why I said you can choose to do nothing

There is another option. Not caring what men who are controlled by their hormones think. Regardless of how aged and ugly or young and beautiful we are.

We're not here just for their visual consumption.

Crabbed Age and Youth
Cannot live together:
Youth is full of pleasance,
Age is full of care;
Youth like summer morn,
Age like winter weather;
Youth like summer brave,
Age like winter bare:
Youth is full of sports,
Age's breath is short,
Youth is nimble, Age is lame:
Youth is hot and bold,
Age is weak and cold,
Youth is wild, and Age is tame:-
Age, I do abhor thee;
Youth, I do adore thee.

There's nothing new about despising age! Wm Shakespeare wasn't prey to misogyny, but he still wasn't keen on getting old. He didn't, either - 52 was getting on a bit in his era, but evidently some did survive to be crabbed and careworn.

we age every day, who's pretending otherwise.

We can make it as painless and as slow as we possibly can. No one is deluded enough to think they look 20 or 30 forever (sadly).

I am not a hamster, yellow teeth are not a good look on me, I keep whitening mine until the last possible minute, and yes I look better for it. It's our current fashion, but I live in this world, so I follow it!