To be shocked women still try to stop aging?

The crazy thing is - you CAN help your skin etc look its best
....
It's cheap as chips.

Shade in the middle of the day

Drink loads of water

Wash with a bar of soap

Eat healthily

Maybe an inexpensive moisturiser if you get dry skin.

I agree with you.

Unfortunately it's making a lot of people very rich indeed. Very rich.

Sadly people are falling for the propaganda.

You've only got to look at Katie price, no matter how many face lifts and procedures she has, you can still tell her age, and her face eventually sags again after some months. It's not permanent.

It's not just surgery though. It's creams, potions, lotions, make up "essentials", beauty treatments. I'm afraid it's a mugs game.

Yeah i dont get it.

I don't do any of it. I've got a few greys, natural eyebrows & lips, fuck all makeup, and no botox/fillers and so help me god i swear i don't look worse than the people spending hundreds every month on it all.

Different yes but not really older even.

DH doesn't seem to mind

And yessss, I'm sure there are a bunch of special snowflakes here who always resisted. Gold star for you. Yet, there is a whole industry built on this so you're just outliers (but good job!!!!!!)

Shame, it could've been a good discussion but you let yourself down with this childish nonsense.

Surgery and tweakments only work in the short term. Long term, they leave the individual looking either weird or just not like themselves.

I'm not necessarily averse to them for others although would never want them myself. I can't see the point of poking, prodding and messing around with the outside of my body when the inside is ageing at the usual rate.

I haven't got the energy of a 30 year old so why would I want to look like one? I know we live in a youth obsessed, sexist culture, but as individuals, as we age, surely we develop our own perspectives on these issues? I thought one of the positives of ageing was gaining wisdom.

You’re shocked that women are trying to look their best, it’s been that way since time began, nothing is ever going to change

I’m trying to hold back the clock (a bit) but I’m doing it for myself not for anybody else,

Ageism is a thing. That's why people, especially women, try to look younger. Especially relevant in these days when experience counts for very little and we live in a world of style over content. Being and looking older means you are more likely to be managed out of your job so that they can employ youngsters with no experience at half the wages, more likely not to find a job, or at least find it harder if you are 40+, let alone 60+.
Age and wisdom are not respected any more. Looking younger gives you financial and societal advantages. It's not a happy thought , I wish it wasn't like that.

I'm not ashamed of aging I just prefer looking younger.
Nature encourages humans to mate with those in their prime.
Therefore aging will still be fought against regardless of the beauty industry.
Cleopatra bathed in asses milk, can't blame L'Oréal.

I don’t class myself as a ‘special snowflake’ in any way. I’m a very ordinary woman in my 40s. I have never had any Botox/fillers/facelifts, and I never intend to. I don’t think I’m an outlier, I don’t think most people can afford to have those treatments.
I agree entirely that there is no shame in getting older.

I don’t think resisting decline, however inevitable, means you’re some kind of vain and vapid woman without feminist ideals and overly influenced by industry.

Being youthful in appearance is also about being fit and being healthy. Your external appearance is often a mirror of your internal well-being. Yes, there are people he take it to extremes. But plenty don’t. The vast majority of British women are overweight which puts them at risk of heart disease, cancer, dementia, and God knows what else.

I'm sure there are a bunch of special snowflakes here who always resisted. Gold star for you. Yet, there is a whole industry built on this so you're just outliers (but good job!!!!!!)

What?

Of course plenty of people who have resisted treatments, always! Why the snide comment?

As for it being a reflection on feminism, nonsense. Women are entitled to choose what to do with their own bodies.

Is it true that women face unrealistic expectations around beauty and appearance? Sadly yes. But you are engaging in a lot of hyperbole.

You jumped the shark a bit early there with your women who don't have botox or facelifts or long hair are special snowflakes schtick.

Seriously though, I do hear what you are saying, patriarchy keeps us busy bothering with our appearance so that we don't have time to mobilise.

Age isn't a gift given to everyone! I'll be thrilled if I reach my grandfather's age, however I look.