To think if you're that fond/proud of your national flag, you should probably know which way up it goes?

I'm not sure how that would work. Do people make a claim for asylum in the UK, then are given safe passage to the UK while their claim is processed? Or does the UK have various processing centres and people's cases are determined there? We already take refugees from approved schemes eg Ukraine, Hong Kong and Afghanistan.

Or perhaps we should be offering asylum seekers safe routes into the country BEFORE they claim asylum??? Why is no one talking about that? That would eradicate these dangerous journeys altogether, surely?

Yes what evidence?

Have you not noticed what is happening in the EU? It is collapsing from the inside. We were right to leave a sinking ship before it was too late. We are in a much better position to rebuild our nation than other European countries will be when the s**t hits the fan because we made the right decision on 2016.

But I thought your lot were going to put everything right long before Reform gets into power. Or were those just lies to get the votes?

What you seem to be saying is that you didn't really read my post but took umbrage because I pointed out that you were wrong. You don't care why you were wrong and have learned nothing from the exercise and would do it all over again. I said 'willfully ignorant.' Thank you for providing such a good example.

“Exercise in ignorance” That’s just a clever way of calling someone think. Call a spade a spade why don’t you? I prefer to be insulted in plain English. After all I’m too ignorant to understand subtlety.

Thought you’d say that. What was it then?“unintelligent” “deluded” “misguided”? I can’t remember. But it’s all the same to me. These are insults that suggest I didn’t know what I was doing when I voted Brexit. I did. And I’ll be proved right in the next few years.

Well it soon won’t matter. If the SNP get their way there wont be white stripes to worry about.

Well it’s certainly not happening under Labour.

That’s it, thank you!

I was taught to remember it by the phrase "wide white, top left", "wide white" being the diagonal stripe and left being the side that's next to the flagpole.

Areas that have been targeted include : Newcastle, Tynemouth, Redditch, Worcester, York, Bradford, Birmingham, Warwick, parts of London (I'm not sure on which parts). Some of these are areas with relatively (for the UK) high numbers of long-standing ie 3rd even 4th generation settled former immigrant populations eg Bradford, Birmingham, others are areas close to where Reform is popular eg Newcastle, Tynemouth.

I'm in Sussex and the local paper reported that flags had been put up along the coast road between Brighton and Seaford. Brighton & Hove council announced that they would be taking them down, but last night a couple of local news sites said that the contractors had had to stop removing them, because they were getting abuse from people.

East Sussex County Council haven't said whether they'll be removing them or not, afaik. Demographically, Brighton & Hove is almost bang on the national average for ethnic diversity (74% white) but East Sussex is overwhelmingly white (95% iirc).

I just hope that they're securely tied on. That road gets very windy, and no-one would want a flag blowing onto their windscreen while they're driving.

The sunlit uplands will come?

what do we do in the meantime as our standard of living and health indicators reduce?

can you let me know how to identify when those sunlit uplands come? What will GB society look like?
What features will it have?

I'm so glad to see this mentioned, @iwishihadaname . I've been resisting pointing it out on the other flag thread for fear of being accused of pedantry!

My ex-RN DF used to get enraged by anyone referring to incorrectly, so it was dinned into me from an early age.

You could say the same about the Ukrainians.

Say what, now? 😁

Your post totally misses the point.

That's not what other people are saying 😂
https://www.desmog.com/2025/07/13/nigel-farage-clacton-house-of-commons/

https://leftfootforward.org/2025/07/hes-nowhere-to-be-seen-clacton-residents-react-to-nigel-farages-first-year-as-mp/

Desperate to leave several safe countries and come to the UK where it's much easier to work illegally and no one checks your identity. They are mostly fit young men who, as a group, are more likely to take risks.

Farage will give that to you good luck with that dream.

The super wealthy were buying farmland because of the tax loop hole. They kept their wealth. The land was not being used to farm that was the problem.

So what IS the right way for a Union Flag/Jack to go? I seem to recall having been told when I was in the Brownies about a hundred years ago. Something to do with the broad or narrow white bit of the St Patrick flag being at the top left, or not.

We had to draw and colour one, IIRC.

Absolutely, they must have been absolutely desperate as are the people getting into unsafe boats. I did have some sympathy for the driver's situation unfortunately, he was too narrow minded to see that it had nothing to do with Brexit.

It went up after Brexit and I still bought my food and olive oil. The super wealthy buying the farm are not farming.

The wealthy own significant amounts of farmland for various reasons, including wealth preservation, portfolio diversification, and as a way to avoid inheritance tax. High-net-worth individuals and institutions are increasingly dominating the farmland market, driving up land prices and potentially pricing out traditional agricultural buyers. This trend of the rich buying farmland is observed in the US, UK, and other countries, with figures like Bill Gates and wealthy investors from other industries all purchasing large tracts of land for investment and other benefits.

https://eastangliabylines.co.uk/farming/the-super-rich-are-hoovering-up-norfolk-land/#:~:text=The%20tax%20issue,the%20amount%20of%20land%20owned.