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If your dog is aggressive, bloody muzzle them!!

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Willprobablycauseoffence · 21/08/2025 07:23

This is not an anti dog thread - but a ‘people are fucking stupid’ thread.

I just watched a grown man be dragged to the ground in the middle of a sodding A road by his aggressive, out of control, dog. Both were nearly hit by a car. The dog was lunging, snapping and snarling at another dog who was just walking along the pavement on the opposite side minding its own business.

The aggressive dog was doing all it could to get to this dog and pulled the owner over as a result. I hate to think what would have happened if the lead had been tugged out of his hand or the dog slipped its collar. The innocent dog almost certainly would have been horrifically injured. It was luck the owner didn’t let the lead go as he fell, not skill.

why the hell do people with aggressive dogs not muzzle them?! I don’t care if your dogs a bloody chihuahua or a Cane Corso. As someone left with a permanent scar as the result of a pug attacking her, I am so sick of any dog owner with an aggressive dog just blithely carrying on! Don’t say ‘my dogs little so it’s fine,’ because if your dog is aggressive - to cats, dogs, children etc, you should bloody muzzle it!!!

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Instructions · 29/08/2025 15:31

If your dog is aggressive then train it to be otherwise. If it can't be trained put it down.

Theunamedcat · 29/08/2025 15:25

deerz · 28/08/2025 20:11

yes and she probably had enormous amounts of stress being perfect to manage that dog so it couldn't bite again. honestly owning a dog like that is extremely life limiting....it's the modern day taboo... not speaking about vicious dogs and their impact on their owners and the general public. not liking dogs in general is a separate issue. vicious out of control dogs of all breed types (but mostly with bully/herding/guarding blood) should be spoken about at length to raise awareness and not shutdown by fuzzywuzzycockapoopoo owners who ignore their own dogs rubbish behaviour

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To be clear he only bit once and it was her other dog she wasn't limited by her choice to keep him he was securely in kennels with people who knew his history when she had to go somewhere she was under no illusion he was a perfect dog also after she passed he was pts he was her last dog and she hoped to outlive him

CoubousAndTourmaIet · 28/08/2025 20:59

It's hard I know @Daimonion , when they're fluffy and squishy and cute. It's lovely when people want to cuddle them, but it can take a while for a pup to get the idea that not everyone finds them irresistible.

VaseofViolets · 28/08/2025 20:59

deerz · 28/08/2025 20:11

yes and she probably had enormous amounts of stress being perfect to manage that dog so it couldn't bite again. honestly owning a dog like that is extremely life limiting....it's the modern day taboo... not speaking about vicious dogs and their impact on their owners and the general public. not liking dogs in general is a separate issue. vicious out of control dogs of all breed types (but mostly with bully/herding/guarding blood) should be spoken about at length to raise awareness and not shutdown by fuzzywuzzycockapoopoo owners who ignore their own dogs rubbish behaviour

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I thought owning a dog was supposed to be a pleasure, not a chore. Why would anyone chose to have one of these unpleasant animals that limits their lives? If I couldn’t take it out in public without being nervous about its behaviour around other people and animals I’d have it PTS. Seems a better option all around.

Daimonion · 28/08/2025 20:33

CoubousAndTourmaIet · 28/08/2025 20:31

This is bullshit! If you walked past me with my pup you would hear me say "good girl" because that's been part of her lead training. When she walks past a person or a dog without pulling towards them I will tell her good girl. Nothing to do with being reactive, because she isn't, she's a big friendly pup who wants to say hi. But because so many people fear dogs now I can no longer let her do that unless it's someone she knows. So when she calmly walks past on a nice loose lead I will tell her "good girl" because she is. That is part of teaching a puppy to have good manners around people.

This.
I have been told off by puppy owners though when their puppy bounds up to me and I encourage them because I want to say hi too. So soft, excited and rubbery. I love meeting puppies, but also need to acknowledge that the pup also needs to learn manners.

CoubousAndTourmaIet · 28/08/2025 20:31

deerz · 28/08/2025 19:34

goodness forbid anyone even suggest behavioural euthanasia. why does no one take responsibility these days. A dog being aggressive outside of the home is almost certainly biting the sh*t out of it's owner and family, they just aren't telling you about it. there's an absolute epidemic of vicious dogs. if you walk past a dog owner who's frantically and very seriously saying good boy or good girl to their shtbeast when all it's doing is walking past you , you almost certainly are in danger of getting bitten by it. reactive dogs are a dangerous epidemic. most cannot be cured.

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This is bullshit! If you walked past me with my pup you would hear me say "good girl" because that's been part of her lead training. When she walks past a person or a dog without pulling towards them I will tell her good girl. Nothing to do with being reactive, because she isn't, she's a big friendly pup who wants to say hi. But because so many people fear dogs now I can no longer let her do that unless it's someone she knows. So when she calmly walks past on a nice loose lead I will tell her "good girl" because she is. That is part of teaching a puppy to have good manners around people.

deerz · 28/08/2025 20:11

Theunamedcat · 28/08/2025 20:03

My aunt's dog bit another dog she muzzled that dog religiously after that it was her choice not to euthanise him but he lived on borrowed time

yes and she probably had enormous amounts of stress being perfect to manage that dog so it couldn't bite again. honestly owning a dog like that is extremely life limiting....it's the modern day taboo... not speaking about vicious dogs and their impact on their owners and the general public. not liking dogs in general is a separate issue. vicious out of control dogs of all breed types (but mostly with bully/herding/guarding blood) should be spoken about at length to raise awareness and not shutdown by fuzzywuzzycockapoopoo owners who ignore their own dogs rubbish behaviour

Daimonion · 28/08/2025 20:05

deerz · 28/08/2025 20:01

well she may die before she gets the chance to bite you then

ODFOD

Theunamedcat · 28/08/2025 20:03

My aunt's dog bit another dog she muzzled that dog religiously after that it was her choice not to euthanise him but he lived on borrowed time

deerz · 28/08/2025 20:01

Daimonion · 28/08/2025 19:51

And you know that how? I have had her for nearly 15 years.

well she may die before she gets the chance to bite you then

deerz · 28/08/2025 19:59

JohnofWessex · 28/08/2025 19:53

I hope these incidents are all reported to the police

If nothing else it adds to the pressure for proper dog control legislation and enforcement

It's a pity that some of the owners don't get muzzled and neutered

yep me too! the more reports the more will be done. people shouldn't stay quiet about these dogs.

JohnofWessex · 28/08/2025 19:53

I hope these incidents are all reported to the police

If nothing else it adds to the pressure for proper dog control legislation and enforcement

It's a pity that some of the owners don't get muzzled and neutered

vodkaredbullgirl · 28/08/2025 19:52

deerz · 28/08/2025 19:46

are you? as you seem to be following my every post and commenting. how are you and your stinkfuzzies

They both fine thanks

Daimonion · 28/08/2025 19:51

deerz · 28/08/2025 19:47

one day she will prove you wrong

And you know that how? I have had her for nearly 15 years.

deerz · 28/08/2025 19:47

Daimonion · 28/08/2025 19:40

Not true. Some dogs are dog reactive. I know people who have dogs that are soppy at home, but can't deal with other dogs. So they walk them on lead when no one else is about, or hire private fields so they can have a proper run about.

My dog will curl her lip at small white dogs because she has been attacked by them in the past. She is fine with me at home.

one day she will prove you wrong

deerz · 28/08/2025 19:46

vodkaredbullgirl · 28/08/2025 19:36

Are you bored Deerz

are you? as you seem to be following my every post and commenting. how are you and your stinkfuzzies

deerz · 28/08/2025 19:45

Serendipetty · 21/08/2025 19:02

My huge dog will protect me from anything and anyone if it comes to it. I live alone and have been attacked walking about enough times, I have also had someone try to get into my house in the middle of the night-that's why.

no excuse to have a vicious dog. is yours a proper close protection dog with actual commands for attack and off ? no? then you own a dangerous dog with no actual purpose or proper control.

Daimonion · 28/08/2025 19:40

deerz · 28/08/2025 19:34

goodness forbid anyone even suggest behavioural euthanasia. why does no one take responsibility these days. A dog being aggressive outside of the home is almost certainly biting the sh*t out of it's owner and family, they just aren't telling you about it. there's an absolute epidemic of vicious dogs. if you walk past a dog owner who's frantically and very seriously saying good boy or good girl to their shtbeast when all it's doing is walking past you , you almost certainly are in danger of getting bitten by it. reactive dogs are a dangerous epidemic. most cannot be cured.

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Not true. Some dogs are dog reactive. I know people who have dogs that are soppy at home, but can't deal with other dogs. So they walk them on lead when no one else is about, or hire private fields so they can have a proper run about.

My dog will curl her lip at small white dogs because she has been attacked by them in the past. She is fine with me at home.

deerz · 28/08/2025 19:37

Toddlerteaplease · 21/08/2025 10:15

“Snarling people have snarling dogs.” Sherlock Holmes.

not necessarily , some people are lied tobby rescues and end up with these can't be fixed dogs. see losing lulu on Facebook

vodkaredbullgirl · 28/08/2025 19:36

Are you bored Deerz

deerz · 28/08/2025 19:34

goodness forbid anyone even suggest behavioural euthanasia. why does no one take responsibility these days. A dog being aggressive outside of the home is almost certainly biting the sh*t out of it's owner and family, they just aren't telling you about it. there's an absolute epidemic of vicious dogs. if you walk past a dog owner who's frantically and very seriously saying good boy or good girl to their shtbeast when all it's doing is walking past you , you almost certainly are in danger of getting bitten by it. reactive dogs are a dangerous epidemic. most cannot be cured.

Heyhelga · 22/08/2025 08:00

I personally think all dogs should be put on a muzzle when out in public spaces, but that's just my opinion.

Serendipetty · 22/08/2025 07:52

WishSheWouldGoAway · 21/08/2025 19:04

Well, you're extremely statistically unlucky, if you ve been attacked just walking about several times and need a large, dangerous animal to defend you.

I live in london and have walked about late at night alone.So many times I ve lost count, and i've never been attacked.

That's good for you, congratulations.

Serendipetty · 22/08/2025 07:52

Arsed · 21/08/2025 19:30

Where the hell do you live?

I'm unsure what that has to do with anything?

CoubousAndTourmaIet · 21/08/2025 19:48

I have a livestock protection dog breed like the ones on the documentary you mention @BlueCupOrangeCup but I totally agree with you that they're not a dog for everyone. They can and do make amazing house pets, but you need to have 100% commitment to keep a 60kg dog in your home. I've had them nearly 50 years, wouldn't have anything else. None of mine (and I've had 8) has ever been aggressive in the least, all totally safe and trustworthy around children, dogs and cats. I'm 61, female and slender. I'm very gentle with my dogs and they've always been very gentle with me. Mutual trust and respect is everything with these dogs.

But it's not just people with big dogs that should be realistic about the breeds they get. The OP mentions injury from a pug. There is a pug near us that should be muzzled, so too a local dachshund that attacks everything in its path. The owners are in denial because the dog is tiny. One of my dogs was attacked and injured by a Labrador when he was a tiny pup, my previous male was bitten by a Border Collie. It's not always the breeds you expect that turn out to be biters. Any dog can be a problem dog, but as OP says, the owners need to accept responsibility and take precautions. And some people just won't.

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