To call out a man for barging into me?

He punched your teenage son??!!

What the hell happened next? Surely police? And this man would have been caught on extensive station cctv surely @VaseofViolets

Just odd

I can understand being annoyed and upset. However, I wouldn’t have called after him, purely because I wouldn’t trust him not to escalate things, sadly.

My mum actually did this on a train - she was knocked in the back by a man’s suitcase when he was trying and failing to heave it up onto the overhead rack. She asked him to stop - his response was to immediately get aggressive, and instead of going for the middle-aged woman, he decided to punch my teenage son instead 😢

And to be honest, I was furious with her. She does feel the need to ‘call people out’ on their bad behaviour but never stops to think what could happen if that person is a nasty piece of work who’ll get violent. Sometimes it just isn’t worth it. I know the man was in the wrong, but my son ended up getting assaulted, and was it really worth it? That could have been your son. You just don’t know…

I clicked on the thread to see if this had been mentioned. I’d vaguely remembered a friend, who had lived in Japan, who told me something about this. Then last year I’m certain it happened to me, because the man was walking so quickly and it seemed like he barged into me with unnecessary force. He didn’t slow down or look at me at all afterwards.

I’m afraid I was still processing it and was too shocked to shout anything. It needs calling out though, that sort of thing.

Re: the “patriarchy chicken” game - if two people are walking on a path that is going to result in them colliding, one of them needs to divert, don’t they? Why should it always be the man? Or are we saying that both should swerve a bit equally?

There’s nothing passive or aggressive about clearly saying to someone who has been rude that they are rude. In fact it’s the opposite of both passive AND aggressive.

Whats the issue?
You cant suggest any common reasons aa to why a person would pick the person in the 2 examples?

Oh that is gross you poor thing

Bizarre

So choice between

Middle aged woman or
Teen age girl

And
Middle age woman or
Teen age boy

And you cant work out any common risk factor which an individual may have taken account of before engaging physical assault ?

I was shoved by a large man with a belly going into the school hall for an event. I am slow because I have mobility issues but for some reason he thought the answer was to make bodily contact with his belly and shove me along to make me faster. Unbelievable.

Absolutely

Sure… registered briefly in the same way as if he’d bumped into an inanimate object of no importance.

when I was leaving the oasis concert a couple of weeks ago, I was shoved over going up the stairs at the end. Obviously it was v crowded but it was a proper shove - hands on my shoulder blades from behind. I sort of sprawled on my hands and knees but as we were going up the stairs just got up again - it wasn’t a big fall. But I turned round to see it was the man who’d been in front of us during the gig. He’d been with his teenage boys and we’d been interacting during the concert - he took a photo for us etc. I said “oh my god” because I was genuinely shocked and he was really apologetic. But it definitely wasn’t accidental. I found it so weird that he was a nice dad who thought it was okay to shove an unfamiliar woman, but not a familiar one.

Ooo good idea. Could have many stickers. I have a tiny penis. Etc

You need pre-printed sticky notes that read "I am a massive twat". You catch up to him, give him a friendly tap on the back to apply sticker and then tell him you think he dropped something. Point randomly towards pavement. Then walk away knowing the massive twat (now labelled) is grovelling around on the floor.

For sure- my young adult daughters say the same thing. They are now not moving out of the way. A good thing is to slightly angle the shoulder forwards- it makes it more uncomfortable for the person slamming into you having a pointy shoulder pushed into them and also means that you are not taking the impact full on.
i tend to move out of the way just because i don’t want to be touched by strangers!

No idea. It was a 50/50 of either.

My 13 year old daughter was barged out the way by a middle aged woman the other day. We looked at one another and said “Rude!”
in unison and laughed!

OP, I did this once too. The man barged me out of the way, whacking me with his large backpack and I saw red. I went after him and asked him why he thought that was acceptable and the wanker saidI was in the way and 'there was no space'. There was definitely space. I asked him why he couldn't use his words an say 'excuse me please' and just he huffed and puffed and insinuated I were a harridon.

Would the tosser have done that to a 6'3 man? I bloody well doubt it!

Why do you think of the 2 people he could have hit he picked the middle aged woman and not the male teen?

am I in danger of being hit over the back of the head by the woman or the young male who was beside her

I would wager this wouldn’t have even remotely entered his thought process.

Nope

I think that he goes through life barging. Whether in person or in his car.

And if he heard a woman, any woman, shouting - if his tiny brain registered it… he’d think “typical silly woman on her period / going through the change”

Honestly I don’t think you were rude. I wouldn’t have been able to contain my anger. If he knew he did it and didn’t say sorry I would have made sure he felt shit about himself for the rest of the day. Ugly? Thanks for barging me you ugly twat. Fat - thanks for barging me you fat cunt! Not joking, don’t bother commenting on my comment if you’re not the OP I won’t read it and don’t care. Men are shit heads that think we can be barged into without as much as a sorry, no fucking thank you. And my teenage son would have stuck up for me if the man had a problem with my shouting / calling him out.

So you think the woman he hit is the only woman near him and he hears her shouting and his brain (not even the crocodile part) did not go " am I in danger of being hit over the back of the head by the woman or the young male who was beside her" rather his brain ignored the event or his brain when "nothing to see here silly woman" ?

Oh sure

but no doubt happens all the time and he just charged on oblivious and in a hurry and didnt think for a nano second that a woman shouting behind him had anything to do with him or if it did he no doubt thought “oh I bet the silly woman is in her period”